General Discussion - Chaos vs Scour + Alch - Forum

" Firecrest5 wrote: You assume that the use of orbs has anything to do with the value of orbs. This is entirely incorrect. ok so lets say i agree with this. what are the values of orbs based on if not use.	Posted by RPIED#7363 on Jul 12, 2013, 12:10:37 PM Quote this Post
" Sheriff_K wrote: Think of it like being paid in $1 Coins instead of $1 Bills. Would you rather, as a business owner, be paid 3 dollars or 3 dollar coins? You won't be able to give the coins as change should another customer come in. You'd be forced to either use it yourself, or have to go to the bank to exchange it. Which is exactly the case here. Since trading with Chaos is less hassle than Alch+Scour, it is valued slightly more. EA IGN: We_Have_Monk_at_Home Burnt out and waiting for either PoE1 League or new PoE2 Classes. Last edited by Sheriff_K#3938 on Jul 12, 2013, 12:11:45 PM	Posted by Sheriff_K#3938 on Jul 12, 2013, 12:10:47 PM Quote this Post
" RPIED wrote: " Firecrest5 wrote: You assume that the use of orbs has anything to do with the value of orbs. This is entirely incorrect. ok so lets say i agree with this. what are the values of orbs based on if not use. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barter Barter is a system of exchange by which goods or services are directly exchanged for other goods or services without using a medium of exchange, such as money. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Customer_perceived_value Value is thus subjective (i.e., a function of consumers' estimation) and relational (i.e., both benefits and cost must be positive values). The economy is not 1 for 1. The value of the orbs is based on what people will pay for them. It is MUCH easier to trade chaos then alch+scour, therefore alch+scour is perceived to have less value, even though there is no functional difference. IGN: Aesthetic_Ashley, Aesthetic_Kong Last edited by whatkey#4044 on Jul 12, 2013, 12:18:17 PM	Posted by whatkey#4044 on Jul 12, 2013, 12:16:36 PM Quote this Post
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" RPIED wrote: Hi, I am trying to get back into the game after a few months off. There is something in the economy that I don’t understand. People are asking for chaos orbs as payment but will not accept scour + alch which is exactly the same thing (actually even better because you can use a scour + alch on a blue item where chaos can only be used on rare). Is there something I am missing here? The only thing I can think of is inventory space. But its just 1 slot different when looking at 30 chaos = 3 slots vs 30 scours + 30 alchs = 4 slots. Thanks for any insight you can provide. they should be valued the same. i guess people are influenced more by the rarity of these orbs dropping. and since majority of the player base has no actual use for their functions but to use them for trading, this wrong perception carried on. but this would change soon as more people enter the end-game content and are forced to roll maps and high ilvl gear. everyone will soon realize to attribute value to this orbs through their function. http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/442549/page/1	Posted by Fedoras#2239 on Jul 12, 2013, 3:23:37 PM Quote this Post
While it is true that obtaining Chaos Orbs is very similar in rarity to obtainining Alch/Scouring, this is only the case if you are fighting in 60+ level zones. The majority of the playerbase (cough cough) mostly from a foreign country people may be aware of, do not get higher than level 25 on their characters. It is much easier for these players to farm scouring/alchemy orbs and trade them up for Exalted Orbs at a rate far higher than many would willingly give in Chaos Orbs. If these players didn't exist or the Chaos recipe included all item levels this would probably not be the case. IGN: InLegendFP	Posted by alkara#0178 on Jul 12, 2013, 5:08:47 PM Quote this Post
" Atraps003 wrote: Alch+Scour is worth more than a chaos. People are just retarded. If a chaos was twice as rare as a mirror would it be worth more than a mirror? Long live the voice of reason! I'm not horribly rich (or even remotely rich =X ), but I'm always willing to trade your Alch+Scour for my Chaos, if only to make Wraeclast a saner place.	Posted by Reashu#5408 on Jul 12, 2013, 5:10:29 PM Quote this Post
" Reashu wrote: " Atraps003 wrote: Alch+Scour is worth more than a chaos. People are just retarded. If a chaos was twice as rare as a mirror would it be worth more than a mirror? Long live the voice of reason! I'm not horribly rich (or even remotely rich =X ), but I'm always willing to trade your Alch+Scour for my Chaos, if only to make Wraeclast a saner place. IGN? I'll take that trade all day long. New Year's Resolutions: - Chicken Nuggets - No More Bullshit	Posted by Firecrest5#0033 on Jul 12, 2013, 5:33:57 PM Quote this Post
" Reashu wrote: " Atraps003 wrote: Alch+Scour is worth more than a chaos. People are just retarded. If a chaos was twice as rare as a mirror would it be worth more than a mirror? Long live the voice of reason! I'm not horribly rich (or even remotely rich =X ), but I'm always willing to trade your Alch+Scour for my Chaos, if only to make Wraeclast a saner place. I need to find people like you to rip off. :P IGN: InLegendFP	Posted by alkara#0178 on Jul 12, 2013, 5:38:18 PM Quote this Post
" Knightmare101 wrote: I agree with you, but its like asking for 4 quarters and getting 10 dimes.. People are just stupid sometimes.. try trading your alcs/fusing/scours into chaos, you HAVE to overpay. so no it is not the same "We believe - so we're misled, we assume - so we're played, we confide - so we're deceived, we trust - so we're betrayed"	Posted by silidons#2211 on Jul 12, 2013, 5:47:54 PM Quote this Post