[2.1] Nalaa's Phys Lightning arrow | 5L 30k dps

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Sormac wrote:

Confirmed that its only 3 str nodes away from where it was... all should be fine.

How is that fine? 3 wasted (and don't tell me it's not wasted because you get 15 base HP and 6% Physical Damage - those are horrible for 3 points) Skill Points can easily be the difference between going Nalaa's or a variation of Petrov's build. It was really close before because Iron Grip only applies to Physical Damage (and still additively), now I'd guess Petrov's build has a slight advantage.

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HiddenoO wrote:

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Sormac wrote:

Confirmed that its only 3 str nodes away from where it was... all should be fine.

How is that fine? 3 wasted (and don't tell me it's not wasted because you get 15 base HP and 6% Physical Damage - those are horrible for 3 points) Skill Points can easily be the difference between going Nalaa's or a variation of Petrov's build. It was really close before because Iron Grip only applies to Physical Damage (and still additively), now I'd guess Petrov's build has a slight advantage.

I'd be interested to see numbers comparing the two builds.

I pulled 3 skill points out of life and put it into getting to Berserking, so no DPS trade off here.

Big deal, its not like I get even remotely close to dying in any Map content thus far.

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Sormac wrote:

Confirmed that its only 3 str nodes away from where it was... all should be fine.

Are you crazy? that is 3 extra points to get to it so instead of spending 1 point to get it, we now have to spend 4 points... that is a huge nerf if you ask me.

So if you count nodes to get to Current Berserkering from Blood Magic it's 8 total points spent to get Unwavering Stance and Berserkering.

Instead of spending those 8 points, I think its better to go into Fury Bolts and down to Acceleration for 7 points. Sure you get stunned now (I played without Unwavering Stance a lot and I rarely got stunned anyway), but you gain 30% attack speed instead of 15% and 16% projectile damage.

I think this wasnt a buff to Dualist, but a nerf to Ele Rangers because a Duelist would go to iron will anyway, while a Ranger would not want to spend 3 extra points to get Berserkering.

EDIT: Did we Rangers get a points refund? Its going to be an hour or so before I can log to the game and see.

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Schn1tt3r wrote:

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Sormac wrote:

Confirmed that its only 3 str nodes away from where it was... all should be fine.

Are you crazy? that is 3 extra points to get to it so instead of spending 1 point to get it, we now have to spend 4 points... that is a huge nerf if you ask me.

So if you count nodes to get to Current Berserkering from Blood Magic it's 8 total points spent to get Unwavering Stance and Berserkering.

Instead of spending those 8 points, I think its better to go into Fury Bolts and down to Acceleration for 7 points. Sure you get stunned now (I played without Unwavering Stance a lot and I rarely got stunned anyway), but you gain 30% attack speed instead of 15% and 16% projectile damage.

I think this wasnt a buff to Dualist, but a nerf to Ele Rangers because a Duelist would go to iron will anyway, while a Ranger would not want to spend 3 extra points to get Berserkering.

Again, pull those 3 from a central life node and invest into into the 3 str nodes to get Beserking.

Are you finding yourself challenged in terms of HP? I highly doubt it if you confidently play without Unwavering Stance.

And yes we did get a point refund, all points back.

I guess I won't play Ranger until I make up my mind. I am seriously considering this build since I have Unique Lioneye's Bow:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgIBAnEEswguDH0OrRB_EdsUTRR1FSAZjho4Gtsk_SmlKk0s6TJ-Mok1kjboOdQ6UjrhPs8_J0p9TeNOyFFHVcZW-lfiWK9bPV-qY6dnoGe9bPZuqm_yc-F0QXfleA16uILkh3aI8Yqvj0aQEZBVm42boaCfogCmV6cIp4SpbqxZrpO18riTvebB2Maez2XQR9DQ037VAN0N3Ubfv-dU7Djtg-4O7m_3iPlj_E78xUGHgsco-uvuqriqf4cZr-sB0fT4okDEojLRRUe1BF3GRtftIOFzi4zkIilPgpv-j4FJsjhmT8rTGbT6sepi3sbNmL6n

I will lose some HP, and I will get stunned (unless I wear eye of chayula which I have), but I gain about 40% elemental damage and 14% or so attack speed and projectile damage.

EDIT: And gain bunch of resist too.

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Schn1tt3r wrote:

I guess I won't play Ranger until I make up my mind. I am seriously considering this build since I have Unique Lioneye's Bow:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgIBAnEEswguDH0OrRB_EdsUTRR1FSAZjho4Gtsk_SmlKk0s6TJ-Mok1kjboOdQ6UjrhPs8_J0p9TeNOyFFHVcZW-lfiWK9bPV-qY6dnoGe9bPZuqm_yc-F0QXfleA16uILkh3aI8Yqvj0aQEZBVm42boaCfogCmV6cIp4SpbqxZrpO18riTvebB2Maez2XQR9DQ037VAN0N3Ubfv-dU7Djtg-4O7m_3iPlj_E78xUGHgsco-uvuqriqf4cZr-sB0fT4okDEojLRRUe1BF3GRtftIOFzi4zkIilPgpv-j4FJsjhmT8rTGbT6sepi3sbNmL6n

I will lose some HP, and I will get stunned (unless I wear eye of chayula which I have), but I gain about 40% elemental damage and 14% or so attack speed and projectile damage.

I made almost the exact same build as you did :P Waiting for any comments on this build, cos I wanna try Ele ranger now :P

Since Berserking/15% attack-speed has moved. I have made this build. Only thing I think I lose is celery movement speed node.

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgIAAdECcQSzCC4OrRRNGNsZjho4HRQhYCftKLUppTIJMn4yiTWSNug26TpSOuE8LUCgQ5xGaUp9TP9N407IVcZWBFb6V-JYr1uvYIhhUmOnZp5noGe9bPZuqnKpc-F08Xdid-V4DXq4fNmC5IZgh3aI8Yqvj0aQCpARkFWbjZuhnrmfy6IAokCmV6eEqW6sWayqrpOvbK_rtfK3PsAaxKLE9sWKxq7PZdBH0NDTft0N3Ubfv-Nq52PsOO2D7g7ub-9O8B_yRfPd9Pj60vxO_MX-Cv6P

What you guys think of this build?

That actually looks pretty good, making me wish I didnt jump the gun and take the 3 str nodes

This is what I came up with after the new skill tree, I went threw the bottom to blood magic then to iron grip. Before the patch I went from the ranger side up to iron grip then down to blood magic.

0.10.2 Build


Before you say "OMG 119 point build!", I just looking for suggestions on where to shave points to turn this into more of a lvl 80-85 build. I feel like the 2x enemy critical strike multiplier reduction nodes in the marauder tree are HUGE in terms of survivability. I am 99% sure this works for reflect mobs too. For those using lion's eye glare or no resolute technique, this means mobs will reflect 30% less crit damage back at you which could save yourself from being 1-shotted if you crit a large reflect pack.

Max Point Build

After the newest update, I was forced to re-evaluate with the changes to the duelist passives.
This is a max point version and I'm hoping for some feedback and different view points from Yongsheng and my fellow rangers.