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CharanJaydemyr wrote:
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Shagsbeard wrote:
GGG is in the process of folding. It's clear to me, as I've seen other companies pretty much acting the same way. Pity.


I think it's slow enough a decay that we can't call it folding yet.

Act 4 will be their last chance to get back to stride though. Firmly believe that.


Then again, you know act 4 will not change the basics, the gameplay will be the same, the shortcommings the same, and they have no intention of reaching out for an audience in terms of droprate, crafting system or other. They also cannot improve their base engine. They can implement a trading system which can only be somewhat better than the current website one, but essentially the same, but that's about it.

I wouldn't call it folding either though, i haven't even seen what GGG have been cooking, like, they must have been doing something all this time with all the money we gave them.. We haven't seen a powermove from them yet. So, i really have my hopes up that they've been pursuing some vision all this time. They sometimes have small comments like "their ambitious plans", but i still didn't see any powermoves from them since the day i launched the beta for the first time and i'm still hoping for the fulfillment of those words.
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cryptc wrote:
It was designed to be used for low life without needing Shavs or Lorica, if you have a life pool big enough that ~35% is enough to keep you alive with enough chaos resistance. I have tried a summoner using it recently, and it's working moderately well (only sometimes hard to notice taking chaos damage)

The Cast on Death, which is the stat that catches the eye fastest is actually kind of deceptive. It's there to provide a bit of balance (along with the mana regen penalty), in that you can't put all kinds of gems in there. Note that when you die you are considered to be "low life", so the 20% bonus applies to Cast on Death from it.

I think it hit the balance point perfectly, seeing as it's kind of awkward to use for any of the more cookie cutter builds:

- CI builds have no use for it.
- Life builds suffer a penalty because there's no life on it.
- Low life gets a lot of mileage out of it, but considering how often Low life is used with wondertrap for magic finding, the lack of magic find on it also makes it less optimal.
- Summoners lose a slot for +2 minions.
- Mana regen penalty hits AA users, and makes it less interesting for EB users in general.
- Lorica users could still use it, but would likely do better with a high ES vaal regalia instead.
- Shavs is op no matter what, so doesn't count.

It's got some creative ways it can be used though, with the increased damage being without a type, and considering a lot of gems can not be supported by Cast on Death and can be used normally in it. I was happy to see that it got moderately popular with hybrid life/es builds, and that after the first gut reaction of "hate it!" died down on reddit, people generally feel it's an okay unique.


Thanks for the lengthy explanation! Makes much more sense to me now. Hoping it drops and I can take it out for a test spin myself :)

I have to say I've been incredibly impressed by the input in this thread so far. Not only from those who were supportive (and I thank those for their kind words), but even those with views contrary to the rest have been pretty constructive in their output.

I suppose it helped that everyone ultimately had some form of beef with GGG and the ire was targeted there. Even then, the negative feedback, I find, has been well constructed, explained and delivered with positive suggestions. And Chris' response to everyone's views has been superb, as always. And while it's true that not everything here will be adequately addressed, it feels to me that we got a relatively fair hearing (ok, me more so than the rest given chris was specifically addressing my issue, but it seemed like he was paying attention to the rest as well)

Despite the overall "you-could-have-done-better" vibe of the thread, it leaves me hope for the future of GGG and the forum community! :D Thanks for the great reads everyone!
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Vincendra wrote:
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cryptc wrote:

If all uniques were Shavs, no uniques would be Shavs.


Im not talking about "broken as fk". Chaos on ES is nearly NEEDED, even for Hybrid builds.

Im talking about "being useable". Your crown would have been okey with the drawback of the COD support gem alone. Its 4L which can not be used with cast gems properly.

It is a lowlife unique, but still not giving Life. It is not giving any resists. 1 Item alone makes me think about my build and if I can run anohter unique (which lack life or resist on most of them).

That thing costed me 2C and is 100% better then yours. Given it has no ES, but there are TONS of CHEAP ES only rares out there with a Life and Chaos roll. They are inherently cheap because ES goes well if rolled high, without life and chaos resist, because CI.

On top, Broken crown gives me reduced manareg.

Upsides are: 20% global increased damage on lowlife (means 1-2 passsive points on the tree MAX), good armor/ES for hybrid and give as much ES as a pure ES helmet with Life would in most cases. 40-60 chaos res, which means I can safe me 1 Item with chaos rolls (with 30 on rares being top roll).

^ those are not worth passing on a life roll, 2 other res rolls and the possibility to socket whatever I want.

If I ever want to go lowlife on nonshavs, I'd prefer a rare like the posted over your unique everytime if I had the choice (which is IMHO a failed attempt to fullfil your design).


The point is that a unique should ideally not be a replacement for a well rolled rare, but instead give some interesting options. Like you said, you can get ES on other gear, meaning that the ES on the crown isn't a dealbreaker. Meanwhile the crown can have chaos resist that is twice the amount you can get on a rare, that alone gives it niche uses.

But anyways, the important thing is that I am happy with it, and I am.
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sherkhan wrote:
I've been using it on my hybrid builds since day 1. Love the ES + Chaos Res (and can easily stick auras or reaction gems in there - the CoD is a boondoggle, as you mention). My low life, no-Shavs Templar in Anarchy would've loved it (this was pre-Ming's, pre-Lorica).


Have you tried putting reaction gems in there? since I'm pretty sure both the counterattacks and all the other trigger gems will not fire if in it since the semi-recent patch where they prevent two triggers on same item to fire. Might be that doesn't apply to counterattacks though, will admit I haven't tried.

Regular attack gems for melee/ranged also works fine in it btw, since they can't be supported by CoD.
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This thread literally makes me want to flip a table.

I was intending to buy a supporter pack within the next week; rethinking that now.

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Edit: Read the BibleThump posts by Chris, I feel bad now ;_;
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To the people saying about the game stagnation/folding.

To properly articulate what they really mean is that Act 4 with be PoE last chance to be "the game of the decade" or "this generation D2". If they fall short of meeting that goal with Act 4, people will just move into the next game while this just becomes another "good game" in the history of games. Not the next D2 they were trying so hard to make.
Id trade my unique item design for a job at GGG :P save on that pesky unique design time.....
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cryptc wrote:

The point is that a unique should ideally not be a replacement for a well rolled rare, but instead give some interesting options. Like you said, you can get ES on other gear, meaning that the ES on the crown isn't a dealbreaker. Meanwhile the crown can have chaos resist that is twice the amount you can get on a rare, that alone gives it niche uses.

But anyways, the important thing is that I am happy with it, and I am.


You know what could have made it unique? instead of "20% increased damage on lowlife" it could have said "Life Regen applies to Life AS WELL AS Energy shield on Low life".


There you go. Unique with drawbacks and a unique use. It has a better zealoths oath on lowlife and solves 1 problem of lowlive without shavs.
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1158669

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Vincendra wrote:
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cryptc wrote:

The point is that a unique should ideally not be a replacement for a well rolled rare, but instead give some interesting options. Like you said, you can get ES on other gear, meaning that the ES on the crown isn't a dealbreaker. Meanwhile the crown can have chaos resist that is twice the amount you can get on a rare, that alone gives it niche uses.

But anyways, the important thing is that I am happy with it, and I am.


You know what could have made it unique? instead of "20% increased damage on lowlife" it could have said "Life Regen applies to Life AS WELL AS Energy shield on Low life".


There you go. Unique with drawbacks and a unique use. It has a better zealoths oath on lowlife and solves 1 problem of lowlive without shavs.


Off-topic : this would make it BiS for non shavs/lorica users and would require a severe downside attached to the item, a lot harsher then some negative mana regen.

Peace,

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Boem wrote:

Off-topic : this would make it BiS for non shavs/lorica users and would require a severe downside attached to the item, a lot harsher then some negative mana regen.

Peace,

-Boem-


Exactly... and it got nerfed quite a bit from how much I asked initially, but I feel it turned out well all in all.

Edit: noticed I posted this with my alt-account, but point stands :)
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