Do you guys ever get tired of spamming one or two skills?

This seems to be weakness of this games gem system combined with no free respects by the time I'm lvl 85 or so I'm bored as shit just spamming mostly 1 skill..Compare that to when I used to play d3 I was spamming 4-6 skills all the time on skill bar/mouse.


Like here was my Shocknadoshards build look at that spam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub_HKB83Qro

Or WW barb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVplLRaUIEM

Both builds spammed at least 5 skills continuous (you dont see animation on mouse depressing two keys on right but they are spamming)

In this game I hold down one spell. If I force it I use lightning warp non stop for movment making 1 1/2 spam.

There is no room for other stuff between auras and cwdt set or what have you.

This is what I consider to be the weakness of this game...while there are many viable builds, each one generally relies on the use of 1-2 skills. I don't know how people get bored holding down rightclick to spam cyclone to lvl90+.

I think trap builds in poe are the most interesting...they require the most dynamic gameplay compared to others.

If you just spam one button you will die, the interesting part is checking the environment (reflects hexfronts etc) and reacting to them so that you do not die, ofc for SC it's not really a problem, but any build that could do HC 100 with brainless spamming is probably on the nerf-list.

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Aim_Deep wrote:

This seems to be weakness of this games gem system combined with no free respects by the time I'm lvl 85 or so I'm bored as shit just spamming mostly 1 skill..Compare that to when I used to play d3 I was spamming 4-6 skills all the time on skill bar/mouse.


Like here was my Shocknadoshards build look at that spam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub_HKB83Qro

Or WW barb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVplLRaUIEM

Both builds spammed at least 5 skills continuous (you dont see animation on mouse depressing two keys on right but they are spamming)

In this game I hold down one spell. If I force it I use lightning warp non stop for movment making 1 1/2 spam.

There is no room for other stuff between auras and cwdt set or what have you.

There's plenty of room if you're only considering gear unless you have a 6L in which case yes nothing will ever rival that 6L efficiency.

Main issue though even with a 4L is that your tree will support one gem mostly or it will typically be inefficient, even without a 6L.

Not really, in d3 you aren't limited on what skills you can use (build wise, only by class)

Killing mobs with 1 aoe or with another aoe really doesn't matter to me. I think aside from them 1-2 main attacks 1 additional vaal gem setup can go a long way to improving the gameplay (if you like spamming buttons for some reason), most don't because the more buttons you have to hit on a character the slower the gameplay will be.

As for @killerb its still a problem in SC if you die, the XP penalty is nothing to scoff at.

D3 only has one life pot, while poe has 5 flask, do you ever get bored of just hitting one life pot in D3?

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KillerB wrote:

If you just spam one button you will die, the interesting part is checking the environment (reflects hexfronts etc) and reacting to them so that you do not die, ofc for SC it's not really a problem, but any build that could do HC 100 with brainless spamming is probably on the nerf-list.

All the builds doing uber even hardest content spam one skill. CoC Barrage, ST, SRS etc. What is this build that needs more? Maybe an occasional corrupted ground? Or manual IC? Thats 1.5 tops. In some fights.

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goetzjam wrote:

Not really, in d3 you aren't limited on what skills you can use (build wise, only by class)

Killing mobs with 1 aoe or with another aoe really doesn't matter to me. I think aside from them 1-2 main attacks 1 additional vaal gem setup can go a long way to improving the gameplay (if you like spamming buttons for some reason), most don't because the more buttons you have to hit on a character the slower the gameplay will be.

As for @killerb its still a problem in SC if you die, the XP penalty is nothing to scoff at.

D3 only has one life pot, while poe has 5 flask, do you ever get bored of just hitting one life pot in D3?

Fair point. I do spam pots. But not skill synergies. There is just no space to do that.

Most I ever spam
was shock totem on a 3L
Main spell
lightning warp
Manual IC

But three of those rare.

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All the builds doing uber even hardest content spam one skill. CoC Barrage, ST, SRS etc. What is this build that needs more? Maybe an occasional corrupted ground? Or manual IC? Thats 1.5 tops. In some fights.

Uber atziri should be in no way the reflection of the skill gems\builds\playstyle of the game in general.

Srs is the cheapest out of those builds and IMO isn't even in the same league as the others.

Yeah they might be 1 click I didn't say that those top builds are not, what I said that if you play brainless and spam 1 skill you'll die sooner or later, once again I was trying to prove that difficulty does not comes from what skill, but when and how you use that skill.

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KillerB wrote:

Yeah they might be 1 click I didn't say that those top builds are not, what I said that if you play brainless and spam 1 skill you'll die sooner or later, once again I was trying to prove that difficulty does not comes from what skill, but when and how you use that skill.

Give me an example of what you mean? 99% of the time you are spamming /holding one skill regardless.

Unlike say that WW barb above whom
Had to move in proper circles to maintain hits, crits and fury
was spamming overpower for more crit (for 5 sec I think) and did a little burst damage
was spamming rend to make them bleed
was spamming battle rage for more deeps
Was spamming sprint/tornado more dam and away from pack dam and fury maintainer

And you couldnt just mindlessly spam either or fury ran out. You also had to time each one because they all had different cooldown based on critting and internal timer so had to play attention. Low volume pack slower succession of depressions. Higher spam away.

Anyway I want to know about these clicky builds never seen one and read a lot of guide here at work. I probably never will because there is not space with gem system for tons of synergy spam.