General Discussion - GGG. About your spyware. - Forum

" maulepan wrote: " DirkAustin wrote: " maulepan wrote: Well... i am a noob concerning all technical details, but i study business, so i know that there is a lot of money in data mining. Grabbing every information you can get, organaize them and there will be some buyer. So at least i could answer your WHY question xD What i cant answer is if they actually doing it. I quickly ran a AVG check and it told me that the POE-Client is fine. No idea if thats naiv or not xD Its silly to run a perfectly fine exe file as it is.^^ Did you really think the POE client which runs the game would show up as spyware/virus/trojan kind of thing? Yes. I expect my AVG to warn me, if some programm read's processes it is not involved in. Thats my definition of a spyware... please tell me if i am wrong. Technically if you do use hax programs those should show up as red flags, not the POE exe.	Posted by Deleted on Jan 16, 2015, 10:37:47 AM
" DirkAustin wrote: Technically if you do use hax programs those should show up as red flags, not the POE exe. I dont use any xD I was just concerned about my personal files.	Posted by maulepan#7391 on Jan 16, 2015, 10:42:09 AM Quote this Post
" maulepan wrote: " DirkAustin wrote: Did you really think the POE client which runs the game would show up as spyware/virus/trojan kind of thing? Yes. I expect my AVG to warn me, if some programm read's processes it is not involved in. Thats my definition of a spyware... please tell me if i am wrong. I did a quick bit of research, best answer I can give you is a big maybe. From what I can gather from the code I've seen and the comments by the hackers examining the client, it only scans the processes in response to some trigger, now whether that trigger is simply 'run when starting' or 'run when x happens' or 'run when the server tells me to' I don't know. When it begins walking the processes it may trigger AVG's malware detection, and it may not. I really couldn't find any AVG documentation that was clear on when they check, it should trigger an AVG alarm when the game begins scanning processes - whether it actually does or not is another story. If I find out more, and can still post on these forums, I'll update this thread. My 2c anyhow. PS: The more I think about it, the more I doubt that AVG is the right tool for the job. Update: Just discovered that reportedly the code is active, at least it is periodically walking the process list. At least as far as I understand it, I mistakenly thought it was only reading its own memory to check for maphack, sorry about that! Last edited by againwetryagain#1739 on Jan 16, 2015, 11:22:01 AM	Posted by againwetryagain#1739 on Jan 16, 2015, 10:49:56 AM Quote this Post
Yes, the trigger is memory writes. Last edited by SL4Y3R#7487 on Jan 16, 2015, 11:23:46 AM	Posted by SL4Y3R#7487 on Jan 16, 2015, 11:21:54 AM Banned Quote this Post
" SL4Y3R wrote: Yes, the trigger is memory writes. So I was right with the first update, eeesh.. ok time for me to sleep, getting confused on what I'm seeing.	Posted by againwetryagain#1739 on Jan 16, 2015, 11:23:05 AM Quote this Post
Does this really warrant a play-by-play? Can we get a John Madden white board example and a few Madden-like statements? "You see, in order to win the game -- you have to score more points than the other team!" or maybe something more suiting: "You see, you can't stand directly in the sun with your tin foil hat on. The reflection will alert the aliens of your presence and they will be down shortly to collect you and remove your coveted hat!" Thanks for all the fish! Last edited by Nubatron#4333 on Jan 16, 2015, 11:28:13 AM	Posted by Nubatron#4333 on Jan 16, 2015, 11:26:24 AM Quote this Post
" maulepan wrote: " DirkAustin wrote: Technically if you do use hax programs those should show up as red flags, not the POE exe. I dont use any xD I was just concerned about my personal files. It doesnt scan any personal files, only programs that interfere with the POE client. And if you dont start the client it doesnt scan anything anyways.	Posted by Deleted on Jan 16, 2015, 11:42:53 AM
^ ??? So there is a way of running POE without the client? Or is that not what you meant? Forum signature	Posted by DrWood#0528 on Jan 16, 2015, 2:14:51 PM Quote this Post
" DrWood wrote: ^ ??? So there is a way of running POE without the client? Or is that not what you meant? Lol, more like, dont start the client, dont play the game. :P Seriously, people are too gullible these days, thinking its spyware because someone said so. Thats like if someone at the airport yells, "I GOT A BOMB!" even though there is no damn bomb anywhere people would still run.	Posted by Deleted on Jan 16, 2015, 2:19:06 PM
" DirkAustin wrote: Its always funny how people claim to be programmers and working for the government and such on a forum while they really are living with their parents sitting in some room playing video games all day. Hm nearly 30 posts per day. Impressive feat. It looks like you play the forum warrior game all day. Kinda sad you´re trying to defame someone with a certain behavior that reflect your own pretty much. Is this a subconscious scream for help Dirk? Do you need proper care? What can never be lent or earned? Somewhat, that devours everyone and everything: A tree that rush. A bird that sings. It eat bones and smite the hardest stones. Masticate every sword. Shatters every shrine. It defeat mighty kings and carry mountains on lightly wings. What am i?	Posted by Spysong192#7559 on Jan 16, 2015, 3:10:29 PM Quote this Post