PoE Vs Diablo 3 new expansion

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SL4Y3R wrote:

Best of luck. For fun, I fired it up last night. Played for about 10 min. Boring as hell. Lack of character development isnt being patched. Your character is the exact same as everyones

Enjoy.

The only difference between your character and any other character in the game is 100 regret orbs and the gear you wear.

That, and bandit quests. PoE isn't exactly a bastion of individuality either.

You again, still hating defense options like Arctic Armour, Block, Endurance Charges, Enfeeble, Granites, Immortal Call and, most passionately, Armour?
Maybe it's time you start D3 again, try to play without defensive skills ans stats there, have fun. Maybe you even find an upgrade (in the AH), but unfortunately the expansion will devalue all currently available gear completly, because RoS brings max level 70 --> all items lower than req 70 will be crap. That's how WoW and Diablo 3 work. But at least not all chars are the same in D3, there are five different chars. Among all players.

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tikitaki wrote:

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SL4Y3R wrote:

Best of luck. For fun, I fired it up last night. Played for about 10 min. Boring as hell. Lack of character development isnt being patched. Your character is the exact same as everyones

Enjoy.

The only difference between your character and any other character in the game is 100 regret orbs and the gear you wear.

That, and bandit quests. PoE isn't exactly a bastion of individuality either.

Good thing I dont share my tree than with other people eh?

EDIT: But *again*, you CANT even ATTEMPT to play a spell casting barbarian in D3. You have no choice in the matter.

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Lord_of_Error wrote:

You again, still hating defense options like Arctic Armour, Block, Endurance Charges, Enfeeble, Granites, Immortal Call and, most passionately, Armour?
Maybe it's time you start D3 again, try to play without defensive skills ans stats there, have fun. Maybe you even find an upgrade (in the AH), but unfortunately the expansion will devalue all currently available gear completly, because RoS brings max level 70 --> all items lower than req 70 will be crap. That's how WoW and Diablo 3 work. But at least not all chars are the same in D3, there are five different chars. Among all players.

Yes I hate it that then when you take all life nodes possible for a Marauder and get life on all your gear with insane armour stats + Determination I still need temporary buffs like Granites and Endurance charges yes.

Again: Life/armour is UP and players are often pigeonholed to indeed use Granites/Endurance charges/Enfeeble etc. Which are temporary buffs/Enemy debuffs and should not be so powerful that they feel like defenses are designed around them. Buffs like this should support your defenses not make them viable.

That was and still is my point.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

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tikitaki wrote:

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SL4Y3R wrote:

Best of luck. For fun, I fired it up last night. Played for about 10 min. Boring as hell. Lack of character development isnt being patched. Your character is the exact same as everyones

Enjoy.

The only difference between your character and any other character in the game is 100 regret orbs and the gear you wear.

That, and bandit quests. PoE isn't exactly a bastion of individuality either.

Good thing I dont share my tree than with other people eh?

EDIT: But *again*, you CANT even ATTEMPT to play a spell casting barbarian in D3. You have no choice in the matter.

Glad you brought up Barbarians.

To all the melee-QQ'ers in PoE:

Please go back to Diablo 3. That's the ARPG you want. You can be the best, most powerful character in the Diablo universe as a melee.

(i don't think people will ever stop bitching in poe until melee users are as powerful as barbs in d3)

Wow superb solution, tell your customers to go elsewhere with their complains and keep seeing those complains as individual complains of people that do not know how to play.

That's the way to go: I'm fine, you're not (+ all the other people complaining)>You should L2P.

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Lord_of_Error wrote:

You again, still hating defense options like Arctic Armour, Block, Endurance Charges, Enfeeble, Granites, Immortal Call and, most passionately, Armour?
Maybe it's time you start D3 again, try to play without defensive skills ans stats there, have fun. Maybe you even find an upgrade (in the AH), but unfortunately the expansion will devalue all currently available gear completly, because RoS brings max level 70 --> all items lower than req 70 will be crap. That's how WoW and Diablo 3 work. But at least not all chars are the same in D3, there are five different chars. Among all players.

I think you dont remember the diablo 3 before 104, before botting made gear available to everyone, and before the legendaries were buffed, and before everyone used lifesteal. All more or less before august 2012. Before the game became more crap than it was, that is. You 'dont need' armor / res in d3 because life steal there is vaal pact on super friggin steroids. But a dev blog by wyatt cheng on diablo fans stated they are cutting life steal by a lot and reintroducing buffs to other healing methods so that no one can faceroll anymore with glass cannon stats. He said himself 'life steal is a big problem right now' Also, not everyone can easily compete in their version of endgame - mp10 - without having total rmt'd bis items. Ignore that too pls

I certainly dont want poe to end up a life steal fest like d3. Before the lifesteal madness, d3 was about who had the most mitigation - dh with perma spamming smoke screen (total godmode) and barbarian with leap ignore pain relentless stormshield armor and res and warcry and NOS / TAN - FULL defensive with painful low dps, were the only act 3 inferno farmers then. Then it shifted to buffed legendaries so eveyrone had 200k dps and 3% lifesteal meant you can take close to full health dmg with zero defenses, and still bulb full again in half a second. Brainless nonsense of a game it became.

But at least not all chars are the same in D3, there are five different chars. Among all players. --> Think I just died of laughter. Every monk is fot / bell, every barb rend /ww/ hota on skillbar, etc. Are you str8 up trolling now?

Again, heavily biased nonsense twisted to your advantage from your end.

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Startkabels wrote:

Wow superb solution, tell your customers to go elsewhere with their complains and keep seeing those complains as individual complains of people that do not know how to play.

That's the way to go: I'm fine, you're not (+ all the other people complaining)>You should L2P.

If you can't handle not being the strongest, most powerful thing in existence after choosing to be a specific build then yes, probably this is not the game for you.

You didn't see me crying when I painfully farmed through Act 1 and Act 2 inferno on my Demon Hunter while Barbarians painlessly speed-farmed Act 3 and got crazy loot at remarkable rates.

I just sucked it up and kept grinding.

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tikitaki wrote:

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Startkabels wrote:

Wow superb solution, tell your customers to go elsewhere with their complains and keep seeing those complains as individual complains of people that do not know how to play.

That's the way to go: I'm fine, you're not (+ all the other people complaining)>You should L2P.

If you can't handle not being the strongest, most powerful thing in existence after choosing to be a specific build then yes, probably this is not the game for you.

You didn't see me crying when I painfully farmed through Act 1 and Act 2 inferno on my Demon Hunter while Barbarians painlessly speed-farmed Act 3 and got crazy loot at remarkable rates.

I just sucked it up and kept grinding.

I don't think I ever complained about not being the strongest did I? I think I explained my concerns multiple times on the last pages and it involves a lot more then particularly that.

lol guys are u still going on with this guy? his logic is the same of a 5 year old...
just take a loot at his answers

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And what is your point, seems like a very good improvement to the end game? Can't stand that?

how come a normal person cant understand loot runs are actually maps , the point is they arent adding anything new but something taken from PoE .. the game who supposedly is inferior to D3...there is nothing to be excited there since u already have had it from more than 1 year here

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Your statements of itemization in D3 do not reflect the upcoming changes of the expansion, where items will get more class specific attributes and Legendaries will drop more often and are more powerfull.
I really am not going to check out all the details in your profile, I'm sorry. I think it is a common fact that the best way to progress is to sell good items you find and spend that currency on new items in PoE. Unless you are a cookie cutter CI\ES character that can focus on lots of IIR/IIQ. In fact many people who disagree are only replying from that perspective and cannot see problems other players have and therefor conclude there is no problem

how can a person even remotely compare the itemization here with the one in D3? like really , there arent even half the stats in D3, they are adding class specific attributes? oh ye tell me how will that fill the immense whole in itemization..
now how can u even say i am playing an ES cookie cutter build when u didnt even bother checking..... i am playing a life 0 mf , (started only less than 20 days ago ) char and suprise suprise i have 10 exalts and a lot of items in my shop...

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I am seeing bad that is also seen by hordes of other players, again: read the forum and don't make conclusion nearly based on your perc

hordes of other players , are u serious... tell me where can i see the complaints of these hordes of players because i cant see any, telling me to read the forums is kinda stupid really because even if i cr8ed this char 1 month ago i have been around in the forums since CB...and however how can complaints in forum reflect the true nature of the game , wanna check forums ? check the build section then and count me a bit all the kind of builds u find there. Now please please dont tell me D3 is remotely close to PoE please.... I am talking by facts and u are just talking shit..

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Well since you said I've only played a Marauder based on some statistics I can fully ignore this point because I have playerd:

-Marauder
-Templar
-Duelist[/spoiler]

ye sure and still poestatistics still says u have only 2 chars in the ladders... one 61 and the other 71 ,u cant define a build before lvl 60....your point of view is so distorted because u actually dont know a thing , i gave u 4 examples of how can a tank be built here in PoE but u surely missed that , i can give u at least 100 more different builds right now....like really no worry but since u know so little about the game u wont probably understand a shit

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Let's find out, all I know now is that in PoE you also better used the AH

this is one of the best ones , dude D3 is so bad because it is so easy to buy stuff..players look those epic loot they can buy in a second and they dont even bother to farm for loot , u know what RMAH is right , players in D3 can spend money to get good loot and u call that good?!
people here play to get loot something D3 will never achieve until AH and RMAH exists...

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LOL @ you. Best way to get richer is to sell stuff.

oh ye right lol at me said the guy who doesnt even know a thing about the game , lets see dude where is your wealth ? u have none because u dont know how to build one..Take a look at GG items that sell for many many exalts and ask their owner how they got them , crafting here allows u to refine and make god like items. People here either craft from scratch or improve semi good items they have.. U are saying that selling is the way u get rich but selling is the last step , u firstly need to have something to sell...

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No you didn't explain that at all? You made some conclusion that you cannot even make since you never played the new expansion lol

sure u are quite blind right , so lets say it in 2 3 sentences.
Finding upgrades when expecting to build a good char is something that is pretty hard if u only farm to find them , do u think casuals and kids with mom`s credit card which are the majority of D3 players will care that from 1000 hours u needed before after expansion u will need only 900 hours?No absolutely no because they can do the same via RMAH in 1 minute. THE PROBLEM is the AH AND RMAH not the drops...i thought even D3 community came to that conclusion already..

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Haha you get currency by playing? Yes as a cookie cutter ranged character with a lot of IIR/IIQ. If you did not notice or have problems reading: I play as a melee Marauder and had to give up all of that when entering merciless. I make currency by selling items. Again read the forum, read how other players think of it besides the fan boys.

haha ye i made currency by playing and again how can u even say i made them by playin cookie cutter when u didnt even check what i was playing , repeating : i have 0 mf. u actually need to play to find items even if u want to sell...

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yes, the L&F of Diablo 3 will change as well with the new expansion, something you probably missed as well. Desync will be handled? Desync cannot be solved and D3 uses a different system and in D3 there is no desync issue at all. FPS will be handled? O yeah, is that so?

oh yeah wow the look and feel of D3 will change , really? will they actually change all the the cartoony animation or are they actually just making a new act look a bit darker? So 1/5 of the game will be played in a dark environment and that makes up for all the look and feel ,really?

Yea as u said yourself Diablo 3 screwed up mechanics just to deal easily with desync ,
1) there is no hit rate in D3 which make all attacks hit no matter what( cheap move and not realistic further proving my point of D3 being a childish game)
2)u can hit other entities (i hope u know what that means) from way too long distance even if u are melee (again cheap move and not realistic) and i can go on , they even put a cap to movement speed just to achieve that ...

GGG said Fuck NO just to make a good game , something Blizzard will never do since it only cares about money. Yes desync will be handled ! DO i need to remind u this game isnt even released and u even so comparing it with the future expansion of another game . Fps too! forgot we just got a 40 % reducement in game size , PoE has a new staff member which sooner or later will improve all the problems there are with the skills too. Again at least w8 for release to do a compare....

OH and BTW , this thread is so long bacause its filled with the continious responses of us PoE players to a guy like u who just doesnt read anything but keeps bumping the thread with illogical answers.