Feedback Request: Tempest League

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Alibi wrote:

SWAP WARBANDS WITH TEMPEST.
THATS WHAT ALL PLAYERS REALLY WANT THIS LEAGUE.
no more words neeeded.

This.

-Boring
-Boring
-Boring
-And even more boring.

Sorry but cant be serious with this.. i expected more

4600 hp at lvl 64
capped res
and -30 chaos res one shot by an arctic breath converted to 100% chaos

Didn't even have a chance to see it coming... Just opened the door in upper scepter and died to ONE arctic breath


I completely agree that one shots should definitely be allowed in a game which allows for instant log outs, but this abyssal tempest makes it so that any monster can potentially one shot you WITHOUT A TELEGRAPH. Plus if it is a place like the scepter of god (dark rooms and doors). Then you really have no chance to see what monsters have what buffs, let alone even being able to tell if they are in the room you are about to enter in the first place.


When you're leveling and progressing through the difficulties its hard enough to get capped res let alone having to worry about that extent of chaos damage

Wheres the balance?

Please turn tempests off in mandatory boss rooms.

Right now normal Kaom's realm is in the fire buff tempest. I fought him because I am INCREDIBLY stupid. I still won, but it was a difficult thing. In Tempest's current state I will flat refuse to do any other orange bosses when a buff tempest is on the zone. It's too dangerous.

Right now Daresso's zone in a Restorative Tempest, and he is effectively immortal. I get him down to 15%, he activates maximum damage form in the middle of a pink tempest, and then he's back to 80% and running max speed. He jumps around a lot and doesn't respond to knockback, so you don't really have any means to stop him from geting healed.

My character's progression is effectively impossible until the storms reset. That really sucks.

Here is my 2 cents.

Are the Tempests impactful?
YES HEY IMPACT MY ENJOYMENT OF THE GAME IN A BAD WAY
Are they scary?
SCARY NO, ANNOYING YES.
Do the ones that affect items feel rewarding?
NOT. I AVOID TEMPEST AREAS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
Are they better at higher or lower levels?
I AM GIVING UP ON THIS LEAGUE AND REVERTING BACK TO REGULAR HC
Do people share information about what Tempests are running right now?
NO
Did you play Tempest because you thought it was more interesting than Warbands?
PLAYED WARBANDS BY MISTAKE BELIEVING IT WAS THE HC LEAGUE. I ONLY PLAY HC.

Did you play Warbands when you normally would have played Tempest?
READ ABOVE.

Why does it feel like rocket science to you at GGG to just run an ordinary no crap HC ladder with an economy reset? Especially when we were so hyped about the 2.0. Why are we here talkig about crappy league stuff when we should be talking about the Awakening and all the revamping that has been done? Or maybe that is what this is al about in the end.

Smoke mine????? Are we just this easy to blind?

Here is my 2 cents.

Are the Tempests impactful?
YES HEY IMPACT MY ENJOYMENT OF THE GAME IN A BAD WAY
Are they scary?
SCARY NO, ANNOYING YES.
Do the ones that affect items feel rewarding?
NOT. I AVOID TEMPEST AREAS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
Are they better at higher or lower levels?
I AM GIVING UP ON THIS LEAGUE AND REVERTING BACK TO REGULAR HC
Do people share information about what Tempests are running right now?
NO
Did you play Tempest because you thought it was more interesting than Warbands?
PLAYED WARBANDS BY MISTAKE BELIEVING IT WAS THE HC LEAGUE. I ONLY PLAY HC.

Did you play Warbands when you normally would have played Tempest?
READ ABOVE.

Why does it feel like rocket science to you at GGG to just run an ordinary no crap HC ladder with an economy reset? Especially when we were so hyped about the 2.0. Why are we here talkig about crappy league stuff when we should be talking about the Awakening and all the revamping that has been done? Or maybe that is what this is al about in the end.

Smoke mine????? Are we just this easy to blind? Epic fail on my behalf... back to regular HC... too bad for the ladder.

That makes 4 cents.

Please remove chilled ground feature from the cold tempest. Not challenging just an unfun mechanic.

From one that got bored even before completing normal, since Tempest was just not for me:

Are the Tempests impactful?
- I ignore them most of the time. Why? Have to stand still in an AoE before applying a buff, whipdyfuckingwoo, skip that shit.
- Restorative..? Cute, any boss (Voll as an example) that has an attack delay is now a forced reroll zone if you don't have stupid damage. So much fun, NOT.
- Item now drops as their sell-price -> Had to AVOID killing stuff while the monsters and I were under the effect, are you kidding me.

Are they scary?
- Freeze you in place, ohanother freeze you in place, I'm having so much fun not playing the game.
I eventually ran out of flask charges for removal of freeze/chill.
- All hits are now guaranteed crits, another Resolute Technique doesn't exist.
Also monsters feel overtuned if they're ranged.

Do the ones that affect items feel rewarding?
- See "item now drops as their sell price" - More annoying than actually rewarding, sure I didn't have to go back to town, but when I saw Alch Shards drop, I were a tad annoyed.

Are they better at higher or lower levels?
- As I stated, in Normal difficulty you literally just ignore them because they bring little to nothing than annoyance.

Did you play Tempest because you thought it was more interesting than Warbands?
- I play Hardcore because I like the no inflation within a few days.
I however feel like playing Warband more than this dumpster league (sorry, but it's really not that great, I'd take Invasion over this, and I HATED Invasion).

Did you play Warbands when you normally would have played Tempest?
- Softcore leagues are not my thing, they sort of get out of hand in term of trading way too fast, and it's just not fun to play the flipping game, at least it's tuned down a tad in the HC leagues.

The Challenges:
>Full clear any area with said Tempest
Not even if I got paid.

Tempests finally left laser Piety's zone, so I made it to merciless. I just did the undead tempest in my first map. It was dropping a Vaal Summon Skeletons around me every 15-20 seconds, plus tons of other random things I had to deal with. My clear speed was at least cut in half and it felt horrible. At least there's a 10% quantity bonus now, but that's not remotely close to enough to make me deal with this garbage.

This league is terrible. It's not just that it's completely unrewarding, though it is. It's that it's horribly slow and completely unfun. Tempests impact the pace of the game in such an incredibly bad way.

Tempest sucks so much that I'm quitting the league after running my first map. I'll check back later to see if you've fixed this horrible mess you've made.

Some suggestions:

1. Make all mods rewarding in a way to match how dangerous or slow they are. That mod was garbage and it gave me nothing.

2. Make the tempests with big effects (Vaal Summon Skeletons) happen way less often. That was ridiculous. Vaal skills are a special thing. Vomiting them onto the screen upwards of 100 times while I run a map just makes them annoying.

3. Give us a list somewhere of which mods are on which maps. You experimented to see if you could force players to communicate constantly to find out which tempests are where. The experiment failed. I don't ever want to run terrible, slow, and unfun mods like the undead one, and I'm never running a map again if I might hit that garbage. I can't afford to throw rolled maps in the garbage just because you've made certain parts of the game as unfun as you possibly could.

4. I know you have your reasons for splitting the leagues between SC and HC, but they're not good enough. All you're doing is forcing people to play in leagues they don't want to play in because they only play HC or SC. Tempest sucks. Warbands is great. I don't want to play SC, so I guess I just quit playing POE for five months? This is dumb, and I can't imagine it's what you want your players to do, but it's the result of splitting the leagues like you've done.

It's not too late to fix this and add the leagues for both HC and SC. Please do this. Please let me keep playing POE. I'm pretty sure tempests are such a terrible and broken mechanic that you can't possibly fix them, though I'm sure you'll try seeing the massive amount of people who hate them.

Taking a break from clearing the map to stand in place for 5 seconds just so you can get a buff that lasts for 5 seconds, which will most likely be gone by the time you get to the next pack? Seriously, who thought that was a good idea? Ugh. What a joke league.