Hey man it looks like a good build, but i want to start as a ranger and this is my modified skill tree and progress:
Ranger:
LVL34 (work my way to duelist)
LVL62 (work my way to iron reflexes, unwavering stance then blood magic)
Maxed (work my way to Vaal pact, templar tree, static blows)
Its a bit squishier than the duelist build but has more dps.
I took vaal pact since it will help against reflect mobs and the fact i will be using blood magic.
Other than that i will pretty much be following the same gear and bandit rewards.
Should i bother getting iron reflexes since i am 1 skill point away from it?
Will i still be in trouble with reflect mobs since i will be critting a bit?
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Posted bydarklordof1#2636on Jul 24, 2013, 4:38:37 AM
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darklordof1 wrote:
Hey man it looks like a good build, but i want to start as a ranger and this is my modified skill tree and progress:
Ranger:
LVL34 (work my way to duelist)
LVL62 (work my way to iron reflexes, unwavering stance then blood magic)
Maxed (work my way to Vaal pact, templar tree, static blows)
Its a bit squishier than the duelist build but has more dps.
I took vaal pact since it will help against reflect mobs and the fact i will be using blood magic.
Other than that i will pretty much be following the same gear and bandit rewards.
Should i bother getting iron reflexes since i am 1 skill point away from it?
Will i still be in trouble with reflect mobs since i will be critting a bit?
Thoughts?
Well if you're using Split Arrow + Chain, then Life Gain on Hit is better than Life Leech. And since Life Gain on Hit is an instant heal, there is no need for Vaal Pact.
Yes, definitely get Iron Reflexes. Damage reduction is almost always better than a chance to avoid damage in my opinion. The only exception is very hard hitting physical bosses. But even then armor rating isn't completely useless, and it might be the only thing that allows you to survive that hit that might otherwise kill you.
I have no trouble with elemental reflect. Life Gain on Hit is an instant heal, and it gives me up to 950 life per shot. But I also use Resolute Technique so I don't crit. With a high crit multiplier, that might be a different story... But I've never played a crit build past level 60 before, so I can't say what it will be like in maps.
IGN: EmpathicAmoeba
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DavosTheOnionKnight wrote:
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darklordof1 wrote:
Hey man it looks like a good build, but i want to start as a ranger and this is my modified skill tree and progress:
Ranger:
LVL34 (work my way to duelist)
LVL62 (work my way to iron reflexes, unwavering stance then blood magic)
Maxed (work my way to Vaal pact, templar tree, static blows)
Its a bit squishier than the duelist build but has more dps.
I took vaal pact since it will help against reflect mobs and the fact i will be using blood magic.
Other than that i will pretty much be following the same gear and bandit rewards.
Should i bother getting iron reflexes since i am 1 skill point away from it?
Will i still be in trouble with reflect mobs since i will be critting a bit?
Thoughts?
Well if you're using Split Arrow + Chain, then Life Gain on Hit is better than Life Leech. And since Life Gain on Hit is an instant heal, there is no need for Vaal Pact.
Yes, definitely get Iron Reflexes. Damage reduction is almost always better than a chance to avoid damage in my opinion. The only exception is very hard hitting physical bosses. But even then armor rating isn't completely useless, and it might be the only thing that allows you to survive that hit that might otherwise kill you.
I have no trouble with elemental reflect. Life Gain on Hit is an instant heal, and it gives me up to 950 life per shot. But I also use Resolute Technique so I don't crit. With a high crit multiplier, that might be a different story... But I've never played a crit build past level 60 before, so I can't say what it will be like in maps.
Ok thanks & crap i ment Iron Grip, should i get it?
Of course im getting Iron reflexes, its like a staple in most builds lol :P
So i should be looking for life gain on hit rather than life leech? (hence why i shouldn't bother getting vaal pact).
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Posted bydarklordof1#2636on Jul 25, 2013, 2:51:50 AM
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Hi,
I have lvl 48 toon with this build and things are going smooth. Split Arrow + Chain seems to be very nice pair indeed :).
But now I am somewhat stuck at Cruel Oak. He just doesn't want to go down :D. I have to evacuate myself when hp bottles go empty.
I have life leech on frenzy, which is under leveled as are some other gems too, with dps of 577. Is it just too low to get him down or is there some strategy available? :)
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Posted byBaka12oo#2827on Jul 25, 2013, 4:37:05 AM
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It's very helpful for my tri-ele bow build duelist,and thank you for sharing your wonderful thread,davos.
BTW,I'm a player from China,many people like me play this game,but not all of them can know English,so,may I have your permission to post your thread on our local forum?(I'll sign your ID,of course)
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Posted bySwantar#4117on Jul 25, 2013, 4:46:29 AM
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Swantar wrote:
It's very helpful for my tri-ele bow build duelist,and thank you for sharing your wonderful thread,davos.
BTW,I'm a player from China,many people like me play this game,but not all of them can know English,so,may I have your permission to post your thread on our local forum?(I'll sign your ID,of course)
Yeah man that's fine!
IGN: EmpathicAmoeba
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Baka12oo wrote:
Hi,
I have lvl 48 toon with this build and things are going smooth. Split Arrow + Chain seems to be very nice pair indeed :).
But now I am somewhat stuck at Cruel Oak. He just doesn't want to go down :D. I have to evacuate myself when hp bottles go empty.
I have life leech on frenzy, which is under leveled as are some other gems too, with dps of 577. Is it just too low to get him down or is there some strategy available? :)
577 dps should be plenty for Oak in cruel. Maybe try keeping decoy totem down and maintaining max distance? That's how I handle Oak in lvl 73 dark forest map. In my opinion he's the hardest map boss.
IGN: EmpathicAmoeba
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darklordof1 wrote:
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DavosTheOnionKnight wrote:
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darklordof1 wrote:
Hey man it looks like a good build, but i want to start as a ranger and this is my modified skill tree and progress:
Ranger:
LVL34 (work my way to duelist)
LVL62 (work my way to iron reflexes, unwavering stance then blood magic)
Maxed (work my way to Vaal pact, templar tree, static blows)
Its a bit squishier than the duelist build but has more dps.
I took vaal pact since it will help against reflect mobs and the fact i will be using blood magic.
Other than that i will pretty much be following the same gear and bandit rewards.
Should i bother getting iron reflexes since i am 1 skill point away from it?
Will i still be in trouble with reflect mobs since i will be critting a bit?
Thoughts?
Well if you're using Split Arrow + Chain, then Life Gain on Hit is better than Life Leech. And since Life Gain on Hit is an instant heal, there is no need for Vaal Pact.
Yes, definitely get Iron Reflexes. Damage reduction is almost always better than a chance to avoid damage in my opinion. The only exception is very hard hitting physical bosses. But even then armor rating isn't completely useless, and it might be the only thing that allows you to survive that hit that might otherwise kill you.
I have no trouble with elemental reflect. Life Gain on Hit is an instant heal, and it gives me up to 950 life per shot. But I also use Resolute Technique so I don't crit. With a high crit multiplier, that might be a different story... But I've never played a crit build past level 60 before, so I can't say what it will be like in maps.
Ok thanks & crap i ment Iron Grip, should i get it?
Of course im getting Iron reflexes, its like a staple in most builds lol :P
So i should be looking for life gain on hit rather than life leech? (hence why i shouldn't bother getting vaal pact).
Iron Grip isn't worth getting if you have a tri-ele bow. I have around 350 strength and it only adds about 40 dps to my SA. Definitely not worth the points. Yes once you have chain and at least gem level 10 on SA, LGOH is better than life leech. Quality helps a lot too. Try to get a 20% LGOH gem if possible.
IGN: EmpathicAmoeba
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Davos, I'm still at level 20 and looking at what others just posted, I wonder if it wouldn't be a good idea for me to follow the same build using the ranger route.
I'd still like to hear your opinion on pros and cons of choosing a ranger for this build. The only con appears to be attack speed, but you may have a better holistic view..
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Posted byxqflint#0181on Jul 25, 2013, 7:28:24 PM
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xqflint wrote:
Davos, I'm still at level 20 and looking at what others just posted, I wonder if it wouldn't be a good idea for me to follow the same build using the ranger route.
I'd still like to hear your opinion on pros and cons of choosing a ranger for this build. The only con appears to be attack speed, but you may have a better holistic view..
Well you'll most likely want to pick up all of the duelist projectile damage/attack speed nodes that my build takes even if you start as ranger. So the only benefit to playing a ranger is being forced to take those evasion/life nodes which aren't particularly great. The nodes themselves could be argued to be as good as 6% life nodes, but if you want them, you can get them just as easily starting with duelist. All you need to do is drop some life nodes elsewhere in my build.
I really see no other reason to start ranger. The new good damage nodes are physical damage, and the projectile damage nodes are too far away from the route I take to get to Unwavering Stance, Blood Magic, then to the left side of the tree where all the good stuff is.
Ballistic Mastery is good, as are the 8% projectile nodes before it. But unless you spend 3 useless points on mana regen or block and stun recovery, you'll need to waste one point on an accuracy node to get it. I just find that you'd need to skip out on the duelist nodes if you want to start as a ranger and take those 5 nodes up top then start at the bottom half of the ranger tree to work your way down into Iron Reflexes then left.
IGN: EmpathicAmoeba Last edited by DavosTheOnionKnight#4564 on Jul 25, 2013, 11:31:14 PM
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