Ambush at Zana costs 12 chaos? For 4 strong boxes??

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Shagsbeard wrote:

Imagine if they added something that was "worth it". What would people be doing other than that? Right. Nothing. That's all they would do.

God forbid we are allowed to do something worthy of loot in a loot hunting game.

Maybe the problem isn't that people would only do that ... Its that right now ... No matter what you do you can expect no good loot unless you get lucky.... And even than good luck selling at proper price.. This game is full of scammers and thieves.


You people that support days and weeks of no progression are masochists.... It does NOT make the game last longer... It makes people get bored
quicker.

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ZaruenVoresu wrote:

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Shagsbeard wrote:

Imagine if they added something that was "worth it". What would people be doing other than that? Right. Nothing. That's all they would do.

God forbid we are allowed to do something worthy of loot in a loot hunting game.

Maybe the problem isn't that people would only do that ... Its that right now ... No matter what you do you can expect no good loot unless you get lucky.... And even than good luck selling at proper price.. This game is full of scammers and thieves.


You people that support days and weeks of no progression are masochists.... It does NOT make the game last longer... It makes people get bored
quicker.

Tl:dr you have no clue how to play the game and everyone that does is eitehr a thief, a scammer or some kind of nolifer.

On topic: Zana prices are perfectly fine. Fun fact: Some of them used to cost multiple exalts and I didn't see any whine threads then..

IMO Zana's prices should vary based on the level of the map. Current prices could possibly be ok for a well rolled 77/78, but there is no way some1 would be using them for maps like 70s - unless that person is trying them out or having some really expensive fun :P


This could be fun and nice feature, but at the moment it doesn't even exist really. Would you ever pay 12 chaos to buff a 68 map? Yea that's what I thought. Prices needs tuning somehow, preferably based on the map used.

I also like the idea, that cartographers box wouldn't spawn with the mod - when the price is (low) right.

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InYourEyes wrote:

Tl:dr you have no clue how to play the game and everyone that does is eitehr a thief, a scammer or some kind of nolifer.

On topic: Zana prices are perfectly fine. Fun fact: Some of them used to cost multiple exalts and I didn't see any whine threads then..

You're going to tell me that the average poster or even the average player in this game, had Zana leveled up enough to even see those prices back then?

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BerMalBerIst1_AKA_GrammerPolise wrote:

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Waves_blade wrote:

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InYourEyes wrote:

Tl:dr you have no clue how to play the game and everyone that does is eitehr a thief, a scammer or some kind of nolifer.

On topic: Zana prices are perfectly fine. Fun fact: Some of them used to cost multiple exalts and I didn't see any whine threads then..

You're going to tell me that the average poster or even the average player in this game, had Zana leveled up enough to even see those prices back then?

You're telling me if they didn't have Zana leveled they couldn't read the wiki to find out how much the map mods cost?

Huehuehue

Bro, that takes effort to do, you are giving people waaaay to much credit.

Huehuehue

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ZaruenVoresu wrote:

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Shagsbeard wrote:

Imagine if they added something that was "worth it". What would people be doing other than that? Right. Nothing. That's all they would do.

God forbid we are allowed to do something worthy of loot in a loot hunting game.

Maybe the problem isn't that people would only do that ... Its that right now ... No matter what you do you can expect no good loot unless you get lucky.... And even than good luck selling at proper price.. This game is full of scammers and thieves.


You people that support days and weeks of no progression are masochists.... It does NOT make the game last longer... It makes people get bored
quicker.

The reason that the game has "scammers and thieves" is that items have value. Your suggestion would eliminate them, because no one would have any reason to bother.

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Damon_Tor wrote:

I think you need to refresh yourself on the definition of "gamble". Gambling is by it's nature a bad choice: the odds are against you. When the odds are for you, you call it an "investment". There's a reason investing isn't as much fun as gambling, and that's because of a flaw in human brains that drives us towards high-risk behavior as long as there is a possibility (no matter how remote) of high reward.

And you can also gamble without it being a straight up bad choice. Most things in this game are a gamble and yet I still do them because it's a fair shot at my objective and doesn't feel just like throwing my currency in the trash.

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Therealshotzz wrote:

1 guy said it, league only uniques. voll's devotion? 30 ex. not worth the cost of .. onslaught? right.

Exactly how many times in your opinion would you have to pay for onslaught before you would statistically have a decent shot at finding a Volls devotion? Ya it's worth a lot but by the time you get it I bet you spent most or more than what it's worth buying the zana mods.

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Iluvatar_gr wrote:

All the Zana options are meant for 76+ maps. If you onslaught a 70 map of course the added quality will not get you a return.. After 76s however EVERY Zana Mod is worth the chaos spent. The thread is, of course, pointless..

The map that I used the ambush mod on was a 78 palace. I do not agree with you.

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Xavderion wrote:

GGG could balance this for solo by letting you basically buy 1 to 6 portals. You could buy one portal for 1/6th of the current price for yourself and that's it.

Awesome idea. Thanks for putting some thought into my thread.

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InYourEyes wrote:

Tl:dr you have no clue how to play the game and everyone that does is eitehr a thief, a scammer or some kind of nolifer.

I didn't see that in his post. He was making a point about the game being pretty unrewarding most of the time which has been a big criticism of the game for a long long time.

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On topic: Zana prices are perfectly fine. Fun fact: Some of them used to cost multiple exalts and I didn't see any whine threads then..

You must not have been looking. There were plenty.

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1069899
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1054171/page/2
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1067708
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1019243

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iamstryker wrote:

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Iluvatar_gr wrote:

All the Zana options are meant for 76+ maps. If you onslaught a 70 map of course the added quality will not get you a return.. After 76s however EVERY Zana Mod is worth the chaos spent. The thread is, of course, pointless..

The map that I used the ambush mod on was a 78 palace. I do not agree with you.

I don't understand. You just played one map and proceed to conclude that Zana's mods are not worth or you have actually tested this and you are sharing your opinion with us?
All the players at the top of both Torment and bloodlines leagues are using Zana's mods for maps with great success. When you say " thing x is shit" you better have tested this on many maps or else you simply don't have a good sample to judge.
In the old days we would exalt a map and get nothing in return. Seeing people complaining about having to gamble a few chaos to get added mods in maps is simply sad.