How many of you have read GGG's terms of service?
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It is one thing to have broad and overarching powers.
It is another altogether to know when and how to enforce them, dispassionately and fairly. Can is not Will. Will is not Should. And most importantly, Should is not even often Will. Especially when it's not in the company's best interest...you know, the bottom line? Do not confuse legal obligation and safety nets for mandates and rules. And, yes. I have read the ToS. Repeatedly. Originally as an ally...later, as something a little less in lockstep, a little more desynced, but no less aware of the fact that this is GGG's house. OTOH they're the ones who let their house become a raging 24/7 party so I doubt they're eager to kick people out unless they really do some damage to the furniture...at worst all anyone here does is put their favourite song on loop at an obnoxious volume and yell about how good it is to people who almost certainly don't agree. I don't imagine many Exiles would make for good DJs. If I like a game, it'll either be amazing later or awful forever. There's no in-between. I am Path of Exile's biggest whale. Period. Last edited by Foreverhappychan#4626 on Aug 10, 2021, 4:35:35 PM
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" Unless the system has changed it's mostly down to reports and manual monitoring. I hope the system has changed because otherwise it's been the same way since Open Beta... And uh...regarding that second one? If you accrue enough probations (which roughly double in duration per infraction) they will just ban you by way of permanent probation. Basically you become too much of a hassle to deal with as a regular drain on Support resources. So yeah, there is absolutely a nono list and once you're on it you do not get off. GGG have made clear they do not approve of my more crass analogies but in this case it's hard to avoid: when it comes to moderation, you are either a red badge virgin or you are in the system. And the former has absolutely no reason to know what it's like to be the latter. There is no clear publicly posted process of crime and punishment, so basically...I dunno, dont do whatever it is they don't want you to do. I'd like to say it's all common sense but I've seen too many casualties to believe that anymore. Apologies for double post. On phone. If I like a game, it'll either be amazing later or awful forever. There's no in-between. I am Path of Exile's biggest whale. Period. Last edited by Foreverhappychan#4626 on Aug 10, 2021, 4:46:22 PM
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one of my posts got edited today,a post i made 5 days ago in feedback. the thread had no replies since so i have no idea how they even found that post now. i really wonder if my name is on some list and all my posts get reviewed once a week or something
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Wait till you hear that your account and ingame stuff doesn't actually belong to you and are only 'lent' to you and that game owners have every right to delete your account without any explanation if they wish so.
I'm not completely sure about PoE, but there's definitely such clauses in League of Legends and Hearthstone. |
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My last probation started on day 8 of my vacation during which I only made a single post telling people why I wasn't posting.
Their reason for giving me probation was for a post four days before that... 12 days before the probation... in which I told someone what I'd rather be doing rather than watch the you tube video he posted a link for with "watch this!" being the only thing he posted about it. |
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" Nope! None of that document says anything justifying their policies here. Indeed it's not even relevant to what was said. If you think it is, you point out the relevant passage that establishes justification for the disbarring of certain topics on here. And I'm well familiar with the CoC, which you've failed to defend. The change which was made, which isn't recent btw, has no basis in the document you just linked above. Once again, point out to me where in that law does it state that GGG is obligated to disbar the topics they've chosen to disbar (which is the change made to the CoC). Also, you've simultaneously failed to explain the inconsistency i.e. why, even within their CoC, they have been uneven in exercising themselves in the application of it. Why some posts that make reference to those prohibited topics get removed, while others don't. Don't palm that off to the mods btw - you're the one saying it's alright, so defend it. Finally, please argue in your own capacity, rather than just telling people to go read some big document. If there's something pertinent in that document, just quote it in your response (with a link to the source) and then expand on that to show how it supports your case. This is how proper argument is done. Cos what you're doing right now is simply wasting your opponents time by giving him some reading material in order to avoid putting in work yourself. Edit:- For anyone else thinking of checking those links out, he's linked to the NZ Defamation Act 1992. Even though the subject of dispute is the disbarring of politics and religion on here. The Act says nothing about that. Yet his argument is that GGG is obligated to censor that stuff, even though nothing in NZ law demands that, and they didn't used to do it before. Last edited by Exile009#1139 on Aug 10, 2021, 6:37:14 PM
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" " I have to push back on this. In a thread where the reddit mods were 'having a discussion' about their rules and policies I asked why certain posts (see their rule 5 with 'lazy sunday' exceptions) are moderated at the mod level - why not just let the community decide, democratically, what is worthy of hitting the front page? I was told that it was their (the mods) subreddit to run and that if I didn't like the rules I could go make my own subreddit. |
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" The Anti-Defamation Act of 1992 has nothing to do with their policies? Did you bother to read the Code of Conduct at all? The whole point of the Anti-Defamation Act of 1992 is specifically to protect an individual's integrity and image from slander, which BTW, you've done already and why your other post got deleted in the first place probably. When I say recently regarding the Code of Conduct, it's been in the last 2 years, and for a video game that's been out for almost a decade, that's still recent for something as major as a change in Code of Conduct. You can try to claim I'm not defending my argument, but you're not understanding that they have the right to delete any post they see fit if it slanders an individual's reputation. Edit: changed you to got due to autocorrect Creator of Dementophobia Name, reward, art and flavor text all my idea, very satisfied with outcome Last edited by V3n05#7692 on Aug 10, 2021, 7:24:23 PM
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" Yep, you're very good at missing the point. You've also failed to do the work yourself of finding a relevant passage as I asked you to. And you've also changed your stance now - previously you said it was deleted because of politics, now you're claiming it was cos of slander. The change made to the Code of Conduct was not about slander, it was about your previous chosen explanation - politics. A lot of the censorship on here is also put down to that, not slander. The Act you linked says nothing to that effect - indeed NZ law as a whole doesn't mandate anything of the sort, which is why that rule wasn't in place to begin with (the Act you linked dates back to 1992!). There is no reason why they made that change that has to do with NZ law. So why'd they do it? Maybe try looking up who owns this company. That might suggest to you an answer... I haven't deleted any posts here btw. |
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