For the people who price things at 0xcurrency...

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ZweihundertMorder wrote:

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xxSerpentlordxx wrote:

I am new to Poetrade. I have been messing with it for a few days. I Imported a bow to try it out. How exactly do I set a buyout price? Also, How do I list my IGN underneath as well?

you got it all wrong. Best check for a trading tutorial on youtube.

Just loaded up Ziggy D's procurement trade tutorial and turned it off after a few minutes. It really is overwhelming. I am not looking at making a career out of it. Is that what everyone is using?

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xxSerpentlordxx wrote:

I am new to Poetrade. I have been messing with it for a few days. I Imported a bow to try it out. How exactly do I set a buyout price? Also, How do I list my IGN underneath as well?

@xxSerpentlordxx

1. make thread in trading forum
2. post items you want to sell
3. put ~b/o 500 exa after item in thread
3. or put ~b/o 500 exa in spoiler name to make all items in spoiler wit hthe samy buyout.


more info with currency names and examples that you can simply copy-paste: http://poe.trade/tags.html

Thank you for the response. Do I still need to import the item data on Poexyz? I have a few more questions that might come up as I figure this out.

O.K. I got my item to show up on poexyz. The buyout appears.

How do I add in my in game char name under the item or is that even necessary?

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xxSerpentlordxx wrote:

Thank you for the response. Do I still need to import the item data on Poexyz? I have a few more questions that might come up as I figure this out.

O.K. I got my item to show up on poexyz. The buyout appears.

How do I add in my in game char name under the item or is that even necessary?

name will be added automaticaly like all items from trade forum, to be online you have to be in hiscore.

Establish Chamber of Commerce for PoE. Employ/recruit Advisors for aforementioned Chamber. Have Trade Legislation, enforce it, solve disputes as in IRL - lengthy processes with each party establishing newer and newer facts/arguments to protect their interest.

Or... require a mediator in trades, who will judge the offer from both sides.

Or... have encrypted values (from GGG of course) that give an electric shock to a person offering something far beyond its value.

Or... realize that PoE is anarchy itself, if you want to remain lore-friendly - some people use it to make ridiculous profits. In a world like Wraeclast, you will find assholes.

And then again, you may also realize that this is a question that will be disputed thousands of times, and will always have supporters from both sides without a true winner (US elections come to mind).

I always enjoy these discussions, but the fact is I am growing tired of the reformulation of ancient ideas, the same gathering much attention (wow), becoming a heated topic which is only addressed by the players. Which results in much aggro, no win.

I am aware that I have gone into extremes, but this is how I feel.

poe.trade shouldn't filter out items without buyouts if you set a buyout range. That way you can exclusively filter out items with buyout 0 by setting a minimum price of 1 Alteration. This way you won't also filter out ~half the rare items that otherwise meet search criteria and don't have buyouts for various reasons.

I only buy stuff with a buyout.
My default filter has a minimum buyout to weed out all the 0x currency listings.
Most of my interactions have been neutral or pleasant, probably because I just buy stuff with a fixed price.
What i'd really like is a client side blacklisting feature for the obvious flippers and price manipulators that list things at the lowest price but never respond to a whisper for purchasing even though they are online.

Just repeatedly offer one wisdom scroll offers until they black list you. After they come back with their outrageous price, inform them that you are overpaying, as they listed it for free. Continue to troll them and waste their time until you get bored...


Or just ignore them and do better things with your time, because they obviously aren't worth it.

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hayze420 wrote:

I do not set b/o's for any of my items, for multiple reasons. Mainly because I am too lazy and don't use any third party software like procurement and just link all my items for sale on my shop for people to browse through. Another reason is because I really like the barter system, I do not ask for people to offer only, if they ask how much I want for it, I typically respond why a price I have in mind, and if that sounds fair, then go from there.

I'm with this guy.

The value of items is constantly changing, I'm not going to research and re-evaluate the price of every rare item I have every week just to avoid "insulting" someone.

Fact is, if you are searching for a rare item on poe trade, *YOU* have a much better idea of what the item is worth because your looking at 50 other items with similar stats. Make a fair offer, and it'll get accepted. I'm not repeating the 5 mins or so of searching you just did (while mapping) to turn around and get a counter offer of 1c.

I mean, be honest. the reason people want a buyout is so they can pick the cheapest one. why get upset at the sellers who are doing the same thing in reverse? (or just lazy that's on both sides too).

Fact is this, all player markets and trades in the game are based on mutual agreements between two individuals. One agrees to buy at a certain price that he agrees to and another sells at a price that the buyer agrees and both players benefit individually as a result. Now many players, myself included set buyouts for our items to let buyers know this is the price we want and we are not looking to negotiate, anyone who agrees to our buyout can buy our item. Other players, they would rather negotiate a price, so they do not set a buyout. It is wrong to think of these players only as exploiters, cause we must remember that any trade is a result of mutual agreement in price between a buyer and a seller. They both must agree on a price for any trade to be completed.

Negotiation has value, it allows for a player who doesn't know the value of what his item should go for on the market, to find a price that both parties can agree with and can both benefit from. In any negotiation, a player has an equal chance of selling for too low and underpricing, which gives a deal to the buyer, as he does of selling too high and overpricing, giving a deal to himself. But if a price is too high for an item, no deal can ever be made, if a player noticing no one accepts his price he negotiates for enough times, then he realizes his price is too high and he negotiates for a lower price until his item is sold. Now, if the player does happen to find a buyer for an item that he was negotiated a high price, then then buyer only agreed to buy at such a high price because it was beneficial for him to do so in some way. Maybe there was only one seller of such an item online and the buyer made a choice not to wait for another seller, or maybe he didn't mind paying overprice because the item was so good for his build, that he knew he would earn his currency back quickly. Even though I use buyouts because it is convenient and beneficial for me to do so, I still find it is wrong to demonize players as exploiters or oppressors, those who do not use buyouts and prefer negotiation, since no trade can ever be successful without the mutual benefit of both players agreeing upon a certain price.