Daggers.. #1 in dps... #1 in crit... #1 in passive tree... am I missing something?

Sry but wands have the best passives. 50% added eledmg from physical is just insane

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Autocthon wrote:

And nobody asked for the nerf hammer.

Oh, believe me, I'm asking for the nerf hammer.

* Nodes with 10% phys and 30% crit are more than twice as strong as 12% phys nodes.
* Nodes with 10% phys and 3% attack speed are twice as strong as 12% phys nodes.
* Adder's Touch. By gawd.
* An intrinsic worth two to four skill points. Eight skill points if you count the kind of walk you'd have to take to actually get it off the skill tree.

So it's either give everyone else ~30 stat points worth of power, or just deal with the elephant in the room. Which is a combination of topend crit multiplier, basic stat points twice as strong as other basic stat points (seriously, the 10% phys and 3% ias at bows are comparable to 24% phys, what used to pass as a freaking notable), and an implicit actually worth a damn.

Though I am mildly in favor of ways of modifying implicit affixes besides Vaal Orbs.

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50% added eledmg from physical is just insane

It would be if you had prismatic penetration support gems in the game. But after resist that's 25% added effective damage. Which just makes up for the lower base damage they had in the first place. With a little extra - you should get something for your skill point after all. Whole thing really screams "use lightning damage" to me.

Those new wand crit nodes, tho..

Let see after daggers......Yes nerf them wands!!!They too OP DEAL TOO MUCH DPS!!!After wands lets see...........NERF THEM BOW THE BUFFED TOO MUCH NEED NERF!!!!Lets see after bow...............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................So much jelly so much QQ.And people who had aleady experienced using OP items will QQ for nerf so they can get their items to become legacy and sell it for profit. Happens all the time.

Stop donating if you think this game doesn't suite you. If you're an adult and an avid gamer then you should know better. Bye!

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daggers are #1 in dps because they are #1 in crit chance/multi

How many dps nodes a 2h builds averagely has? I have a dagger build and I can telly you I have 41 dps nodes in my tree.

LimitedRooster if you are going to post nodes post them correctly (6% phys 30% crit not 10/30)

Now lets see what kind of nodes exist on the right side of tree:

Disemboweling: 150% crit chance in 3 nodes for 2h

Blunt trauma: 90% crit chance 24% dmg in 3 nodes for staves

In 8 nodes with these two u get 240% crit chance and 24% dmg? what? not good?

Furthermore close by is:

Smashing strikes: 36% dmg and 80% crit in 4 nodes for staves

Serpent staff: 90% crit chance, 30% crit multi in 3 nodes.

lets look at 1h

Pure brutality cluster: 150% crit chance in 3 nodes for 1h

Deadly precision: one node gives 80% crit chance 6% attack speed and 12% phys dmg. The 4 cluster points give 22% phys dmg 120% crit chance, 6 % attack speed, 15 multi. And this cluster is next to Cruelty cluster = 35% multi in 2 points.

Swift precision: 8 attack speed, 50% crit chance, 10% multy and 10% acc - just one 3% speed node away from highway.

Are these worse than dagger nodes in shadow area?

Now here's what I believe

RT/non crit user should not be able to get near the dps of a crit user.

daggers are best crit 1h wep, staves are best 2h crit weapons. As far as I know with comparable tier gear staves provide more dps than daggers (not talking about ST low life CoE bulshit - that's another topic). For instance 100-150k cyclone. Is that enough to overcome not using a shield? I have to say no, even tho the staves have block nodes and implicit block it is not imo.

So I agree 2h need some love, but its really not the lack of dps, it the fact this dps increase can not overcome the loss of block.

I consider wands the superior option now.

Wands did get a lot of love and they are quite good from the look of the tree, haven't tried a build yet tho

bows did out dps and were more safe to play than 2 handers even before the buff, 2 handers are just bad, they have no defense, no damage and nothing else, not even fun, because the aoe isnt better compared to 1 hand too , and now after the nerf to life and max resistance, white mobs on map without damge mods do 50% of your maximumlife with one hit, with 8500 life,


every weekend i write an email to ggg support that 2 handers are bad and marauder starting ara is bad compared to other classes, but they still give a fuck

but maybe hegemonys era makes 2 hand builds viable, yeah blancing an entire build section around a single 100ex uniqe

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kasub wrote:

I consider wands the superior option now.

Yup. Our Wander dps is way higher than our ST builds now. Fyndel just put up a guide to his new BM based Wander char that he tested out using some of my gear lent to him. BM allows you a bit higher dps than mana based but you lose access to AA as a trade off.




Wander outclears ST by a mile now, the only edge you can really give ST is tha it can use Whirling Blades. (and it's better overall for Uber Atziri killing do to the mechanics of that run - Wander still does Uber just fine ofc)

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Tygerwoody wrote:

Daggers.. #1 in dps... #1 in crit... #1 in passive tree... am I missing something?

Every one who play longer 2H know that, its not a secret for no one, whats point create #99999999 thread about it?
You really think ggg will read ur msg and change something? Huh?

Me and 100% of community know that long long ago, who cares? Well, in true everyone but not ggg or Chris or Mark.

Why do people post depressing stuff like this? The guy makes a thread that you admit has a legitimate point and you berate him for making it?

It really doesn't matter how many other threads so the same thing. If you want something to change then people need to keep bringing it up.