My Problem with the community as a Theorycrafter/Guide maker

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they made fun of my Leap Slam/Heavy STrike Glass staff marauder, and I'm dead serious here.
It's viable, I kill stuff like a pro with it :(
Burn all the orbs!
Last edited by skuadak on Sep 3, 2015, 4:22:18 AM
Seriously, you should be happy your build didn't become massively popular, the daily spam of amazingly stupid questions is overwhelming :D
The Wheel of Nerfs turns, and builds come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the build that gave it birth comes again.
Last edited by Bars on Sep 3, 2015, 4:36:11 AM
I actually had a rather lengthy post planned for reply,but in the end I'm just going to say good on you Slayertip1 and keep on keeping on.

=)







i also consider myself a theory builder.

i wrote some builds, some of them nice and some are kind of terrible, but i love the theory more than playing!
usually when i finish a build, and it successful one, i just getting boared of that build after doing 100 maps, and thats it, back to another build theory crafting.

some of my builds:
the Flash: (kind of great build in clear speed and coolness)
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1367774

the whispering hole: (terrible build, wanted to test the mechanics)
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1398994/page/1

and another really strong build i did, is the oro's bridle build:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1409823

none of this build got more than a few comments, i would love more comments and more feedback, but you get what you get, this is life :)


i would love to get link to your builds (went on few of your pages and didnt see them), maybe i can learn some stuff from them.

also as fellow theory crafter i would love to get some uniq builds ideas u saw. i ofcourse would name ghudda (he's just crazy), strangecloud (Sustainable Perpetual Auto Caster build, and also shatterbolt build) , and PepprmintButler (kamikaza clones build) as the most uniq builds concepts i saw. if you know on any other, or if you want some feedback on ideas, i would love to help :) ( and also can ask you for advices, have already another crazy build idea).
my builds:
- COLB (Cast On Last Breath) first ever build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1632595
- the Flash: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1367774
- the oro's bridle build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1409823
I'm totally late to this party. But Charan got it right. Almost right. I've gotten positive feedback, just not a LOT of it. Not unexpected, since I don't go for any of the flashy guide promotion stuff - I just post things that work.

Of the 7 characters I've leveled since Awakening, one has been posted, one's pending some optimisation and then probably posted, the others aren't worth writing. Either because it doesn't work well enough, or because someone else has already done it better. I have at least as many ideas in mind to be made, and I think most of them won't be worth writing either, but that's not why I do it.

Now, I think I'll talk about the people who don't exercise much of a voice in these discussions. Pick a basic idea (often one that's known to work, but I've also seen some wacko ones), use expertise born of long experience to make everything else fall into place, never publish anything despite their builds working better than any guide out there. Not even kidding, this describes easily half of my guild's active players, as well as most of the ingame friends I actually talk to.

There's a whole level of community out there which simply doesn't need to netdeck anything. They can make (relatively) budget builds, often using interesting mechanics, with scary ridiculous DPS when optimised, without guides for reference. I have no idea why they talk to me, but I'm more than happy to take advantage of their expertise!
How to make a build: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/510084
Current guides: N/A
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Kirielis wrote:

Now, I think I'll talk about the people who don't exercise much of a voice in these discussions. Pick a basic idea (often one that's known to work, but I've also seen some wacko ones), use expertise born of long experience to make everything else fall into place, never publish anything despite their builds working better than any guide out there. Not even kidding, this describes easily half of my guild's active players, as well as most of the ingame friends I actually talk to.


Yep, as I said - with some exceptions, most popular guides are weak. Their strongest point is usually the marketing. Made the mistake of following a massively popular incinerate guide in warbands, meh. Built something which deals more damage and is tougher at a fraction of the cost.

That's when the game actually becomes truly insteresting, when you stop reading guides and start exploring builds for yourself. Of course, it requires knowledge and experience, without them it's much better to follow a guide.
The Wheel of Nerfs turns, and builds come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the build that gave it birth comes again.
Last edited by Bars on Sep 3, 2015, 5:43:37 AM
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The_x_ile wrote:
i also consider myself a theory builder.

i wrote some builds, some of them nice and some are kind of terrible, but i love the theory more than playing!
usually when i finish a build, and it successful one, i just getting boared of that build after doing 100 maps, and thats it, back to another build theory crafting.

some of my builds:
the Flash: (kind of great build in clear speed and coolness)
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1367774

the whispering hole: (terrible build, wanted to test the mechanics)
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1398994/page/1

and another really strong build i did, is the oro's bridle build:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1409823

none of this build got more than a few comments, i would love more comments and more feedback, but you get what you get, this is life :)


i would love to get link to your builds (went on few of your pages and didnt see them), maybe i can learn some stuff from them.

also as fellow theory crafter i would love to get some uniq builds ideas u saw. i ofcourse would name ghudda (he's just crazy), strangecloud (Sustainable Perpetual Auto Caster build, and also shatterbolt build) , and PepprmintButler (kamikaza clones build) as the most uniq builds concepts i saw. if you know on any other, or if you want some feedback on ideas, i would love to help :) ( and also can ask you for advices, have already another crazy build idea).


Ive only made 2 2.0 build guides, i can post them below :)

The Bloodlusting Marauder
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1366333

Dont mind the video, its very amateurish of me :P

Scion Ice Crash MF w/ Sword crit and Cameria's Maul
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1415549

Video will be added on the weekend.
Twitch: twitch.tv/slayertip

Helping people with their builds, its somewhat a hobby, and a passion of mine, so don't be shy!

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1715639 <--- Build help forums thread thingy.
I would like to sincerely apologise if i don't reply to everyones comments, or if i dont talk alot from here on in, im getting a bit tired, so, if i lack replies, ill get back to you ASAP!
Twitch: twitch.tv/slayertip

Helping people with their builds, its somewhat a hobby, and a passion of mine, so don't be shy!

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1715639 <--- Build help forums thread thingy.
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I've heard it enough from Reddit, "Oh your builds don't make sense, it sucks, it lacks this, it lacks that"


Reddit lol...


If you want to make build that will be noticed on reddit you have to: put catchy title, submit your video on good time of the day, have good miniature, make good video (not build, video).

Also how Reddit work don't make it good for discussions that take longer than 1 day and people often write what give karma points not what is good for discussion.



Want good theorycrafter? Visit "Gameplay Help and Discussion" on this forum. Less toxic and peopel actualy can discuss there without fear of being downvoted.
"Is there such a thing as an absolute, timeless enemy? There is no such thing, and never has been. And the reason
is that our enemies are human beings like us. They can only be our enemies in relative terms."
Last edited by kamil1210 on Sep 3, 2015, 6:13:23 AM
As OP passed out I will borrow thread for a min-

question to guys who did multiple builds: do you have any requirements for given level to consiver build works or not? Dunno, Atziri normal at 90 tops, with 1 6L or such? I'm not buildmaker myself, I just have diy ranger and marauder, but I don't really know how to compare them to general "sufficient build idea". (my guild desolated with 2.0. unforunately and I don't have social-build mirror tbh
Burn all the orbs!

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