Ultimatum is everything I don't like about current poe.

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Knivingdude wrote:

I've never experienced the content yet since I haven't made anyone new since Delve League, but looking forward to what they bring into the core leagues. It's usually polished and more appreciated when it hits there.

Core is boring because legacy... Like 2 gulp Vinktars and instant leech atziri gloves among other things that you will use if there. Not to mention you have everything if playing awhile... As the whole point of game (any game) is overcoming a challenge it doesn't make sense for large majority.

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Lacceh wrote:

ulti-s aren't 'untested' nor 'unbalanced'. they're very well tuned, actually. very challenging, and I love that. (trade HC PoV)

They are unbalanced relative to the areas they're in. You are either running areas that are significantly easy for your character and enjoying Ultimatums, or you're in an area that is suited for your character and skipping them.

That's what they mean by "unbalanced".

what are you even talking about? I'm running t16 in trade hc, and I usually do all ulti rounds. perhaps players just need to stop whining and get better, play better, improve build.
league challenge should be difficult, otherwise what the hell is there to strive for?

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Marinxar wrote:

You are not alone. Just look at the Steam charts. This league is a train wreck.

https://steamcharts.com/app/238960

where is the train wreck? you're literally making sh*t up.
ritual and ulti have basically the same numbers, even though ritual was the big expansion with Maven etc. so ulti should've had worse numbers. but that's not the case, which means poe still hasn't peaked, still growing.
and from my personal viewpoint: still playing this league halfway thru (trade hc), which is unusual for me.

im fine with the league mechanic but the rewards are actual hot garbage. Only seen trialmaster 5 times, never seen any 10 wave and i do every single ultimatum except stand in circle one

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Aim_Deep wrote:

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Knivingdude wrote:

I've never experienced the content yet since I haven't made anyone new since Delve League, but looking forward to what they bring into the core leagues. It's usually polished and more appreciated when it hits there.

Core is boring because legacy... Like 2 gulp Vinktars and instant leech atziri gloves among other things that you will use if there. Not to mention you have everything if playing awhile... As the whole point of game (any game) is overcoming a challenge it doesn't make sense for large majority.

Appreciated things can still be quite boring I suppose. I haven't played this game for the challenge for quite a long time actually - just playing around with my old character and spending time playing in all the different available places you can visit is what makes it fun for me.

I did make a new character to try out Hardcore Ultimatum and I'm seeing people having fun in chat and helping each other there too. It was nice.

What's a "Vinktars"? instant leech atziri gloves sounds actually amazing.

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Lacceh wrote:

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Marinxar wrote:

You are not alone. Just look at the Steam charts. This league is a train wreck.

https://steamcharts.com/app/238960

where is the train wreck? you're literally making sh*t up.
ritual and ulti have basically the same numbers, even though ritual was the big expansion with Maven etc. so ulti should've had worse numbers. but that's not the case, which means poe still hasn't peaked, still growing.
and from my personal viewpoint: still playing this league halfway thru (trade hc), which is unusual for me.

Same numbers yes... Ultimatum 1 month, Ritual 3 months.

Look, I dont have the time or interest to teach you how to read a chart, but if you are still enjoying the league, I am happy for you. EDIT ( Not sarcasm. Actually serious. Wish I was still having fun with this league. )

My problem with ultimatum is that GGG designs a league mechanic with a "risk - reward" type , but then basicly shits on people who claim the trial master is too rare because they either fail the ultimatus or accept earlier rewards.

I had the trial master once this league, and couldnt fight him because it was 1 week into the league and wave 9 offered me 5ex while the trialmaster fight would have netted me 10 stacked decks.

It jusnt wasnt worth the risk at that time. Instaed of actually making that fucker spawn more often they just slam a "GET GUD" forum post when in reality the league mechanic is designed in a complete different manner.

My only complain is that killing 1000+ monsters rewards like 200-300 max.
I run with rampage and it gets to 1000+ around 7-8 wave.

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Marinxar wrote:

Same numbers yes... Ultimatum 1 month, Ritual 3 months.

Look, I dont have the time or interest to teach you how to read a chart, but if you are still enjoying the league, I am happy for you. EDIT ( Not sarcasm. Actually serious. Wish I was still having fun with this league. )

Oh dear... this can't be real.
Dude. It's YOU who seems to have trouble interpreting a SIMPLE chart...
Look.
Ritual league: 157k peak at launch, 90k after 30 days.
Ultimatum league: 155k peak at lauch, 92k after 30 days.
So it's about the same, Ulti actually doing slightly better.
HOWEVER, you have to consider, Ritual was the big December (delayed) expansion, with all the new stuff, Ulti is a small simple league. With that in mind, Ulti is doing GREAT.

If you stop having fun, it's OKAY to take a break, and no need to announce it either (not aimed at you in particular, but rather in general at the 'omg I quit game is dead' threads). Also you could try HC trade, MUCH more longevity than SC...

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Lacceh wrote:

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Marinxar wrote:

Same numbers yes... Ultimatum 1 month, Ritual 3 months.

Look, I dont have the time or interest to teach you how to read a chart, but if you are still enjoying the league, I am happy for you. EDIT ( Not sarcasm. Actually serious. Wish I was still having fun with this league. )

Oh dear... this can't be real.
Dude. It's YOU who seems to have trouble interpreting a SIMPLE chart...
Look.
Ritual league: 157k peak at launch, 90k after 30 days.
Ultimatum league: 155k peak at lauch, 92k after 30 days.
So it's about the same, Ulti actually doing slightly better.
HOWEVER, you have to consider, Ritual was the big December (delayed) expansion, with all the new stuff, Ulti is a small simple league. With that in mind, Ulti is doing GREAT.

If you stop having fun, it's OKAY to take a break, and no need to announce it either (not aimed at you in particular, but rather in general at the 'omg I quit game is dead' threads). Also you could try HC trade, MUCH more longevity than SC...

Well, agreed. Although I am still playing, and this is a feedback forum. So this should be a place where I can give my own feedback. For me this league is terrible. Not because of the mechanics, but everything that was taken out of it.

I Get why things need nerfs at times, switching meta, curbing power creep and all that good things which keep a game alive, but a lot of stuff I enjoyed got removed. So maybe it;s psychological, since I'm now having to figure out new approaches in my already limited game time, but everything just feel a lot less rewarding. Yeah, you get couple C from every Ulti, but thats always the case for every league mechanic.

As for the chart, I was talking about the daily logins. Was around 33k. Which is very low for after a month, even in a off season with no DLC.