PoE Vs Diablo 3 new expansion

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mvm199 wrote:
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I think you dont remember the diablo 3 before 104, before botting made gear available to everyone, and before the legendaries were buffed, and before everyone used lifesteal. All more or less before august 2012. Before the game became more crap than it was, that is. You 'dont need' armor / res in d3 because life steal there is vaal pact on super friggin steroids. But a dev blog by wyatt cheng on diablo fans stated they are cutting life steal by a lot and reintroducing buffs to other healing methods so that no one can faceroll anymore with glass cannon stats. He said himself 'life steal is a big problem right now' Also, not everyone can easily compete in their version of endgame - mp10 - without having total rmt'd bis items. Ignore that too pls

I certainly dont want poe to end up a life steal fest like d3. Before the lifesteal madness, d3 was about who had the most mitigation - dh with perma spamming smoke screen (total godmode) and barbarian with leap ignore pain relentless stormshield armor and res and warcry and NOS / TAN - FULL defensive with painful low dps, were the only act 3 inferno farmers then. Then it shifted to buffed legendaries so eveyrone had 200k dps and 3% lifesteal meant you can take close to full health dmg with zero defenses, and still bulb full again in half a second. Brainless nonsense of a game it became.

But at least not all chars are the same in D3, there are five different chars. Among all players. --> Think I just died of laughter. Every monk is fot / bell, every barb rend /ww/ hota on skillbar, etc. Are you str8 up trolling now?

Again, heavily biased nonsense twisted to your advantage from your end.

Last time I played D3 was shortly after they introduced Paragon levels, but that was way too late and I already had farmed Act 3 for hundreds of hours. So that didn't really remove the boredom, and I made it to Paragon lvl 4 I think. Don't know what happened after that with the game.
Only five different chars becaues you are only a few clicks away from being whatever other "build" you wanna be. Or did you really level up several chars to play more than one build?
I played all chars to level 60 once, cleared Inferno with Barb and Wizard, and had absolutely no clue what else to do in the game. Not saying I didn't get enough playtime out of the game for my money, but considering the huge replayability D2 had (and PoE has aswell), D3 is nothing but a disappointment. Don't see how that is biased nonsense twisted in my advantage, why would I twist anything here, I don't want to win an arguement. If anybody still has fun with D3, so be it, I don't care. Shouldn't ignore the flaws in it's design though when doing a PoE vs D3 comparison in the PoE forums.

I love how people say that PoE has build diversity , I really do . And then 99% of the whiches are low life RF totem spammers and 99 % of the rangers are using the same build as any other ranger just to be able to compete at high end content .

3-4 builds != build diversity

SO in such case Dumpster 3 has more builds available , just saying .
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MadBro_ wrote:
ye sure and still poestatistics still says u have only 2 chars in the ladders... one 61 and the other 71


Damnit ... expertly trolled LOL

He is at level 71 highest, so he finds docks and lunaris hard ? looool
Last edited by mvm199#0755 on Aug 30, 2013, 9:34:51 AM
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skaterboy80 wrote:
I love how people say that PoE has build diversity , I really do . And then 99% of the whiches are low life RF totem spammers and 99 % of the rangers are using the same build as any other ranger just to be able to compete at high end content .

3-4 builds != build diversity

SO in such case Dumpster 3 has more builds available , just saying .

And 99% of statistics are purely made up.
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MadBro_ wrote:
lol guys are u still going on with this guy? his logic is the same of a 5 year old...
just take a loot at his answers


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how come a normal person cant understand loot runs are actually maps , the point is they arent adding anything new but something taken from PoE .. the game who supposedly is inferior to D3...there is nothing to be excited there since u already have had it from more than 1 year here


I said that it is an improvement to the end game and that there is nothing wrong with that? What you state above is pulled from you ***.

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how can a person even remotely compare the itemization here with the one in D3? like really , there arent even half the stats in D3, they are adding class specific attributes? oh ye tell me how will that fill the immense whole in itemization..
now how can u even say i am playing an ES cookie cutter build when u didnt even bother checking..... i am playing a life 0 mf , (started only less than 20 days ago ) char and suprise suprise i have 10 exalts and a lot of items in my shop...


First of all I did not say that you are playing an ES cookie cutter build at all? You are actually verifying what I really said by telling us that you are playing life based with 0 MF. So thanks for confirming my point there

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hordes of other players , are u serious... tell me where can i see the complaints of these hordes of players because i cant see any, telling me to read the forums is kinda stupid really because even if i cr8ed this char 1 month ago i have been around in the forums since CB...and however how can complaints in forum reflect the true nature of the game , wanna check forums ? check the build section then and count me a bit all the kind of builds u find there. Now please please dont tell me D3 is remotely close to PoE please.... I am talking by facts and u are just talking shit..


If you didn't notice then that is too bad, I am not going to dig up posts for you. If you are really active on the forum then you should now. The ranged/melee disparity is actually a beta manifesto item as is desync.

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ye sure and still poestatistics still says u have only 2 chars in the ladders... one 61 and the other 71 ,u cant define a build before lvl 60....your point of view is so distorted because u actually dont know a thing , i gave u 4 examples of how can a tank be built here in PoE but u surely missed that , i can give u at least 100 more different builds right now....like really no worry but since u know so little about the game u wont probably understand a shit


I don't know what those statistics tell you and I don't care. I've been playing a Templar, Duelist and Marauder. Maybe it is because I've deleted characters? Ever thought about that?
100 different builds my ass, they cannot even continue the build of the week

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this is one of the best ones , dude D3 is so bad because it is so easy to buy stuff..players look those epic loot they can buy in a second and they dont even bother to farm for loot , u know what RMAH is right , players in D3 can spend money to get good loot and u call that good?!
people here play to get loot something D3 will never achieve until AH and RMAH exists...


Yes indeed the best one, like the PoE shop indexer. Like I said: The only difference is using orbs to buy the items (orbs obtained by selling items mainly). You did not bring anything against this statement

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oh ye right lol at me said the guy who doesnt even know a thing about the game , lets see dude where is your wealth ? u have none because u dont know how to build one..Take a look at GG items that sell for many many exalts and ask their owner how they got them , crafting here allows u to refine and make god like items. People here either craft from scratch or improve semi good items they have.. U are saying that selling is the way u get rich but selling is the last step , u firstly need to have something to sell...


Hah, says the guy with 0 MF. Ask the guys who crafted those items how many hours a day they play, what build they use and how much MF they have.

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sure u are quite blind right , so lets say it in 2 3 sentences.
Finding upgrades when expecting to build a good char is something that is pretty hard if u only farm to find them , do u think casuals and kids with mom`s credit card which are the majority of D3 players will care that from 1000 hours u needed before after expansion u will need only 900 hours?No absolutely no because they can do the same via RMAH in 1 minute. THE PROBLEM is the AH AND RMAH not the drops...i thought even D3 community came to that conclusion already..


Yes pretty hard, but how hard is it to sell items and buy those upgrades in PoE? LOL: A lot less harder and that's why that's the way to go (again)

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haha ye i made currency by playing and again how can u even say i made them by playin cookie cutter when u didnt even check what i was playing , repeating : i have 0 mf. u actually need to play to find items even if u want to sell...


Yes of course you do with 0 MF. Are you talking in alterations?

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oh yeah wow the look and feel of D3 will change , really? will they actually change all the the cartoony animation or are they actually just making a new act look a bit darker? So 1/5 of the game will be played in a dark environment and that makes up for all the look and feel ,really?


The announcement is not that specific, it reads it will be a lot darker etc. Yes, really
Last edited by Startkabels#3733 on Aug 30, 2013, 9:38:09 AM
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mvm199 wrote:
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MadBro_ wrote:
ye sure and still poestatistics still says u have only 2 chars in the ladders... one 61 and the other 71


Damnit ... expertly trolled LOL

He is at level 71 highest, so he finds docks and lunaris hard ? looool


Dude, those stats do not represent all my characters clearly so you can base your opinions on those stats but they will be false.

And I do not find merciless hard, I just need the right gear and I could post another wall of text to explain it again but I won't.
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skaterboy80 wrote:
I love how people say that PoE has build diversity , I really do . And then 99% of the whiches are low life RF totem spammers and 99 % of the rangers are using the same build as any other ranger just to be able to compete at high end content .

3-4 builds != build diversity

SO in such case Dumpster 3 has more builds available , just saying .


ye sure dude , i guess players that try only those builds by themselves think they are the only one that exist , so u are saying summoners dont exist ? literally noone uses fp or etheral knives with a witch right? tri elemental discharge witches? detonate dead builds , fire trap builds none of that right?

ye cuz u have no idea of some of the most famous ranger builds now? u never tried AA ranger for sure , block spell block ek ranger? Crit build with the new voltaxic bow? Full phy split arrow? elemental roa builds? u surely never heard of them right. Claw shield build? FUll eva build?None of them right , well thats why u think that.
All I see are sporkers and freezing pulse witches. O right that's just me because I should L2P, right
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Startkabels wrote:
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MadBro_ wrote:
lol guys are u still going on with this guy? his logic is the same of a 5 year old...
just take a loot at his answers


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how come a normal person cant understand loot runs are actually maps , the point is they arent adding anything new but something taken from PoE .. the game who supposedly is inferior to D3...there is nothing to be excited there since u already have had it from more than 1 year here


I said that it is an improvement to the end game and that there is nothing wrong with that? What you state above is pulled from you ***.

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how can a person even remotely compare the itemization here with the one in D3? like really , there arent even half the stats in D3, they are adding class specific attributes? oh ye tell me how will that fill the immense whole in itemization..
now how can u even say i am playing an ES cookie cutter build when u didnt even bother checking..... i am playing a life 0 mf , (started only less than 20 days ago ) char and suprise suprise i have 10 exalts and a lot of items in my shop...


First of all I did not say that you are playing an ES cookie cutter build at all? You are actually verifying what I really said by telling us that you are playing life based with 0 MF. So thanks for confirming my point there

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hordes of other players , are u serious... tell me where can i see the complaints of these hordes of players because i cant see any, telling me to read the forums is kinda stupid really because even if i cr8ed this char 1 month ago i have been around in the forums since CB...and however how can complaints in forum reflect the true nature of the game , wanna check forums ? check the build section then and count me a bit all the kind of builds u find there. Now please please dont tell me D3 is remotely close to PoE please.... I am talking by facts and u are just talking shit..


If you didn't notice then that is too bad, I am not going to dig up posts for you. If you are really active on the forum then you should now. The ranged/melee disparity is actually a beta manifesto item as is desync.

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ye sure and still poestatistics still says u have only 2 chars in the ladders... one 61 and the other 71 ,u cant define a build before lvl 60....your point of view is so distorted because u actually dont know a thing , i gave u 4 examples of how can a tank be built here in PoE but u surely missed that , i can give u at least 100 more different builds right now....like really no worry but since u know so little about the game u wont probably understand a shit


I don't know what those statistics tell you and I don't care. I've been playing a Templar, Duelist and Marauder. Maybe it is because I've deleted characters? Ever thought about that?
100 different builds my ass, they cannot even continue the build of the week

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this is one of the best ones , dude D3 is so bad because it is so easy to buy stuff..players look those epic loot they can buy in a second and they dont even bother to farm for loot , u know what RMAH is right , players in D3 can spend money to get good loot and u call that good?!
people here play to get loot something D3 will never achieve until AH and RMAH exists...


Yes indeed the best one, like the PoE shop indexer. Like I said: The only difference is using orbs to buy the items (orbs obtained by selling items mainly). You did not bring anything against this statement

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oh ye right lol at me said the guy who doesnt even know a thing about the game , lets see dude where is your wealth ? u have none because u dont know how to build one..Take a look at GG items that sell for many many exalts and ask their owner how they got them , crafting here allows u to refine and make god like items. People here either craft from scratch or improve semi good items they have.. U are saying that selling is the way u get rich but selling is the last step , u firstly need to have something to sell...


Hah, says the guy with 0 MF. Ask the guys who crafted those items how many hours a day they play, what build they use and how much MF they have.

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sure u are quite blind right , so lets say it in 2 3 sentences.
Finding upgrades when expecting to build a good char is something that is pretty hard if u only farm to find them , do u think casuals and kids with mom`s credit card which are the majority of D3 players will care that from 1000 hours u needed before after expansion u will need only 900 hours?No absolutely no because they can do the same via RMAH in 1 minute. THE PROBLEM is the AH AND RMAH not the drops...i thought even D3 community came to that conclusion already..


Yes pretty hard, but how hard is it to sell items and buy those upgrades in PoE? LOL: A lot less harder and that's why that's the way to go (again)

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haha ye i made currency by playing and again how can u even say i made them by playin cookie cutter when u didnt even check what i was playing , repeating : i have 0 mf. u actually need to play to find items even if u want to sell...


Yes of course you do with 0 MF. Are you talking in alterations?

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oh yeah wow the look and feel of D3 will change , really? will they actually change all the the cartoony animation or are they actually just making a new act look a bit darker? So 1/5 of the game will be played in a dark environment and that makes up for all the look and feel ,really?


The announcement is not that specific, it reads it will be a lot darker etc. Yes, really



OMG READ THIS , i am going nuts here and frankly i dont have the force anymore to express how stupid these answers are , oh god !!Sorry guys i am out ...
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Startkabels wrote:
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mvm199 wrote:
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MadBro_ wrote:
ye sure and still poestatistics still says u have only 2 chars in the ladders... one 61 and the other 71


Damnit ... expertly trolled LOL

He is at level 71 highest, so he finds docks and lunaris hard ? looool


Dude, those stats do not represent all my characters clearly


poestatistics = everything shows

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