Bringer of Minions: Not your Normal Minion Build

Nice idea but basically you are giving up 2 armor slots to have blind+chance to flee on your zombies over a normal 5-link


I dont think its worth it at all


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Amiag wrote:
Nice idea but basically you are giving up 2 armor slots to have blind+chance to flee on your zombies over a normal 5-link


I dont think its worth it at all




You forgot faster attacks and added melee phys damage.

So really, I'm using it like a 6-link, with a 7th link wasted on chance to flee (until I can manage to chrome the helmet to RRRB or RRBB).

And I'm only giving up 1 armor slot. BoR has pretty decent defensive stats, so I don't consider using it the loss of my helmet slot.

Though, after considering it more, high level culling strike might be good for the increased damage. I had previously avoided it because I didn't want it to clash with culling MF guy in group and the reduced attack speed.
Last edited by Smodab on Aug 20, 2013, 12:26:01 PM
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Smodab wrote:

Edit: I just re-re-read MI description and it's clear to me now that the minions only explode when the reach low-life. If a minion gets one shot, there is no explosion. I'm going to have to carefully evaluate this node. If I find my skeletons are getting one-shot, I might have to respec out of this. Thanks for your notes concerning MI, I would not have re-evaluated it otherwise.


Keep in mind that, while they do explode when they hit low life, that explosion damage does not just include 33% of their health. It also includes a percentage of their overall damage and (I believe) a percentage of certain gems that were linked to them, even non-minion ones (such as Fire Penetration and Concentrated Effect). In the end, it is one very powerful explosion that could match or even exceed their full health number (so a well linked and passive supported zombie could potentially explode for 100%+ of his health).
Last edited by GoatEatingToilet on Aug 20, 2013, 4:17:00 PM
^ Yes

it is something like

(.33 * Minion life) * (Minion Damage, your total tool tip minion dmg with everything at the moment of explosion) * Fire Penetration(at 0%, a 100 damage fire would be 150dmg, -50% Every point below 0% will add on to that %.)

Lets say a end game zombie has 20k hp(Ive gotten to 25k with chober, sidhe, 20% Q minion life)

.33 * 20k = 6606 * (lets say 200% minon damage) = 13212dmg

Lets say Ele weakness, EE, + Flammability. -160. A mob has 75% resist. -85% resist so its past 0%. 1.5 + .85 = 2.35

13212 * 2.35 = 31048dmg

Now lets add ignite into the equation

ignite does 4/3 of the damage so *1.3

1.3 * 31048 = 40362dmg

+ increased burning damage

1.59 * 40362 = 64176dmg

So yeah 64176dmg that you can proliferate to everything. And i didn't even calculate cocentrated effect which is a multiplier that multiplies other more multipliers.





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mattc3303 wrote:
^ Yes

it is something like

(.33 * Minion life) * (Minion Damage, your total tool tip minion dmg with everything at the moment of explosion) * Fire Penetration(at 0%, a 100 damage fire would be 150dmg, -50% Every point below 0% will add on to that %.)

Lets say a end game zombie has 20k hp(Ive gotten to 25k with chober, sidhe, 20% Q minion life)

.33 * 20k = 6606 * (lets say 200% minon damage) = 13212dmg

Lets say Ele weakness, EE, + Flammability. -160. A mob has 75% resist. -85% resist so its past 0%. 1.5 + .85 = 2.35

13212 * 2.35 = 31048dmg

Now lets add ignite into the equation

ignite does 4/3 of the damage so *1.3

1.3 * 31048 = 40362dmg

+ increased burning damage

1.59 * 40362 = 64176dmg

So yeah 64176dmg that you can proliferate to everything. And i didn't even calculate cocentrated effect which is a multiplier that multiplies other more multipliers.







Well, that isn't that great for a burning build.
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Last edited by Freeslana on Aug 20, 2013, 5:58:16 PM
Add in Vul 1.4*

or

Temporal chains for 8/3 burn boost so 2.666667*

2.66667* 64176dmg

171136.21392 over 8secs
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Last edited by mattc3303 on Aug 20, 2013, 6:19:06 PM
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Freeslana wrote:

Well, that isn't that great for a burning build.


Good thing that is for a minion focused build and not a fire one then. That is potentially crazy damage for just one zombie explosion. You still have X amount of zombies and spectres and skeletons running around to continue to wreck havoc.
Why don't you use a Culling Strike gem instead of Chance to Flee on your helmet?

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Os_Pirata wrote:
Why don't you use a Culling Strike gem instead of Chance to Flee on your helmet?



As I stated earlier, we usually have a culling MF in group, and I didn't want to clash with that.

Own my own, I'll probably use culling instead. I've updated the OP to reflect this.

On a side note, been a really lucky day for this build! I was messing around lunaris three trying to determine if my exploding burning proliferating skeletons were worth a shit (they are! video to follow soon), and I found:



WOOT! :)



Last edited by Smodab on Aug 20, 2013, 6:53:23 PM
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Freeslana wrote:

Well, that isn't that great for a burning build.


Good thing that is for a minion focused build and not a fire one then. That is potentially crazy damage for just one zombie explosion. You still have X amount of zombies and spectres and skeletons running around to continue to wreck havoc.


Zombies with a burning setup won't do shit outside of tanking and exploding. I don't think it's worth it. You also have to keep everything cursed and EE'd all the time to make sure it does good damage, that's simply how burning works. I'd rather just use a straight up damage setup, but that's me.
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Last edited by Freeslana on Aug 22, 2013, 5:01:02 PM

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