A Veteran's Proposal for a Self Found League - Poll Included!

I would possibly play poe again if this was implemented but it would splinter the community into basically 6 leagues instead of 3.

i would also like to see legacy uniques enabled.

The idea is magnificent even though I think I've heard a streamer talk about this (nl_kripp) but I might be wrong. But I strongly support this idea and I think it would bring more players to the game by advertising the new SFL.

The problem is, SFL hinges entirely around drop rates being adjusted to what you'd expect them to be in the absence of trading.. and I find that unlikely to ever happen. Personally, I prefer C) as an alternative to D) and E); given how unlikely they are to happen, maintaining orb liquidity will assist in self-crafting endeavors.

Another alternative: G) Add "SFL" only vendor recipes for all orbs. All new recipes, for all orbs. Divines, Exalted, Eternals, and Mirrors included. This also means adjusting other recipes, like Chaos, so they're no longer level-gated.

Proper crafting could replace missing gear acquisition from trade. But the game was designed to be a trade casino, so, not a chance...

Drop rates would not have to be increased for this to work. This is the one thing that absolutely I personally refuse to budge on.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

Drop rates would not have to be increased for this to work. This is the one thing that absolutely I personally refuse to budge on.

Silly of you.

GGG has openly admitted that the current drop rates, especially at end game, are tuned specifically to reflect a trade based economy

So, why would we need drop rates that assume trading between players, in a self found league?

I'm not saying the drops would need to be unbelievably loot pinata, not even close.

I suppose I'll phrase my opinion with a question:

If you were to set everybody's IIQ/IIR at 20/20 at the start of the league, and not tell anybody (cheat the display so it says 0/0)....

Would people even really notice that their drops are that much better than a normal league? Or would they just chalk up their 2 - 3 extra Chaos Orbs (and slightly better gear) as good luck on the course from 1 - 60?

Maybe with Petrov supporting the idea, we'll have less trolls in here flaming it for basically no reason.

GGG has remained adamant on the issue and that will likely never change unless poe sees a massive decrease of players that would be remedied by SFL.

Don't really see this happening. Especially not in a well-balanced and supported manner.

From the continual development and direction of the game I'd say it's pretty clear that the partying and trading playstyle is an integral part of the development process, with content balanced and designed with that playstyle always in the dev's minds and intuitively being considered for possible repercussions.

It seems equally clear that the solo and self-found playstyle isn't being considered like that. I don't mean this in the sense that GGG doesn't care about solo and self-found players, I do believe they do. Rather I mean that the consideration of said playstyle doesn't come intuitively, it's not an integral part of the development process.

As such, even if this league was implemented, I don't see it going well. It wouldn't be balanced well, it wouldn't be supported well. Among the leagues it would hold exactly the same position as the solo and self-found playstyle currently does. An important playstyle but not one intuitively understood and taken into account by the developers.

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Charanjaydemyr wrote:

Money? Easy.

They charge for these options when they implement private leagues.

100% content still free. Ethical model remains intact.

Do you mean the league creator would pay or everyone who plays that league pays?