Kaom's Heart, The ''Awesome Button'' of Poe
" as an end game player my last ranger had 7k hp 20k frenzy 4k LA 7k armor 85% resist (need party purity) or 20k ish with granite this witch with same standard of gear 8k es 80k Freezing pulse 30k armor with granite 85% resist 7 auras, 15% dodge 30% block or the tank version 10k es 25k Freezing pulse 40k armor 95% phy reduction 85% resist 50% block bla bla bla bla you see the difference in case you think im bullshitting w/e ![]() . ![]() ![]() image taken when i was 75 ish, 85 now dps is 20k x 3 btw, have lmp rangers? played 4 times all sorta builds...wasted more than 1 month on them fml and dumb ppl follow Kripp, Nugiyen w/e popular streamers lols, come on guys, use your own brain Last edited by four4444tw#1631 on Apr 4, 2013, 2:00:46 PM
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I'd take a 6L over kaoms any day.
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Did someone seriously say that Kaom's Heart is not BiS for a lot of builds? Um... Buddy, if you're playing a hardcore shock stack cyclone build, Kaom's is still BiS, Carcass Jack be damned. If you're playing any build with a bow, Kaom's is automatically BiS, because if you need a second 5L, you're playing the game wrong. For any 2H melee build, Kaom's is automatically BiS, because if you're wading in, you need those extra HP. For Freezing Pulse builds, Kaom's is BiS despite the fact that you need another expensive unique, 6L'd, to use it best. Kaom's is BiS on ANY build that uses a weapon that can be 6L'd or doesn't need more than a 4L. 2500+ extra life is just that insane.
And don't get me started on Lioneye's. Oh sure, you can theoretically get a bow with higher base physical damage (theoretically, and that's a big word), but in order to get anywhere near the straight-up DPS that Lioneye's offers for physical builds, you have to take Resolute Technique, which removes crits, and sinks your DPS again. It is automatically BiS for any physical bow build. Instantly. Alpha's... Ugh, don't even get me started on that one. Luna's Blackguards - a guild of bronies - is now recruiting! If you're a fan of our favourite chromatic marshmallow equines, hit me up with an add or whisper, and I'll invite you!
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" I think your post is pretty spot-on. OTOH, there's more to the game than min-maxing, and using a Koam's can severely stifle any build's diversity and utility by using it. A 6S armor, with the different combos of links it can provide, is a pretty large loss of utility at best, even if arguably unnecessary with Kaom's equipped. Necessary or not, at least it has a drawback. Also, there are definitely ways to build an HP character that doesn't require or wouldn't use it even if given the option (I say this while using such a build currently). With Lioneye's, however, it's pretty hard to dream up a bow that would surpass it, or build that wouldn't use it (edit: over other physical bows), and that's kinda crappy. "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." George Bernard Shaw Last edited by Koaxx#5143 on Apr 4, 2013, 4:20:03 PM
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"I do. Scrotie's Axiom of PvE BiS is: As builds approach perfection, survivability becomes a given, and the only things that matter are damage and speed. Kaom's is great, perhaps even OP, when the game's first starting out and the economy is young. However, at some point your other slots will get enough life affixes where you will still be essentially immortal, even without Kaom's. And once you hit that point, Kaom's doesn't necessarily compare favorably to white items. PvP is another matter and harder to determine; maybe it is, maybe it isn't. When Stephen Colbert was killed by HYDRA's Project Insight in 2014, the comedy world lost a hero. Since his life model decoy isn't up to the task, please do not mistake my performance as political discussion. I'm just doing what Steve would have wanted. Last edited by ScrotieMcB#2697 on Apr 4, 2013, 4:58:36 PM
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" I'd really love to know where did you get your given survivability. Kaom's is what gives you a shitload of it, and that's why it's BIS for any 2h build/build that doesnt need a 5l or 6l. It's the same as saying that Lioneye's is not best in slot if you have RT, and that would be true if you get an absolutely insane bow, but Lioneye's allows you to use other points instead of RT and the way to it, and that makes it BIS, although it might be possible to get a slightly better dps bow. Even without the hits can't be evaded part, it's still very close to BIS or even BIS. The only time these items stop being BIS is when better items come out, not when the economy gets older. Last edited by Namenemas#3092 on Apr 5, 2013, 7:44:24 AM
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" If you're surviving fine with 6~7k life WITHOUT Kaom's, what does Kaom's do for you? Absolutely nothing. In this scenario you would use a 6L for more resists (Chaos particularly) and the utility of a 6L. So in this instance you really just ask if you want that added Life or not. The extra Life is great, amazing even (I get 3k just by wearing one) but if I'm doing fine on 77 maps without one, do I really want one? |
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The question is essentially: Do you want to have a bit more Resist/another possible 6L piece of do you wanna have more Life? What does it come down to?
Either having.. 1 more skill with many links OR 3ksomething life? I am playing hardcore and i will always choose 3ksomething life. If you're geared for it, Kaoms is amazing. I just sometimes wish my character could use more than 2 skills.. well, anotther small drawback. But when you are doing ~10k DPS to half of the screen, do you really need to push for a bit more or use another skill for anything? My Static Strike Marauder: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1211370
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1/500 to chance it from a glorious is actually not entirely off the charts considering how common chance orbs are.
But in either case, unique's are meant to be build enabling, not specifically stronger than rare's, certain builds work very well with those strong uniques, certain builds don't. No one denies that koams is somewhat more universal than most uniques, but there are still builds that would prefer a 6l rare, especially in default. |
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Pretty much any CI build would be one of the few that could care less about Kaom's. Although I can't think of many other builds off the top of my head.
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