Daggers.. #1 in dps... #1 in crit... #1 in passive tree... am I missing something?

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Poutsos wrote:

Both of you have valid points. Sure daggers that are 5x times harder and more expensive to craft should be better than swords. On the other hand, playing other weapons only if you cannot afford a dagger is bad game design as well. Anyway for me if they cap dagger attack speed base to 1.2 atk/sec, and then add some good notables to other weapon types- similar to adder's touch problem is solved. And make crafting of top tier weapons around the same difficulty. But really, attack speed is what puts everything over the top. Also 700K DPS+ melee builds are just for showcase. You will destroy your self on reflect, and in the end you will clear slower than bows/wands etc. The problem was on auras, attack speed and spectral throw. 2 of the 3 have been addressed and the situation is definetely better now. They did not buff other weapon types though, and this really has to be done.

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Chundadragon wrote:

Crit multi nerf is the way to go.

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Malum95 wrote:

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Krayken wrote:

Daggers should have a huge damage penalty when thrown. Theyre so light they get slown down by the air.

My idea is : daggers can't crit when thrown. Problem solved. You want big damage with your mirrored dagger? Go melee. As simple as that.

You do realise literaly one of the only throwing weapons besides a spear, is in-fact...a dagger? Slowed down by the air? WTF? I Would love to see someone throwing a broadsword in real life easier than a dagger..

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Chundadragon wrote:

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LSN wrote:

Of course your dagger was way more expensive, as everone already knows how much op daggers are.

So without using a suicide helmet, 7k vs 6k is inbalanced?

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Sickness wrote:

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Chundadragon wrote:

Crit multi nerf is the way to go.

Yes.
Crits should just do 200% damage.
There will never be balance aslong as you can increase both crit chance and crit multiplier. They either have to be nerfed so much so that its not worth getting unless you go all in for crit or they will simply multiply too well with eachother that it becomes by far the best way to increase DPS.
Both of those situations are bad.
If you only could increase crit chance then it wouldn't go crazy if you stacked it alot and it would still be useful to get only a bit of it.

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Eternallight wrote:

Crits are strong to be sure, however you must invest alot of nodes into them for good effect and then you lose out on alot of other things.

I think most crit builds invest at least 60 nodes between traveling and the crit nodes themselves... if not more.

They also tend to be squishy.

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Poutsos wrote:

If crit multi caps at 2x damage, then daggers will be completely useless and possibly crits in general in this game. Even with crazy gear, due to how chance to hit interacts with crits, your final chance to crit will not even be 80%, so a RT with a stronger weapon will always deal more-way more- damage. But a nerf to crit multi in general might be some kind of a solution. I do insist that the main issue is attack speed, by a long shot. The other issue, on ranged builds is the interaction of GMP with Chain which is just rediculous.