is this guy cheating?

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vixien wrote:
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cyranorick wrote:
He also ssems zo use a makro to drink all 5 potions at once, which is def. not allowed afaik.


they've stated many times it is, but I doubt anything will be done about it.

I like how he respec'd out of the auras after he cast them. That takes confidence since zoning out would reset the auras to a weaker state. Not to mention like an exalt of regrets to redo it all, but when you can get epic look from uber atziri, whats 1 ex when you get items that sell for 100+ ex, right?


that's the part I didn't like, it's exactly how you say it is - he's so rich and he will be more richer tomorrow, since he could do this all day long, respeccing his tree in every map just so he get the benefits from both aura nodes and es nodes/crit whatever.

seems rich people can do whatever they want to, who cares.

Not saying that his playstyle itself is shit, he kills fast yeah, but well, he's using like 5 mirrored items and the rest is just the core gear in addition for his build + the "abuse" of more auras than he could actually use, the aura buff nodes, then after respeccing the es nodes and the crit nodes.

therefor my thumbs down, but yea obviously some people like it and they would do the same
POE 2 got serious performance issues. And so far the devs don't do anything about it or can't do anything about it. Either way it is very bad!
i wish i can do that
im just too poor
That respecing out of aura nodes and casted auras still using them is a serious bug in my eyes.
Using something that you are not specing for it is a clear exploit.


I use his build - snapshotting is necessary but not to the extent that he does it lol. (that's for true min/max)

Not sure how he'd do on Uber Atziri without the regret snapshot tbh. I think he could prob do it fine without bothering if it came down to it. (just regularly snapshotting the auras)

I'm in Ambush so my gear is nowhere near as godly :D but I'm working my way towards uber atziri. (oh so slowly...)




Anyways madprops to Alexlulz for his sick build and awesome 0 death Uber Atziri vid. Guy knows what's up.
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andkamen wrote:
its called creative use of ingame mechanics


Its called finding exploits and using them to your advantage.
Nope, GGG have already partialy fixed snap shotting they know that it can still be abused but until they fix it fully you are free to do this sort of thing, just as you were free to exploit Auras before the partial fix.
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Last edited by lagwin1980#2224 on Apr 24, 2014, 5:58:13 AM
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lagwin1980 wrote:
Nope, GGG have already partialy fixed snap shotting they know that it can still be abused but until they fix it fully you are free to do this sort of thing, just as you were free to exploit Auras before the partial fix.


They just don't want to deal too much with banning people I guess.

Other companies probably would have said straight, that if you keep abusing stuff like that, you will get banned.

Each to his own though. Probably it's better for GGG if they don't ban too many people, instead searching for a solution that people in general would accept and doesn't appear to be some form of cheating.
POE 2 got serious performance issues. And so far the devs don't do anything about it or can't do anything about it. Either way it is very bad!
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vixien wrote:
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cyranorick wrote:
He also ssems zo use a makro to drink all 5 potions at once, which is def. not allowed afaik.


they've stated many times it is, but I doubt anything will be done about it.

I like how he respec'd out of the auras after he cast them. That takes confidence since zoning out would reset the auras to a weaker state. Not to mention like an exalt of regrets to redo it all, but when you can get epic look from uber atziri, whats 1 ex when you get items that sell for 100+ ex, right?


This is a hardcore game, respecing is supposed to be difficult.
It's one of the points GGG make to classify this game as hardcore, requiring commitment.

It's strange, though, that anyone playing the path of least resistance trade simulator exactly the way GGG intended can just "wtb 50 regrets" and think nothing of it. As seen here, not even just for a rare respec but snapshot respec spamming several times per day.

edit_quote from GGG
but our intention is that players who want to try substantially divergent character builds are encouraged to play a new character through the game, organically leveling it up rather than just respeccing into it.


Yet, for someone playing solo-self-found, regrets are few and far between and even then are a vendor trade for an alch to attempt to access content (not even thinking of crafting). But this type of play style is actively discouraged, not supported and quite obviously disliked by GGG.

Yup, time and time again, the 'by design' way to play PoE goes against what the game claims to be, while a play style that actually realises the vision, is frowned upon, discouraged and said to be 'not fun' by GGG.

It's the same with maps, end game maps were never supposed to be chained, yet it always was possible by playing the intended way, but impossible for the solo-self-found.

Same with RNG, socketing, gearing, challenge, levelling, crafting.

Now why would a company claim their game is hardcore, make these points on why it is hardcore, brutal, unforgiving, yet encourage play styles that completely negate this while discouraging the play styles that make all these aspects real?

The answer is simple, pretence.
Casually casual.

Last edited by TheAnuhart#4741 on Apr 24, 2014, 8:34:32 AM
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TheAnuhart wrote:


This is a hardcore game, respecing is supposed to be difficult.
It's one of the points GGG make to classify this game as hardcore, requiring commitment.

It's strange, though, that anyone playing the path of least resistance trade simulator exactly the way GGG intended can just "wtb 50 regrets" and think nothing of it. As seen here, not even just for a rare respec but snapshot respec spamming several times per day.

Yet, for someone playing solo-self-found, regrets are few and far between and even then are a vendor trade for an alch to attempt to access content (not even thinking of crafting). But this type of play style is actively discouraged, not supported and quite obviously disliked by GGG.

Yup, time and time again, the 'by design' way to play PoE goes against what the game claims to be, while a play style that actually realises the vision, is frowned upon, discouraged and said to be 'not fun' by GGG.

It's the same with maps, end game maps were never supposed to be chained, yet it always was possible by playing the intended way, but impossible for the solo-self-found.

Same with RNG, socketing, gearing, challenge, levelling, crafting.

Now why would a company claim their game is hardcore, make these points on why it is hardcore, brutal, unforgiving, yet encourage play styles that completely negate this while discouraging the play styles that make all these aspects real?

The answer is simple, pretence.


So, you choose not to use a significant part of the mechanics (i.e. trading) that the game provides. You then proceed to insult those that do use all the tools available to them in a smart way. And finally you demand support for the way you would like to play. Cute.
This respec thing fix is easy as hell to do for GGG. It's just about re-casting all auras (which are in effect) upon any removal of passive node. There is little to zero excuse for GGG in this case.
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