Kickstarter Campaign for PoE's Optional Self Found League!

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againwetryagain wrote:

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nait2k4 wrote:

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againwetryagain wrote:

The whole "they can just play X in standard" argument is exactly the same for both HC and SF.

The point has been raised before, and argued before, and debunked before.

Raised and argued, granted; debunked, hardly.

There is, however, one argument against a SFL that I would buy, at least from GGG's perspective: Along with the cost of setting up a permanent league, there is at least one point - the per character stashes - that would require new coding. Not sure about the account binding as I think that is already done with legacy items?

So yeah, as the poster a few posts above noted, it would have to be 'harder than hard core' to fit in GGG's overall vision I guess, and then would also, from a business standpoint, have to bring in enough revenue to pay for the coding, setup, servers, etc. It would take away time and effort from GGG's current projects on what would be a gamble so, would love to see it, not holding my breath.

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grant_m wrote:

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TheBagman wrote:

I personally have no strong feelings about a SFL, but I can tell you why it probably won't happen. Trading boosts player interaction. Player interaction boosts retention. Finally, retention boosts revenue. Even more simply put, players in a self-found game of this type tend (as a whole) to get bored and quit. A player who quits isn't buying anything from the shop.

Yes, there are certainly people who would play SF for ages, but there's plenty more who think they like the idea, but get bored after trying it for a while. On the whole, I suspect a SFL would probably be a revenue loss for GGG.

Personally, I'd like GGG to thrive, so I think it's a bad idea, but I'm not worried, as I'm sure they're fully aware of the stats.

Question for you. Have you traded at all during your time with the game?

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DirkAustin wrote:

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mrpetrov wrote:

Yeah, I don't think it would be any excuse for Chris (or Qarl, or whomever at GGG) not to actively and consistently *play* PoE if they really have a passion for it, which I believe (hope?) they still do.

I really don't mean to sound like a tool - and I know this does - but I would daresay my and many others players' lives are at least as busy as either Chris' or Qarl's and I/we managed to keep playing PoE for nigh on two years at a fairly constant level. So I don't buy the busyness hypothesis for them not playing. They may just not enjoy it, of course, and that would be consistent with the theory that Chris' vision of what PoE actually is today is different from (some/many) players' real life experience.

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pretty much this, i cant even comprehend why they wouldnt play it, honestly in my opinion you shouldnt be let to design a game that you dont even play because you will cock it up, as they have in some cases.

If they would become players they would be tempted to balance the game in how they play, not how they want us to play. It would basically be like cheating.