jewels discussion: bringing RNG and Economy to the Passive Tree
" If you make a game where every item is tradeable, you absolutely have to balance the game around that fact, else you get a game where everyone literally finishes their character in a week or so. Where's the fun in that? " These are only problems if you refuse to trade, or they were problems, GGG made PoE much more viable for self-found play over the past year or so. If you are willing to trade you won't have a problem with anything you mentioned. " Well, the BALANCE makes sure the game isn't too easy to finish. If everyone would steamroll through the game and acquire near-BiS in a week PoE wouldn't be fun and GGG would be dead. What the trade/economy itself brings to the game is in my last post. I'd also like to add that there are certain worst case scenarios with no trade (as in current D3), where for example say you want some high end unique but it literally never drops, ever. What do you do? You can't do shit. With trade you can at least, well, trade for it. You can work towards that item and after a couple of days of farming you get it. Feels quite rewarding to me. GGG banning all political discussion shortly after getting acquired by China is a weird coincidence.
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" The concept of raiding only works because of the fact that a) raid instances are time locked. Back when I played WoW you could do the big raids only once a week. This means you get a very small amount of items every week and it takes a long time to somewhat equip the whole raid. And b) raiding means you have 20+ people who have to work together and who need to get equipped. This means there is a lot of potential for fuck ups and you literally can't progress if say your tanks have shitty equip. So finally killing the boss after weeks of farming weaker bosses for gear and praying to god that guild leader's gf who is a healer doesn't fuck up feels quite rewarding. But essentially you are killing a dumb ass boss with simple ass mechanics where 90% of the difficulty is in the time gating mentioned under a). Everyone with a tiny bit of common sense realizes that this can't work in a game like PoE where you can farm bosses endlessly and can do it solo. There is no such thing as a solo PvE pure skill challenge that warrants you to get high ticket uniques. Maybe let us play a Touhou passage on Lunatic for a Shav's or something. GGG banning all political discussion shortly after getting acquired by China is a weird coincidence.
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" I am sorry, are you actually that deluded that you think that is all I did? You hold an indefensible position. That is why you won't attempt to defend it against me or BMBI. You are the one who could really learn how to express an argument. I did read the thread Johnny boy, and now I'm reading from page 7 on. I doubt you have managed a successful defense of your position from page 7 to page 11. I'll edit this when I confirm it one way or another. Edit: you tried. Keep PoE2 Difficult. Last edited by Fluffy_Puppies#3904 on Apr 16, 2015, 10:37:49 PM
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Ol johnny string the pot a little
good times lol I dont see any any key!
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" So shocked you "attempted" your very first defense in the thread. You are choosing to not trade and you still have that choice. You are happy playing with sub optimal gear to date, why are you so angry that you will have sub optimal gear now? I bet having any jewels will be stronger than no jewels. Your whole argument falls flat. "Wall Street" may be moving to town, but they aren't tearing down your fishing hut, they are simply building their mansions next to it. If you are unhappy living in your hut maybe it it time to change your bad attitude about a core aspect of PoE. Keep PoE2 Difficult.
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" "Who cares about inflation in a hack and slash game?" The answer is everyone who values what they have... I took a 5/6 month break from the game and my wealth was still intact, my hard work was all intact. The only thing I missed out on was divining my 9 spare CoD and LC chest armours to be worth more once they turned legacy. If I stopped playing Diablo 3 for 5/6 months before the removal of trade I would come back to find all my possessions are worthless and that I couldn't buy anything new. Keep PoE2 Difficult. Last edited by Fluffy_Puppies#3904 on Apr 16, 2015, 10:33:36 PM
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>trading in PoE
 GGG banning all political discussion shortly after getting acquired by China is a weird coincidence.
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" Haha, that isn't a trade fail though, it is an English fail, so the guy selling the item decided to troll the ESL dude. Keep PoE2 Difficult.
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I love almost every single thing about the new content. It is just something OP brought up that helped me realize with magic/rare/unique items soon to be applicable to the passive tree and subject to all kinds of conventional stuff (like looking for max rolls and crafting), RNG/luck/RMT will soon become decisive factors in how the community manages to construct future builds.
I generally don't mind trading, do it for most everything I haven't self-found for my char at the time. But having the passive tree become enslaved to the whims of RNG/trading/etc, isn't something I find appealing. It used to seem like the most stable aspect of building a character, as opposed to stuff like gear that you knew might be an issue to find exactly the right mods with; maybe not so anymore. Is this good or bad for PoE? (saying stuff like it was inevitable is simply a reflection of changing reality, not the expression of an opinion regarding said changes) For POE Devs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea6UuRTjkKs
Died like this in HC before: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVsgFUiD-Y8 u_u |
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Most jewels will be common as heck, 1c prices. Oh, you don't want to trade? Too bad. GGG can't stop their every idea, because some players don't want to play the way GGG designs the game. You need to find gear anyways, and even with the best passive skill tree in the world, you won't do anything without gear. AND jewels are OPTIONAL to the build.
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