Rain and Load Times

Yet my expertience says rain = lag/load times. Up to 1 min load times often resulting in disconnect. Unless i go to docks to preload rain before starting Courtyard. If i do multiple courtyards in a row, its nearly instant load time. Also while we are on the topic, please stop making all these ground effects like shocking etc, it hurts the eyes and lags alot. Or buy me a beast pc, like you have in the office.

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homdonau wrote:

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Morgoth2356 wrote:

That's one of the best "So you're saying [insert something the guy didn't say at all]" cases I have ever seen on these forums.

*slow applause*

I quote you what he say:

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MegaTen_IV wrote:
People should learn to not play on toasters in modern days of the year 2015 and start finally using SSD's.

You were quoting me by saying "so you're saying we casual players etc.", and now to prove your point when I say you were extrapolating big BS from what I've said, you're quoting someone else ? You're confused mate...

Just to remind you :

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homdonau wrote:

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morgoth2356 wrote:

I'm not telling people what they will spend their money on, I'm just saying that if you want to play video games on PC, you should expect to spend at least some money on your components. It's just common sense ! Gaming requires better than the basic specs that the majority of people use just to work on Microsoft Word and check vids on Youtube, nothing wrong with saying that. If you can't put at least some money on your PC, you should not expect to play recent games, that's all what I'm saying. The dude I was answering to said litteraly that we should take in consideration people that can't afford to put any money at all on their PC. And I'm just giving objective raw numbers : compared to what people usually put for their CPU and GPU, what you have to put to get an SSD now has gone down a lot. When I got my SSD 4 years ago it was going around 200€ for a 128gb one, it means the same price of a really decent gaming GPU/CPU. Now, it is third of that price (60-70€). That's all I said. Numbers.

You are saying that we filthy casual don't deserve to play this game?

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unsane69 wrote:

WTF is wrong with you people??

People are asking for an option to lower/disable particle effects, something which is more or less standard, and have been for years in pc games. And you want that option NOT implemented because you're not going to use it? What's it to you? Does the option being there somehow interfere with your gaming? How?

Yes, it takes away developers time they can spend on other stuff.
(With that being said I am usinga 3-year old pc and would welcome these changes but I can understand why some people wouldn't)

Since this game is free to play, many IRL poor people(like me) like to play it.
And that means people are playing with fairly old setups.

Maybe the best option for all would be that on/off switch on the menus?

My loading problems are mostly gone after i switched my GPU from HD4870--> GTX650.
Before that i bought cheap SSD, but that alone had way smaller effect that i had hoped.

Yes, FPS drops sometimes, usually when there are too much elemental effects around.

My specs:

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PyleWarlord wrote:

Since this game is free to play, many IRL poor people(like me) like to play it.
And that means people are playing with fairly old setups.

Maybe the best option for all would be that on/off switch on the menus?

My loading problems are mostly gone after i switched my GPU from HD4870--> GTX650.
Before that i bought cheap SSD, but that alone had way smaller effect that i had hoped.

Yes, FPS drops sometimes, usually when there are too much elemental effects around.

My specs:

Spoiler

Q6600, 8Gb ddr2, GTX650, A-Data SX900

So

They should stop making free game, that way people that play will have the money to buy a computer able to run games?

Nice logic

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Chris wrote:

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DestroTheGod wrote:

The cause, reasoning, what is going on, I have no idea. Maybe it's something specific to my system or having integrated graphics? I don't know. I've already gotten over this issue and just play around it (as I have had no choice).

The machine I tested on also has integrated graphics (Intel HD 5000).

ffs

The Intel HD Graphics 5000 (GT3) is a processor graphics card included in some of the ULV Haswell processors of 2013 (e.g. Core i5-4250U). It represents the highest configuration of the integrated graphics unit (40 execution units), but lacks the additional eDRAM cache of the Iris Pro Graphics 5200. The relatively low base clock can be automatically overclocked using Turbo Boost technology. Depending on the processor model, the base and


you run your tests on something that can eat particle effects fairly well

but not on something that doesn't.

there's your problem in your attempt to discover everyone's problem.

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Windy_Soliloquy wrote:

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Chris wrote:

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DestroTheGod wrote:

The cause, reasoning, what is going on, I have no idea. Maybe it's something specific to my system or having integrated graphics? I don't know. I've already gotten over this issue and just play around it (as I have had no choice).

The machine I tested on also has integrated graphics (Intel HD 5000).

ffs

The Intel HD Graphics 5000 (GT3) is a processor graphics card included in some of the ULV Haswell processors of 2013 (e.g. Core i5-4250U). It represents the highest configuration of the integrated graphics unit (40 execution units), but lacks the additional eDRAM cache of the Iris Pro Graphics 5200. The relatively low base clock can be automatically overclocked using Turbo Boost technology. Depending on the processor model, the base and


you run your tests on something that can eat particle effects fairly well

but not on something that doesn't.

there's your problem in your attempt to discover everyone's problem.

They didn't test particles effects and all that anyway, your rant is irrelevant here. They tested the load times of the zones. I'm pretty sure the GPU/integrated graphics has little to do with those.

I'm actually surprised the usual bullshit-spewing, straw-throwing "white-knights" appear to change account names and forum avatars now and then.
or are they the same people on multiple accounts?

nonetheless, here's a newsflash for you guys, if you are reading this:
you are not white knights of Path Of Exile.
you are black knights guarding a bridge so none shall pass.

this brilliant Monty Python tribute of a comparison, isn't mine. someone used it in a thread I once made about the technical state of the game and GGG's set of priorities.
the billionth thread I made, about the not-really-changing-and-actually-getting-worse technical state of the game, and GGG's "we don't give a fuck" set of priorities, to be exact.
I have to find the guy's name to give proper credit.

and no, I will not "upgrade my potato" just for Path Of Exile, no matter how much I care about this game, and believe me I do. more than you, apparently.
so dear Chris and team: fix the damn game, for crying out loud, and for at least two years worth of Beta and Release fuck's sake.
or at least make "intend to fix it" noises, like posting more threads like this one, then actually fucking doing something, and actually fucking writing about it in Patch Notes.

and please give us more tweaking options while you do.
thanks.

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Morgoth2356 wrote:

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HarukaTeno wrote:

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MegaTen_IV wrote:

People should learn to not play on toasters in modern days of the year 2015 and start finally using SSD's.

Breaking news! Not everyone can afford to spend a lot of money on the PC. Not to mention "to spend any money on the PC"

That argument is soooo outdated. SSD's are now very cheap, in EU you can get 128Go quality SSD's for around 60-70€, that's 70-80$. Compared to the total amount people have to spend for a decent gaming setup (mostly GPU and CPU), it is like nothing. When someone wants to play video games on a PC, he's expecting to spend at least around 150-200$ on the GPU and around the same amount for his CPU. An SSD is so cheap compared to those mandatory pieces now. And sorry, but someone that can't afford "to spend any money on the PC" should not expect to run recent games and blaming the devs because of that. It's like blaming Sony or Microsoft because you can't spend money to buy their consoles but you want to play PS4 or XBox One games, it's like that retarded, yes.

Outdated? Don't think so. Poverty wasn't defeated.
You should consider that not everyone lives in EU. Not everyone has a good job (not because he is stupid, but because there are NO good jobs in his country). For some people 80$ IS their monthly wage.

And you're not really different from MegaTen with your claims: "In EU", "80$ is nothing". You're both selfish. Ignorant. If not hateful ("mere casuals dare to ask something"). Even if your life is good, it doesn't give you (or him) rights to basically humiliate other people.

Notice that players didn't blame GGG (at first), most of those just asked (for years) to optimize those god damn particles.
Also, don't you think it's weird that people who has "good PC" are still saying that they have problem ONLY with PoE graphics and not any other "heavy" game like Battlefield4 and such?
Hint: ->because PoE graphics is unoptimized<-

For all the doomsayers like "AMD+ATI is bad":
I have aforementioned combination. I saw how the game engine and graphical component changed for 2+ years. I also used a lot of external "tweakers" to make PoE run better.

For now i achieved almost perfect playable (options) setup with low quality settings.
I stopped fps drops from Fire Trap\Ligtning Trap and Poison Arrow clouds, almost negated the stutterings which happen on strongbox opening.

But THE ONLY thing which is still insuperable for any LEGAL tweaking programs is the rain. "Heavily particled", unoptimized rain which causes a huge fps drop (and further fluctuations)

So please, please, please, can we have a small button to turn it off (or maybe just limit it somehow).
I, personally, had enough "game atmosphere immersion" for these 2+ years. Thank you.

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Kuruguhn wrote:

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PyleWarlord wrote:

Since this game is free to play, many IRL poor people(like me) like to play it.
And that means people are playing with fairly old setups.

Maybe the best option for all would be that on/off switch on the menus?

My loading problems are mostly gone after i switched my GPU from HD4870--> GTX650.
Before that i bought cheap SSD, but that alone had way smaller effect that i had hoped.

Yes, FPS drops sometimes, usually when there are too much elemental effects around.

My specs:

Spoiler

Q6600, 8Gb ddr2, GTX650, A-Data SX900

So

They should stop making free game, that way people that play will have the money to buy a computer able to run games?

Nice logic

Where, for the god's sake, did he say "GGG, stop making free game"??
Logic...

He (and i, btw) just wants 1 SMALL switch (which won't impact your gameplay AT ALL).
Is it so much to ask?