Kickstarter Campaign for PoE's Optional Self Found League!

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DarthSki44 wrote:
Trying to apply fault on the consumer is beyond madness.

I have said this so many times before. I want to fucking find my gear, not buy it from someone. (whether that be real $ or in game currency - as if that is a difference anymore)




I don't understand peoples' perseverance on the insistence that the game must fundamentally change in order to satisfy them especially when there are games that exist that meet their criterion.

I don't fault people for not liking the game, this game is not for everyone it seems.

I do fault people for expecting the game to change to cater to exactly what they want.


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Hi, Welcome to Chocolate House, we sell all chocolate type things.

Consumer - "WAHHH I HATE CHOCOLATE SELL VANILLA SELL IT OR UR STUBBORN AND LET UR EGO GO TO YOUR HEAD WAHHHH WAHHH WAHH, I DON'T WANT CHOCOLATE, I DONT WANT TO DEAL WITH CHOCOLATE, I DONT WANT TO SEE CHOCOLATE, YOU NEED TO CHANGE THIS NOW WAHHHH WAHHHH"

I'm sorry sir, we are the Chocolate House, home to all chocolate goods, may I suggest you try many of the other stores in town that sell Vanilla and Vanilla accessories?

Consumer - NO YOU CHANGE TO WHAT I WANT, IM NOT GOING TO THE STORES THAT SELL VANILLA, WHY ARE YOU BEING SO STUBBORN



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Have self found, sure, go ahead, but don't make it effect people that want to play the game as it is.
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Last edited by Manocean#0852 on Jan 13, 2015, 1:45:54 PM
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Manocean wrote:

Have self found, sure, go ahead, but don't make it effect people that want to play the game as it is.


That's why we would like a separate league for it.
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againwetryagain wrote:
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Manocean wrote:

Have self found, sure, go ahead, but don't make it effect people that want to play the game as it is.


That's why we would like a separate league for it.


I agree. a separate set of leagues for this would be awesome. it doesn't change the current game or leagues it just adds 2 (one sc one hc) with all trading and drops (and guild stash) disabled for people who like the self found style. I don't know if it requires crowd funding since they can probably just disable those features, but either way it would be great.
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againwetryagain wrote:
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Manocean wrote:

Have self found, sure, go ahead, but don't make it effect people that want to play the game as it is.


That's why we would like a separate league for it.


Nah, you can kickstarter your own arpg and leave GGG alone with their trading based arpg.
Nobody still outlined what a "SFL" league should be.

Apparently they aren't aware they are many variants on it and people would argue endlessly on which "ladder version" of SFL should exist."

Even then I have no idea why people complaining about trading/drops/whatever for reasons to make a SFL league when the new league wouldn't make any changes to the gameplay to begin with other then you cannot trade.

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So you know all the complaints about the current game verses self found would be applicable unless you just want a ladder to be tracked against other players.
Last edited by RagnarokChu#4426 on Jan 13, 2015, 2:42:48 PM
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RagnarokChu wrote:
Nobody still outlined what a "SFL" league should be.

Apparently they aren't aware they are many variants on it and people would argue endlessly on which "ladder version" of SFL should exist."

Even then I have no idea why people complaining about trading/drops/whatever for reasons to make a SFL league when the new league wouldn't make any changes to the gameplay to begin with other then you cannot trade.

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So you know all the complaints about the current game verses self found would be applicable unless you just want a ladder to be tracked against other players.


Dont worry about it, this thread, like the other SFL thread will go nowhere, these people are wasting their time asking for something GGG doesnt see in their vision of what this game should feature.
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DirkAustin wrote:
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glh5 wrote:
SFL already almost works. Only thing that is needed is targeted crafting so you can acquire specific gems/uniques that are missing in your build (especially for new players)


Dont drag new players into this, i did just fine when i was new and i learned pretty damn fast on how things work. The game has a slow learning curve as it is.


Don't drag new players out of this. With almost any build, you'll have to buy at least one gem. And it used to be much harder because some classes didn't get reduced mana lol. I actually played until like level 80 until I obtained a reduced mana by luck. I see it very plausible that you could play until 85 with no reduced mana.
So where's the KS link? I cant imagine this entire thread was just blowing hot air, no wait..
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glh5 wrote:
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DirkAustin wrote:
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glh5 wrote:
SFL already almost works. Only thing that is needed is targeted crafting so you can acquire specific gems/uniques that are missing in your build (especially for new players)


Dont drag new players into this, i did just fine when i was new and i learned pretty damn fast on how things work. The game has a slow learning curve as it is.


Don't drag new players out of this. With almost any build, you'll have to buy at least one gem. And it used to be much harder because some classes didn't get reduced mana lol. I actually played until like level 80 until I obtained a reduced mana by luck. I see it very plausible that you could play until 85 with no reduced mana.


I didnt need reduced mana on my first char and i didnt need to buy a single gem. Later with more chars i didnt even need to buy anything really, this game can be played self found pretty easily. And new players are not hitting 85 so soon. If they do, theyre not new players anymore. So yea, leave new players out of this was right.
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TheWretch wrote:
So where's the KS link? I cant imagine this entire thread was just blowing hot air, no wait..


Aw damn, you broke the thread.^^

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