Kaom's Heart, The ''Awesome Button'' of Poe

Well a wander literally can't use koams unless you want a 4L power siphon.

Not to mention low life or ES/life based builds, which obviously want shavronnes or may even benefit more from a ES chest.

Very high rolled vaal regalias have 6l's and 800+ ES, which is actually pretty comparable to the EHP that a koams would give you without forcing you to drop almost every ability you have except for your auras and some curses.

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Lyralei wrote:

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Namenemas wrote:

I'd really love to know where did you get your given survivability. Kaom's is what gives you a shitload of it, and that's why it's BIS for any 2h build/build that doesnt need a 5l or 6l. It's the same as saying that Lioneye's is not best in slot if you have RT, and that would be true if you get an absolutely insane bow, but Lioneye's allows you to use other points instead of RT and the way to it, and that makes it BIS, although it might be possible to get a slightly better dps bow. Even without the hits can't be evaded part, it's still very close to BIS or even BIS. The only time these items stop being BIS is when better items come out, not when the economy gets older.

If you're surviving fine with 6~7k life WITHOUT Kaom's, what does Kaom's do for you? Absolutely nothing. In this scenario you would use a 6L for more resists (Chaos particularly) and the utility of a 6L.

So in this instance you really just ask if you want that added Life or not. The extra Life is great, amazing even (I get 3k just by wearing one) but if I'm doing fine on 77 maps without one, do I really want one?

With kaom's, you can get the 7k without 350% life. You'll never get the amount of HP you'll get from a kaom's from any other item. If you can get a kaom's, I doubt you won't be able to get enough res, come on, I can max out res with bad gear and voll's protector+2h weapon with no res. It's stupid to say that Kaom does nothing for you when you are surviving fine. Why not survive as fine, except with like 3/5 of the hp nodes, or push your survivability even higher. BiS is about pushing it as high as possible, and kaom's just does this better than a rare chest for 2h builds, just because it allows you to either be almost unkillable or make your passive tree 2x more offensive. If you want to stay at 7k life, then from the hp nodes you drop, you can get a LOT of other stats, INCLUDING res. You're talking like you'll never change your build when you change your gear so drastically, but that's just completely retarded. Seriously, think before you post.

Just posting this from another account, that one is not rly safe so I'm not playing there anymore.

edit: forgot to say that sure, for 1h builds, you'll never use a kaom's, but there is absolutely no question that kaom's is BIS for 2h, if you actually think about it or try it.

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Kirarik wrote:

Pretty much any CI build would be one of the few that could care less about Kaom's. Although I can't think of many other builds off the top of my head.

Dual Wield Elemental Cleave (if the player opts to 5l or above)

Dual Wield Claws - Leech/Physical or Cyclonic Elemental

Anyone using a Sword and Board

Anyone Dual Wielding who wants more than 4L

To be honest it is not what I am seeking for ANY of my characters.

My Shadow (Dual claw 68) would rather use a very good 5 or 6l rare. My Templar (elemental cleave based, twisted for cyclone) would rather use a 6L chest and a perfect 6L Carcass Jack (+aoe range +aoe dmg). My CI Witch would rather have anything else. And my "Almost" CI Shadow will be going after Shavronne's.

Is Kaom's damned good? YES. Can someone make an argument that it is the bestest chestest in the who wide world? Yes. Is that a hyperbolic exaggeration of the truth; that making it seem BiS for everyone as if it cannot be avoided? I personally feel as if it is. Because though I can see its' use. I cannot bring myself to care enough about it to build around it. I would rather build around interesting gear pieces.


Alexis
*Smiles*

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Lyralei wrote:

If you're surviving fine with 6~7k life WITHOUT Kaom's, what does Kaom's do for you? Absolutely nothing. In this scenario you would use a 6L for more resists (Chaos particularly) and the utility of a 6L.

i would say look from this perspective with Kaoms you can shit on a lot of lifenodes and get damage nodes in the passive three or resist nodes or whatever you do with 10-20 life nodes

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Laellu wrote:

Did I miss the memo where 1000 hp = 8000 hp, but only if you own a Kaoms? WTF build has 800% increased life?

The items that you mention are good, yes. For some people, they think they are the best. Absolutely none of the items you listed are best in slot. Only rares at this point can do that, unless you have a very specific build.

Powerful uniques and interesting uniques are fun.

FYI, GGG doesn't have a problem nerfing things, and I assume they will continue to do so when terribly out of balance situations arise.

It doesn't automatically give you 8k HP, but it will bring you up from ~5k -> 8k+

I don't think any chest besides Koams goes for ~35 exalts, so there's that. The end game mentality right now is Do you use a 2h weapon? Aim for Koams late game. If not, sucks to be you.

And given how they handled the silverbranch nerf, I don't think that it will fix the problem at all, since it will just make the "Legacy" Koams jump in price, and the patched Koams near worthless.

It's not the item it's the overtuned enemy damage creating artificial difficulty by killing off players instantly, forcing HP spam. since that item has nothing but HP it's value is high.

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Pinchyskree wrote:

It's not the item it's the overtuned enemy damage creating artificial difficulty by killing of players instantly, forcing HP spam. since that item has nothing but HP it's value is high.

Exactly, and till this bullshit gets changed, kaom's is BiS

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Pinchyskree wrote:

It's not the item it's the overtuned enemy damage creating artificial difficulty by killing of players instantly, forcing HP spam. since that item has nothing but HP it's value is high.

Bingo. Armor is utterly worthless at higher levels. Evasion sucks at every level. ES is great but you really have to spec for it and the moment something poisonous shows up, you'd better hope you stacked life. Life is the mod that matters, with resistances being a close second.

Anecdotal, but still: I had a 2h mace in closed beta that had (slightly) higher DPS than Erqi (and at something like 1.4 aspd!). Granted, it didn't have the free +15 increased area of effect ;)

Kaom's is too strong because %life based nodes are too strong, they need to be cut in half and based life gained per level increased to counter it, this would directly reduce the effectiveness of kaom's heart and resolve the life stacking issue at the same time.