The Debate Over Experience Point Loss
" Considering you have the life mastery allocated despite having life on your body armour(again) I doubt you'd notice those 3 skill points. |
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"Cooked alive. Oof. Last edited by Celestriad#0304 on Aug 3, 2025, 5:52:10 AM
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" The problem with using chatbots is that they aren't designed to be right, they are designed to spit out an answer that you will like. Using one as a translator, to a language you cannot speak, is a terrible idea because you have no way of knowing what it is saying. You type your prompt and ask for an output in a different language, and all you can do is hope for the best even though you have zero logical reasons to assume the results won't be poor. The phrase "AI slop" exists for a reason. I have two genuine questions for you: do you understand why your posts are being redacted? And do you know why those specific lines are being removed? Because I would bet money that you aren't telling Grok (or whatever) to insult people, or make passive aggressive comments, or lie and contradict itself... but that's exactly what it is doing, because that's what LLMs do. THIS is why people are criticizing your use of AI to generate responses. It has nothing to do with your language of origin; I myself have been just as critical in the past of posters who started the conversation in perfect English before falling back on their AI crutch. |
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" You just want to shut down this thread too, don’t you? Go check the blocked thread. Before you showed up, we were all talking respectfully and sharing thoughtful opinions. It was a normal conversation. You're fixated on the AI translation and it's messing up the actual point. That's not even the real problem. You just don’t like the topic, right? I didn’t come here to argue. I just wanted to have a conversation and hear thoughts, that’s it. Go read our previous messages—there was no issue with how we communicated. | |
" This is perfect! You are EXACTLY demonstrating my point here: your AI is outputting slop which is demonstrably false. You say "before I showed up" in that other thread, but I'm not in that other thread. Not one single time. As for not liking this topic... I mean, that's also demonstrably false. I've engaged in conversations on this exact subject literally hundreds of times in the past 10 years. My post history is visible to everyone, feel free to check it out. Everyone here wants to have a conversation. What you are failing to understand is that we CANNOT have a conversation when the ideas you are attempting to express are being garbled by a chatbot. Stop using AI slop, and just talk to a human instead. You could even post your thoughts in Korean; I'd happily translate it myself. |
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" Alright, I admit I mistook someone for another person. Because you mentioned AI translation, I kept thinking it was Sabranic_SilverDeth#2793 who was talking about it. I'm the one who confused the speaker—not the AI. This thread doesn’t allow any language other than English. Even if I write in Korean, it’ll be deleted before you see it. I only used tools here to communicate. Like I said—just go back and read. Look at the conversations where gratitude was expressed. Why are you so hung up on a minor translation tool that you’re missing the bigger picture? We can talk about everyday life instead of wasting energy on unnecessary debates. And I truly enjoyed listening to the other person's thoughts during those conversations. There were so many ideas I hadn’t thought of, and it was delightful to hear them. Once again, there was absolutely no problem in our communication. | |
" You called me a racist 7 times because I disagree with your position regarding level loss on death. That may not be a big deal in Korea, but in the west it is extraordinarily insulting. I think there is some very very large problems with our communication if this is the output your AI is generating. Last edited by Sabranic_SilverDeth#2793 on Aug 4, 2025, 7:26:20 PM
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" If it were such a serious issue, you should’ve stopped calling me an AI chatbot. I clearly stated that I’m a human, and yet you kept referring to me as Grok. It was a serious issue for me too. I clearly said I’m a human, so why do you keep calling me Grok? Do you think someone isn’t human just because they’re not a native English speaker? I’m a person—not an AI chatbot! Your words made me think that way. Once again, whether someone supports or opposes the EXP penalty debate is not a problem. Everyone has their own views, and each view has its pros and cons. So we’re just sharing opinions. There’s no need to attack others. Have you seen the conversations I’ve had with other people while expressing gratitude? Was there anyone there who accused me of being an AI chatbot just because we had differing opinions? Don’t use the EXP debate as a way to deflect. The core issue is that you knew I was human, yet kept calling me Grok. I clearly asked you not to do that, but you didn’t stop. If this is really a problem, then just don’t do it again. It’s something we can solve through a person-to-person conversation. Look at the messages where we exchanged gratitude. I had no problem communicating with those people. AI was just a translation tool, and I even used other translation software to cross-check. I know that from a native speaker’s perspective, my language may seem lacking. But I want to clearly say that communication was not a problem. If AI were really the issue, how would I have been able to exchange words of appreciation and have a conversation with those people? According to your logic, if I only raised issues with people who disagreed with me, how could I have used words of gratitude? Don’t do this, my friend. This is a sincere request. There’s no need for us to fight. If you took it seriously, then just avoid those remarks from now on. Again, I’m human. Yes, I used AI, but it was only a communication tool. I’m even open to sharing opinions with you—once this issue is resolved. “We welcome First Impression posts! Please be nice to those posts.” That’s the message in the announcement. We can treat each other like that. That’s all I wanted. Let’s talk. You and I both love this game and want it to be better, right? We just have different standards. That’s totally natural. You oppose removing the EXP penalty? That’s fine. I never said your opinion was wrong. Check my post. I even said to people who want to remove the penalty, “If we remove it, wouldn’t the game become too boring?” So how about we just apologize to each other? And promise not to repeat this. If that helps solve the issue, I’m willing to do that. |
