Path of Exile 1 Gameplay Help and Discussion - Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013. - Forum

The people that are saying only FFA should be in the game should go and install and play through D2 again on bnet right now. The exact same problems FFA causes for D2 will be in POE. The first one being that you are stuck in specific builds/classes if you actually want to get loot. For D2 your first character is pretty much mandatory to be a Sorc (Due to high mobility from teleport) if you actually want to get items in any timely manner. I feel that it will be similar in POE where if you want to play public games and competitively get loot you are required to have a high mobility and durable build. The second thing is bots, namely pick-it bots. If you really think 18 people http://www.grindinggear.com/?page=staff (Who most only have Bachelors and half of them are artists and other misc positions) can come up with some sophisticated anti-bot code you are delusional. The current loot system encourages using scripts/bots to parse and grab loot from other players. Something as simple as having loot options other then FFA would put a complete halt to pick-it bots in public games. Sure this doesn't stop all botting, but it would stop the ones that are more damaging to the game (the ones in public games). If you need any proof of these problems, again just log onto D2 bnet and join a public game, 99% of them are going to be bots or people using pick-it. Last edited by Dinin#1613 on Jan 9, 2013, 2:20:59 PM	Posted by Dinin#1613 on Jan 9, 2013, 2:20:24 PM Quote this Post
Ill just add my thoughts here: Why i almost never join public parties: Biggest reason: FFA looting, i dont want my loot getting stolen by some bully/jerk Pubparty team member. Last time i checked, Team member = helps me. Interesting concept right? I mean its not like i wanted that mirror of kalandra... nah clearly the best looting is a mad dash through enemies as a caster/ranger to try to reach it before the other team members... I really dont get how instanced looting is bad. Its even possible to have a FFA leagues and IL (Instanced Loot) Leagues. Or party "Loot options". Or make it so that items that are locked to another char upon drop can be seen by other party members but not picked up at all, forever. Last edited by Planetsurvival#1516 on Jan 9, 2013, 2:32:04 PM	Posted by Planetsurvival#1516 on Jan 9, 2013, 2:27:16 PM Quote this Post
I thought I read somewhere on this site that they might allow you to change the time on the loot before it gets FFA? Was I dreaming this or what? :3	Posted by yoshichan#0080 on Jan 9, 2013, 2:30:18 PM Quote this Post
" yoshichan wrote: I thought I read somewhere on this site that they might allow you to change the time on the loot before it gets FFA? Was I dreaming this or what? :3 They were thinking of allowing the players to change the Desync->disconnect time IIRC.	Posted by SL4Y3R#7487 on Jan 9, 2013, 2:41:10 PM Banned Quote this Post
" Planetsurvival wrote: FFA looting, i dont want my loot getting stolen Big misconception here. It is not your loot until it is in your inventory. When loot has your name on it you have the privilege to pick it up first if you are fast enough, nothing more. Disregard witches, aquire currency.	Posted by dust7#2748 on Jan 9, 2013, 2:44:51 PM Alpha Member Quote this Post
" Xaxyx wrote: Here's another thought for your consideration, would-be defenders of tense, cut-throat douchebaggery. First, I'll arbitrarily invent wholly nonsensical categories, and just as arbitrarily lump large groups of people into these categories: Let GREENS be players who prefer an environment of fairly distributed loot, wherein the system itself allocates said loot, thus preventing any sort of intra-party drama and struggle over loot allocation. Let REDS be players who receive a deep, vast, nipple-tingling thrill at the idea of players in a "party" all fawning and clawing over every single piece of gear that hits the ground in a carnivorous fray of greed and drool. Let's also arbitrarily posit that all GREEN players of this game are disgusted at the idea of ever finding themselves in a party with a RED. Thus, all GREENS can and will simply play solo games to avoid any such circumstance. However, GREENS would in fact adventure in groups if they could be guaranteed that they would never find themselves in a RED situation -- such as allowing them the option of creating GREEN-ruleset games, or creating and/or joining a GREEN-ruleset league. Given all of this arbitrariness, I posit a question to you, you fine, upstanding REDS of PoE: WHAT in the HELL would you CARE?! How would YOUR play experience be detracted in the slightest if we GREENS could all scurry off and hide in our own, GREEN-only games, as opposed to what we do now, which is to scurry off and hide in our own, solo games? Before you came along, this thread was at best a civil discussion, at worst some bad arguments. You are.not helping in the slightest make your case. If anything, you're making yourself look like, "douchebaggery". Grow up, and have a civil discussion like an adult. Or go someplace else.	Posted by SL4Y3R#7487 on Jan 9, 2013, 2:48:42 PM Banned Quote this Post
" dust7 wrote: Big misconception here. It is not your loot until it is in your inventory. When loot has your name on it you have the privilege to pick it up first if you are fast enough, nothing more. Big misconception here. If I'm playing by myself, and an item falls onto the ground, it's mine. I can pick it up, drop it again, run circles around it, drive down to the drug store and back, and look, it's still my loot. It's never, ever yours. Never. So what's being asked here is: if we extend that model to wherein EACH player has HIS loot fall to the ground SOLELY for him -- JUST LIKE WE CAN DO RIGHT NOW IN A SOLO GAME (just like we can do right now in a solo game [right now!]) -- but in a group setting, how many baby Jesus rabbits will die? GREENS vs. REDS: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/392/page/246#p811501 The Prisoner's Dilemma: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/392/page/262#p813428 Lethal_papercut's discussion with Chris: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/392/page/235#p806542	Posted by Xaxyx#3372 on Jan 9, 2013, 2:49:32 PM Quote this Post
" SL4Y3R wrote: Grow up, and have a civil discussion like an adult. Or go someplace else. Answer the question, or admit that you can't. GREENS vs. REDS: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/392/page/246#p811501 The Prisoner's Dilemma: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/392/page/262#p813428 Lethal_papercut's discussion with Chris: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/392/page/235#p806542	Posted by Xaxyx#3372 on Jan 9, 2013, 2:50:04 PM Quote this Post
Xaxyx, I feel that the problem with everyone getting their own loot would be that the market would become inflated. Unless you mean that only one person would get x loot from y enemy, and the rest would see nothing at all (and it would randomize each monster you kill).	Posted by yoshichan#0080 on Jan 9, 2013, 2:54:49 PM Quote this Post
" Xaxyx wrote: " dust7 wrote: Big misconception here. It is not your loot until it is in your inventory. When loot has your name on it you have the privilege to pick it up first if you are fast enough, nothing more. Big misconception here. If I'm playing by myself, and an item falls onto the ground, it's mine. I can pick it up, drop it again, run circles around it, drive down to the drug store and back, and look, it's still my loot. It's never, ever yours. Never. So what's being asked here is: if we extend that model to wherein EACH player has HIS loot fall to the ground SOLELY for him -- JUST LIKE WE CAN DO RIGHT NOW IN A SOLO GAME (just like we can do right now in a solo game [right now!]) -- but in a group setting, how many baby Jesus rabbits will die? I can proof that it's not your loot until it is in your inventory when you play in a party: because someone else can pick it up. Disregard witches, aquire currency.	Posted by dust7#2748 on Jan 9, 2013, 2:55:32 PM Alpha Member Quote this Post