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awesome04000 wrote:
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kolp wrote:
best thread ever...

1- epuff, sorry this got derailed so bad
2- bacon, thanks for you're rational comments. Alas, they fall on mostly deaf ears.
3- awesome, I can appreciate that we have differing opinions, but calling people "low iq noobs, scrubs", etc makes you look angry and bitter. Grow up. Honestly, most of your posts could be reported and mod edited your so derogatory and flaming.

Lighten up Francis

I'm out


funny how I make a post about how I don't think these items are mirror worthy and this low iq scrub tyrith comes in not even knowing not all suffix are on wands and other slots talking about how I don't know and he knows. and of course you come in and go on about bragging about your items and how I have no clue what high end items are and all that and here you are talking about how I am the one angry and bitter and needs to grow up.

report me if you want doesn't change the fact that all other items you have posted isn't worth mirror. even your dagger at this point with 135ex mirror is questionable.

stop bull shitting your crafting costs like you did 4 months ago. no one offered 50ex for your wand back 4month ago I don't see how they can be worth 150ex now.

and I don't see how thread got derailed considering all ive been discussing was on topic of "mirror worthy items" people don't think your items mirror worthy and you think threads off topic funny how that works


I like how you keep saying all these items aren't mirror worthy. The only person that can decide if an item is mirror worthy is the person who has a mirror. If they use it on an item, they have decided it was worthy. No one is checking with you before they use it lol.

If you have a mirror and don't think they are worthy, fine, we get it. Go sell your mirror for eternal / exalt and craft better shit with 50ex or whatever you think it takes. Many other people have found the items worthy of their mirror, and will continue to...
"The Eye of Ra appears against you,
His force is powerful against you.
She devours you, she punishes you
In this her name 'Devouring Flame."
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Last edited by Wadjet#3943 on Oct 10, 2013, 4:45:05 AM
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kolp wrote:

I like how you keep saying all these items aren't mirror worthy. The only person that can decide if an item is mirror worthy is the person who has a mirror. If they use it on an item, they have decided it was worthy. No one is checking with you before they use it lol.

If you have a mirror and don't think they are worthy, fine, we get it. Go sell your mirror for eternal / exalt and craft better shit with 50ex or whatever you think it takes. Many other people have found the items worthy of their mirror, and will continue to...


QFT, lets all run out mirrors past this guy so he can decide it it was worth doing


i mean, was it REALLY worth mirroring this helmet because there where no RR/BB for sale.

While sales of this mirror go for between 50-80 ex, in the wrong colors i might add.

for me, every slot counts, and for me.. IT WAS WORTH it, now please move along and troll some other thread

Last edited by Tyrlith#3242 on Oct 10, 2013, 5:28:44 AM
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HUGE_QUADS wrote:
Pretty much this. Most of that stuff isn't mirror-worthy. That ridiculous jeweled foil is the only one, that's probably the best item in the game.

And just a warning to all: New mod tiers will be releasing in the future making almost everything in the OP obsolete. LOL @ blowing a mirror on what will relatively soon become old hat.

Before anyone talks shit about me never making mirror-worthy items, I had for a long while the #1 Ele bow on Standard. This was BEFORE Eternals, way before. You couldn't brute force your way to a "godly" item like you can now by RMT'ing or paying 150 fg (exalts were 1k+ back when I made the bow btw). Game is a joke now. All you have to do is buy a ton of exalts for dirt cheap on an RMT site or with FG and you can brute force a "mirror-worthy" item. Before Eternals you actually needed luck, you couldn't RMT/JSP your way to a godly item.

Notice how no one directly replied to the points made in this post, especially the last paragraph regarding Eternals/FG/RMT/$2 Exalts. I don't mean to offend anyone or your items but it's the truth. Exalts are 2 bucks. Almost every "wealthy" player in the game at the very least JSP's. Hell I used to, as well. Never gave njaguar a dime for FG but I used it for trading in PoE and D2/D3. You can say the same for virtually all of the top ladder guys, and also add RMT'ing off third-party sites as well. If I cared enough I could find out the JSP user names of most of the top ladder within a day. Who cares, though? No biggie.

Some of these dudes have played for like 2 or 3 months and have hundreds of exalts worth of gear. Not hard to put 2 + 2 together.

By the way, I spent 5 exalts on lunch today. That's how cheap shit is now. You could skip taking your girl out to dinner, movies, and drinks this weekend and use that money to buy 50 exalts, lol. Do that a few more times and you've instantly become the next "kolp" and can brag about having godly items to boost your ego due to low self-esteem.

It's a shame and there's nothing GGG can do about it. They did a great job stomping out most advertising spam in-game but type in any item into Google and you'll be hit with a slew of RMT sites selling that item. Seriously, type "shavronne's wrappings" into google.
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Last edited by HUGE_QUADS#3234 on Oct 10, 2013, 1:51:45 PM
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Tyrlith wrote:


i love how you continously try to disprove me without any factual backup, you argue like a 12 year old.

Am i wrong? prove it, instead of simply stating so and i might become wiser aswell, the reason you come off bitter and butthurt is because you feel the need to use derogatory words to insult others, while providing no factual backup for your claims.


http://www.poemods.com/index.php?item_type=wand

Wand suffixes
Accuracy (#)
Attack Speed (%)
Cast Speed (%)
Critical Strike Chance (%)
Critical Strike Chance for Spells (%)
Critical Strike Multiplier (Global %)
Increased Cold Damage (%)
Increased Fire Damage (%)
Increased Lightning Damage (%)
Intelligence (#)
Life Gain on Enemy Hit (#)
Life Gain on Enemy Kill (#)
Mana Gain on Enemy Kill (#)
Mana Regeneration Rate (%)
Projectile Speed (%)
Resistance to Chaos (%)
Resistance to Cold (%)
Resistance to Fire (%)
Resistance to Lightning (%)
Stun Duration (%)




Count them bro, 2 affixes reserved 18 possible.
suck at math much ? here let me help you (20 - 2 = 18)




Now imagine, i need to Eternal / Exalt only ONE OF THESE "top mod", and you wonder why id settle for second tier..

Spoiler
Projectile speed +%
iLvl: 14: 10 to 17 (of Darting)
iLvl: 27 : 18 to 25 (of Flight)
iLvl: 41 : 26 to 33 (of Propulsion)
iLvl: 55 : 34 to 41 (of the Zephyr)
Local Accuracy Rating
iLvl: 1: 5 to 15 (of Calm)
iLvl: 12 : 16 to 60 (of Steadiness)
iLvl: 20 : 61 to 100 (of Accuracy)
iLvl: 26 : 101 to 130 (of Precision)
iLvl: 33 : 131 to 165 (of the Sniper)
iLvl: 41 : 166 to 200 (of the Marksman)
iLvl: 50 : 201 to 250 (of the Deadeye)
iLvl: 63 : 251 to 320 (of the Ranger)
Local Attack Speed +%
iLvl: 1: 6 to 9 (of Skill)
iLvl: 11 : 5 to 10 (of Ease)
iLvl: 22 : 11 to 13 (of Mastery)
iLvl: 30 : 14 to 16 (of Renown)
iLvl: 37 : 17 to 19 (of Acclaim)
iLvl: 45 : 20 to 22 (of Fame)
iLvl: 60 : 23 to 25 (of Infamy)
iLvl: 77 : 26 to 27 (of Celebration)
Additional Intelligence
iLvl: 1: 8 to 12 (of the Pupil)
iLvl: 11 : 13 to 17 (of the Student)
iLvl: 22 : 18 to 22 (of the Prodigy)
iLvl: 33 : 23 to 27 (of the Augur)
iLvl: 44 : 28 to 32 (of the Philosopher)
iLvl: 55 : 33 to 37 (of the Sage)
iLvl: 66 : 38 to 42 (of the Savant)
iLvl: 74 : 43 to 50 (of the Virtuoso)
Base Cast Speed +%
iLvl: 2: 5 to 7 (of Talent)
iLvl: 15 : 8 to 10 (of Nimbleness)
iLvl: 30 : 11 to 13 (of Expertise)
iLvl: 40 : 14 to 16 (of Legerdemain)
iLvl: 55 : 17 to 19 (of Prestidigitation)
iLvl: 72 : 20 to 22 (of Sortilege)
Weapon-only Critical Strike Multiplier +%
iLvl: 8: 7 to 12 (of Ire)
iLvl: 21 : 15 to 19 (of Anger)
iLvl: 30 : 20 to 24 (of Rage)
iLvl: 44 : 25 to 29 (of Fury)
iLvl: 59 : 30 to 34 (of Ferocity)
iLvl: 73 : 35 to 38 (of Destruction)
Local Critical Strike Chance +%
iLvl: 1: 10 to 14 (of Needling)
iLvl: 20 : 15 to 19 (of Stinging)
iLvl: 30 : 20 to 24 (of Piercing)
iLvl: 44 : 25 to 29 (of Puncturing)
iLvl: 59 : 30 to 34 (of Penetrating)
iLvl: 73 : 35 to 38 (of Incision)
Spell Critical Strike Chance +%
iLvl: 11: 11 to 20 (of Menace)
iLvl: 21 : 20 to 39 (of Havoc)
iLvl: 28 : 40 to 59 (of Disaster)
iLvl: 41 : 60 to 79 (of Calamity)
iLvl: 59 : 80 to 99 (of Ruin)
iLvl: 76 : 100 to 109 (of Unmaking)
Cold Dmg +%
iLvl: 12: 3 to 7 (of SNow)
iLvl: 24 : 8 to 12 (of Sleet)
iLvl: 36 : 13 to 17 (of Ice)
iLvl: 50 : 18 to 22 (of Rime)
iLvl: 64 : 23 to 26 (of Floe)
iLvl: 76 : 27 to 30 (of Glaciation)
Fire Dmg +%
iLvl: 8: 3 to 7 (of Embers)
iLvl: 22 : 8 to 12 (of Coals)
iLvl: 36 : 13 to 17 (of Cinders)
iLvl: 50 : 18 to 22 (of Flames)
iLvl: 64 : 23 to 26 (of Immolation)
iLvl: 76 : 27 to 30 (of Ashes)
Lightning Dmg +%
iLvl: 10: 3 to 7 (of Sparks)
iLvl: 23 : 8 to 12 (of Static)
iLvl: 36 : 13 to 17 (of Electricity)
iLvl: 50 : 18 to 22 (of Voltage)
iLvl: 64 : 23 to 26 (of Discharge)
iLvl: 76 : 27 to 30 (of Arcing)
Life Gain Per Target
iLvl: 8: 2 (of Rejuvenation)
iLvl: 20 : 3 (of Restoration)
iLvl: 30 : 4 (of Regrowth)
iLvl: 40 : 5 (of Nourishment)
Life Gained On Enemy Death
iLvl: 1: 2 to 4 (of Success)
iLvl: 23 : 5 to 7 (of Victory)
iLvl: 40 : 8 to 11 (of Triumph)
Mana Gained On Enemy Death
iLvl: 1: 1 (of Absorption)
iLvl: 24 : 2 to 3 (of Osmosis)
iLvl: 40 : 4 to 6 (of Consumption)
Mana Regeneration Rate +%
iLvl: 2: 10 to 19 (of Excitement)
iLvl: 18 : 20 to 29 (of Joy)
iLvl: 29 : 30 to 39 (of Elation)
iLvl: 42 : 40 to 49 (of Bliss)
iLvl: 55 : 50 to 59 (of Euphoria)
iLvl: 79 : 60 to 69 (of Nirvana)
Base Cold Dmg Resistance %
iLvl: 1: 6 to 11 (of the Inuit)
iLvl: 14 : 12 to 17 (of the Seal)
iLvl: 26 : 18 to 23 (of the Penguin)
iLvl: 38 : 24 to 29 (of the Yeti)
iLvl: 50 : 30 to 35 (of the Walrus)
iLvl: 60 : 36 to 41 (of the Polar Bear)
iLvl: 72 : 42 to 45 (of the Ice)
Base Fire Dmg Resistance %
iLvl: 1: 6 to 11 (of the Whelpling)
iLvl: 12 : 12 to 17 (of the Salamander)
iLvl: 24 : 18 to 23 (of the Drake)
iLvl: 36 : 24 to 29 (of the Kiln)
iLvl: 48 : 30 to 35 (of the Furnace)
iLvl: 60 : 36 to 41 (of the Volcano)
iLvl: 72 : 42 to 45 (of the Magma)
Base Lightning Dmg Resistance %
iLvl: 1: 6 to 11 (of the Cloud)
iLvl: 13 : 12 to 17 (of the Squall)
iLvl: 25 : 18 to 23 (of the Storm)
iLvl: 37 : 24 to 29 (of the Thunderhead)
iLvl: 49 : 30 to 35 (of the Tempest)
iLvl: 60 : 36 to 41 (of the Maelstrom)
iLvl: 72 : 42 to 45 (of the Lightning)
Base Chaos Dmg Resistance %
iLvl: 16: 5 to 10 (of the Lost)
iLvl: 30 : 11 to 15 (of Banishment)
iLvl: 44 : 16 to 20 (of Eviction)
iLvl: 56 : 21 to 25 (of Expulsion)
iLvl: 65 : 26 to 30 (of Exile)
Base Stun Duration +%
iLvl: 5: 11 to 15 (of Impact)
iLvl: 18 : 16 to 20 (of Dazing)
iLvl: 30 : 21 to 25 (of Stunning)
iLvl: 44 : 26 to 30 (of Slamming)
iLvl: 58 : 31 to 35 (of Staggering)


Sorry epuff, troll needed to be silenced. :C



actually you are right on this. I forgot that although all resist and all ele damage is one affix, they can stack.

still doesn't change the fact that fire trap build isn't nearly popular enough for that wand to be worth mirror especially considering 4 out of 6 mods aren't top tier. you can make another 10 mirror service threads but no ones going to mirror that wand.
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kolp wrote:

I like how you keep saying all these items aren't mirror worthy. The only person that can decide if an item is mirror worthy is the person who has a mirror. If they use it on an item, they have decided it was worthy. No one is checking with you before they use it lol.

If you have a mirror and don't think they are worthy, fine, we get it. Go sell your mirror for eternal / exalt and craft better shit with 50ex or whatever you think it takes. Many other people have found the items worthy of their mirror, and will continue to...



well like I been saying, sure someone can buy mirror and find mirror and use it on your dagger, it still doesn't mean its worth a mirror. its pretty much like a 10 year old girl finding a 1million dollars on ground and using it to buy a pony and you a pony owner saying how their pony is worth a million cuase this clueless girl just wants a pony and is willing to spend a million. while rest of pony ranchers and pony owners are looking at this and sees how your pony isn't worth a million.

no one said anyone had to check in with me at all. once again I merely posted talking about how these items aren't mirror worthy and pretty much you and few other that posted these items are goigng on about how they know this and I don't know that. yet most of those items haven't even been mirrored once, and few times at best.

you talk about how I am crying and bitter and how no one is checking with me before they use mirror yet you are the one keep coming back over and over trying to convince others that they are mirror worthy.


and really you continue to pretend like you are expert on game knowledge yet you are not known for being a ladder or hc player. you are not known for having some amazing build that no one else found out about. you are just known as a crafter with a lot of orbs which doesn't mean you understand the game or the market.

you keep trying to pretend like crafting one of these items cost 500-700ex yet if it really did cost that, how did you end up with so many items and not go broke? a month before I took break is when you started to get rich cuase you crafted those 3 wands which at the time were top 5 wands in sc. one wand sold for like 10ex, other for 30ex, and really good one you had up for mirror service yet only 2 people got it not realizing there were way better wand for mirror service.

if it didn't cost you even 30ex to craft those wands BEFORE ETERNAL I don't see how it takes 500-700ex to craft your items AFTER ETERNAL.


oh and despite how much you are not crying and bitter and all grown up, you continue to come back after pretending like you weren't going come back.


I AM OUT
LIGHTEN UP FRANCIS


edit: obviously my argument against your dagger isn't nearly as strong since its a great dagger and plenty have mirrored. most of them when mirror was worthy 80ex. but rest of your items are not on same level as your dagger. of course you know this which is why you continue to focus only on your dagger and not other itmes you have listed.
Last edited by awesome04000#1627 on Oct 10, 2013, 7:26:06 PM
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Tyrlith wrote:
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kolp wrote:

I like how you keep saying all these items aren't mirror worthy. The only person that can decide if an item is mirror worthy is the person who has a mirror. If they use it on an item, they have decided it was worthy. No one is checking with you before they use it lol.

If you have a mirror and don't think they are worthy, fine, we get it. Go sell your mirror for eternal / exalt and craft better shit with 50ex or whatever you think it takes. Many other people have found the items worthy of their mirror, and will continue to...


QFT, lets all run out mirrors past this guy so he can decide it it was worth doing


i mean, was it REALLY worth mirroring this helmet because there where no RR/BB for sale.

While sales of this mirror go for between 50-80 ex, in the wrong colors i might add.

for me, every slot counts, and for me.. IT WAS WORTH it, now please move along and troll some other thread




and now this [Removed by Admin] is trying to make his point by using some es helm he mirrored a while ago back when mirror wasn't anywhere near 100ex. the fact that you said 50-80ex goes to show you paid about 55ex for that mirror, which is less than half the cost of 135. all while implying just because he thought that circlet is worth it, it means it should be worth it to others. all while talking about how what I don't think is worth mirroring, others should think its mirroring, for most part cause he has an item up for mirror service.

I still don't think you understand [Removed by Admin] there were at least 5 better wands than yours crafted BEFORE ETERNAL yet no more than 30-40ex crafting cost.

[Removed by Admin] although I was wrong about suffix thing, you talk about how you landed cast speed number of times before you hit your fire damage. considering most others would keep cast speed, it further proves my argument that crafting cost doesn't cost what you are claming. [Removed by Admin] and since you said how you didn't even spend 200ex on your wand, I don't see how it can be worth 150ex.
Last edited by Kieren_GGG#0000 on Oct 10, 2013, 8:52:40 PM
I checked out that es helm thread and so call claim of 450ex crafting cost. lol so hes basically CLAIMING to have spent that much like rest of you crafters bull shitting crafting cost to justify their cost and discourage others from crafting. I thought there was more than his words you were referring to when you told me he spent 450ex to for that helm.

so tell me how many suffix are available on helm? still think its wroth mirror now? still think it took 450ex when you yourself said it didn't even take 200ex to craft your sub standard 30ex wand with 20 suffix? theres probably like 1 trapper build to about 50 fp build. and most of them probably building trapper on side cause they got sick of fp and wants to try something new. no ones competing for fire trapper wands and willing to drop 150ex on it.

obviously hes going to lie about his craft cost to encourage others from mirroring his circlet instead of just trying to craft one themselves.



going off topic, for the first time, theres some guy accusing kolp as same guy as this guy spirea. not saying I believe him or saying that is true, but if it was true, I wouldn't be surprised at all. youd be surprised how many people have multiple acc and fake bid on their own items and all other crap to sell their product. his unrealistic crafting cost is in line with kolps behavior. it would also make sense to have different acc to sell mirror service since his whole selling point is CRAFTING COSTS SHITLOAD, JUST MIRROR MINE,

all this guy kolp does is craft and its obvious from all the items he has. just do the math and youll realize if it took 500ex to craft one of these items, theres no way anyone would continue to craft. he would have went broke before his 3rd craft.
This guy is still posting? His keyboard must hate him.
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Blastrophe wrote:
This guy is still posting? His keyboard must hate him.


lol...

I have a challenge for this [Removed by Admin]...


I have about 200ex atm that I can spare. Pick your base item (no armour, just weapon); pick the 6 item mods you want (+/- 1 mod level). I'll donate all the orbs to you, as long as you agree to stream your crafting and announce it in this thread before we start. I have a forum mod that agreed to assist if you don't believe or trust me.

Lets see how many orbs and how long it takes you. You can keep everything I give you.

IGN Karidwen.



And you are correct, all "Kolp" does is craft...I have many other accounts with many other characters mate...2 on ladder (SC)
"The Eye of Ra appears against you,
His force is powerful against you.
She devours you, she punishes you
In this her name 'Devouring Flame."
-Anubis Hotep
Last edited by Victoria_____#1787 on Oct 11, 2013, 9:34:25 PM
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awesome04000 wrote:
I checked out that es helm thread and so call claim of 450ex crafting cost. lol so hes basically CLAIMING to have spent that much like rest of you crafters bull shitting crafting cost to justify their cost and discourage others from crafting. I thought there was more than his words you were referring to when you told me he spent 450ex to for that helm.

so tell me how many suffix are available on helm? still think its wroth mirror now? still think it took 450ex when you yourself said it didn't even take 200ex to craft your sub standard 30ex wand with 20 suffix? theres probably like 1 trapper build to about 50 fp build. and most of them probably building trapper on side cause they got sick of fp and wants to try something new. no ones competing for fire trapper wands and willing to drop 150ex on it.

obviously hes going to lie about his craft cost to encourage others from mirroring his circlet instead of just trying to craft one themselves.



going off topic, for the first time, theres some guy accusing kolp as same guy as this guy spirea. not saying I believe him or saying that is true, but if it was true, I wouldn't be surprised at all. youd be surprised how many people have multiple acc and fake bid on their own items and all other crap to sell their product. his unrealistic crafting cost is in line with kolps behavior. it would also make sense to have different acc to sell mirror service since his whole selling point is CRAFTING COSTS SHITLOAD, JUST MIRROR MINE,

all this guy kolp does is craft and its obvious from all the items he has. just do the math and youll realize if it took 500ex to craft one of these items, theres no way anyone would continue to craft. he would have went broke before his 3rd craft.



wow, again someone thinks I'm kolp, getting funny :)

basically u can just calculate how many prefix and suffix options there are in total for a helm. As for my helm all the tiers are #1, so it doesn't give that high chances to roll em. But surely u can try like kolp tells u to, and we will all have a laugh later on :)
IGN: Spirea

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