Ultimatum is everything I don't like about current poe.

you guys play with dialogue volume up? Only need for that shit is what Sirus?

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gandhar0 wrote:

Also dont forget the legendary Trialmaster taunts or complains.

He either wants to be a priest of Yaomac (if you win streak) or constantly remind the player how much/few rounds he has done and sometimes hilariously laughs (like mad Joker) when you die after a win streak.

Fun fact: His dialogue state is account-based, so if you get him into a super depressed state after a win streak he will treat your Act 1 character the same way. I pretty much just ran around quarry a few times kicking his ass because if I have to listen to him, I might as well humiliate the shit out of him. After that, never talk to him again.

It really draws a line between him and the other NPC who wants to challenge you: Izaro. Izaro is a total bro who wants you to succeed, encouraging you during battle and praising your victories. Seriously, Izaro deserves more credit for being a nice guy.

Also, yeah, Ultimatum is a clusterfuck and I hate it, it's just more of the same idea of clogging the screen with rare mobs buffing each other until it reaches critical mass and you can't do anything about it anymore. Lazy as fuck design. I want more things like Blight that add unique encounters that require a different approach.

Fortunately I have played this game for a long time and I knew without a doubt that Ultimatum would be somewhat rippy so I built my character accordingly. How easy are Ultimatum's? I don't even look at the rewards because I always finish them (well I have died twice by level 97).

This is a you problem my friend and I don't say that flippantly like the usual forum trolls. Now we are past that, is Ultimatum fun? It probably would have been if I didn't play so much Ritual.

OP have you thought about getting good?

It's an opt in mechanic where you kill mobs in a circle. That's everything you hate about PoE. Okay then. Everything you're describing is self inflicted, seems pretty obvious you're trying to do Ultimatums that are too hard for your build.

Honestly, this league is hit and miss.

The hits for me:
- Love the NPC
- High XP payoff in Ults
- Most of the affixes are easy to work around or can be downright negated depending on build and enemy composition
- The Trialmaster isn't a very difficult boss if you get to 10 rounds

The misses:
- The topography of the arena can make or break the Ult, many of these spawn in tight areas like Colosseum trenches or Arena transition hallways
- VERY easy to get stuck or swarmed
- Shows why Belevolant Guardian should never be a thing in these trials
- Graphical and client lag is very easy to have happen
- Builds center around either high mobility or high DPS that can level a continent or both

I usually end up dying because of either RNG or I get swarmed mid-swing but most of the time I can get to at least 6 rounds. I often bail after Round 6 if I got something on the way that I don't want to risk losing (Divine Orb, Gilded Scarabs, Splinters for things I need, etc.) and only go all the way if I 99.9% know I can win and I want to test myself or the 6 round items are all junk and I don't give a crap.

I seriously think if they are going to patch this for next league when it goes 8%, they should:
- Up the chance that you will get a 8-10 round Ult
- Prevent BG from spawning in it
- Try to make it so they cannot spawn in extremely tight areas
- Cut down the rates at which monsters spawn, there are times where the thing floods with like 10-20 rares or even lag cripples you royally

Why make it easier though? Ultimatum's big hook is that if you kill mobs fast enough you'll get more exp and loot. You'll be rewarded. By making it easier you reduce the overall rewards which are already bad.

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Johny_Snow wrote:

Why make it easier though? Ultimatum's big hook is that if you kill mobs fast enough you'll get more exp and loot. You'll be rewarded. By making it easier you reduce the overall rewards which are already bad.

Rewarded with couple of alchemy orbs, yeapp-yeapp, before quitting the league I cleared almost every single ultimatum and the only really profitable part of it was selling trialmaster's kills in TFT - other rewards were not worth the time I spent doing the league mechanics

And y, I also gave up on 40/40 this league, too boring...

Ultimatum rewards are trash but at least if you do them fast enough half of them not only end faster but drop more things. Sometimes they can be good.

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Achilion wrote:

yup ... especially the awfull trialmaster rng spawn fiesta and conditional challenge for him

+1
I wonder do i manage to get my 40/40 this league due of trialmaster rng spawn + conditional challenges :/