[3.12] Aura stacking Guardian on a budget

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philipma wrote:
Hey hi there, what happens now with new league with all the changes to aura stacking and new cluster numbers?
In your opinion is the build dead?


Got my answer from previous messages, just didnt read above remarks
Last edited by philipma on Jan 13, 2021, 6:36:14 PM
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askaal wrote:
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oxapmc wrote:

thank you so much! waiting for your opinion


Checking your character and this is what I found so far:

1. Your flasks
Get Atziri, its 1c and a shit ton of damage
Bottled Faith is good as well if you can afford it

ps4 is little bit weird with using flasks.
i have used atziri's, switched to urn.
i do understand and will try again.


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2. You are not running RF as far as I can see, and this is wrong
Get it ASAP

no socket for it, unless i sacrifice herald of ice, integrate aspect and socket RF... dont know if its manageable in the current state of PS4 league, and standard is something i dont play at all :)

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3. I would add an aspect of the spider, but I don't think you can fit it

if i remove HoI and add RF, spider will fit again, but as stated above, dont know if i manage

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4. You ave 1 ring missing Catalysts, fix it

ok this is not true at all sorry :)

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5. I assume you have well above 300% AE
So ditch Arctic Armor I guess and replace it with
Divergent Purity of Elements link it with Purity of Ice and Enhance
This should give you shit tons of pen

Div PoE costs like.. dunno.. 100ex on PS4 lol :)
I believe i will not get to this within next days



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6. I guess you better switch to EK
This will require some modifications

and new RMR jewels probably
shall I check RMR ring of blades on PS4? :)

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7. Insightfulness passive cluster is better then Melding for ES

this was really good, directly done it and happy!


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It is quite late, I've maybe missed something, I'll try to check it tomorrow morning once more

this would be really nice :)

THANKS FOR GREAT HELP!!!
Checking your character and this is what I found so far:
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1. Your flasks
Get Atziri, its 1c and a shit ton of damage
Bottled Faith is good as well if you can afford it

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ps4 is little bit weird with using flasks.
i have used atziri's, switched to urn.
i do understand and will try again.


In you profile its show like you have 2 cinderswallows
So replace one of them with Atziri
Replace on of the diamond flask for quicksilver of adrenaline
And ditch life flask in favour of Bottled Faith if you can, otherwise - Silver

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2. You are not running RF as far as I can see, and this is wrong
Get it ASAP

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no socket for it, unless i sacrifice herald of ice, integrate aspect and socket RF... dont know if its manageable in the current state of PS4 league, and standard is something i dont play at all :)


Keep Herald of Ice
Fit Vaal RF instead of Empower or Arctic armor

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3. I would add an aspect of the spider, but I don't think you can fit it

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if i remove HoI and add RF, spider will fit again, but as stated above, dont know if i manage

Aspect of the spider is a craftable suffix, and you don't have a slot for it, unless you change your boots/amulet

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4. You ave 1 ring missing Catalysts, fix it

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ok this is not true at all sorry :)

What do you mean "not true"?
Ring in your left slot converts only 40% instead of 48% like the second does


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5. I assume you have well above 300% AE
So ditch Arctic Armor I guess and replace it with
Divergent Purity of Elements link it with Purity of Ice and Enhance
This should give you shit tons of pen

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Div PoE costs like.. dunno.. 100ex on PS4 lol :)
I believe I will not get to this within next days

Yeah, that one is very expensive)

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6. I guess you better switch to EK
This will require some modifications

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and new RMR jewels probably
shall I check RMR ring of blades on PS4? :)

To play EK you must have Watchers Eye with phys to lightning conversion
And the ring of blades
About RMR - it always depends on the current state of your build
Generic rule - you need to keep your mana pool around twice the cost of your main skill
But the only place you can fit Ring of Blades is instead of Intuitive leap you have
So you'll have to get a passive from somewhere else
You can change your amulet as well, and get one with 6% RMR and a skill (vitality for example)
This will allow you to save a gem slot for something else
As well as have a place to craft aspect of the spider for instance



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7. Insightfulness passive cluster is better then Melding for ES

this was really good, directly done it and happy!


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It is quite late, I've maybe missed something, I'll try to check it tomorrow morning once more

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this would be really nice :)

THANKS FOR GREAT HELP!!!

No problem)
Last edited by askaal on Jan 14, 2021, 4:55:35 AM
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philipma wrote:
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philipma wrote:
Hey hi there, what happens now with new league with all the changes to aura stacking and new cluster numbers?
In your opinion is the build dead?


Got my answer from previous messages, just didnt read above remarks


After doing the math I think it is just not efficient anymore
With very high investments, you can probably get this build to clear 100% delirium, but there is plenty of builds that are going to be better, and with a lower budget
ALERT!!!
Patch 3.13 changes to medium cluster jewels make this build uneficcient

If my math is correct - with new cluster jewels MY character loses 68% AE
and this is quite BAD
If you are on a lower budget then me - you are going to lose even more most likely

You can try to fix this situation with Voices
But I doubt that 1 node Voices suddenly become affordable

And pouring Mirrors into a build just to make it OK - doesn't worth it in my opinion
Last edited by askaal on Jan 14, 2021, 7:33:30 AM
Lol, that ring! Man i'm blind, was all the time looking only at 20% hahaha.

OK this will get replaced immediately.

Next step I consider trying regular RF and then VRF on top, what do you think?

Best advices ever. You are real bro.
oh and about flasks:
on PS4 i prefer to use smart flask feature (if you have multiple of same type, they all are under one button)
it is only my personal thing i know, i could buy enhancement for controller or just "git gud" but i am not really good mechanically and playing piano on left cross of dualshock is too much struggle for me.
so i sacrifice some power of any build and basically play 2 flasks with 2-3 times more charges :)
one more thing: i got now a "Tabula Shavs" (Shavs corrupted to all 6 white sockets)
do you think its worth trying other combos for Arc or did I already hit the best one?
Last edited by oxapmc on Jan 14, 2021, 2:20:39 PM
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Lol, that ring! Man i'm blind, was all the time looking only at 20% hahaha.

OK this will get replaced immediately.

Next step I consider trying regular RF and then VRF on top, what do you think?

Best advices ever. You are real bro.

U sure use both Vaal and normal RF
Normal RF running constantly

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oh and about flasks:
on PS4 i prefer to use smart flask feature (if you have multiple of same type, they all are under one button)
it is only my personal thing i know, i could buy enhancement for controller or just "git gud" but i am not really good mechanically and playing piano on left cross of dualshock is too much struggle for me.
so i sacrifice some power of any build and basically play 2 flasks with 2-3 times more charges :)


oh, I never played on PS and never knew of such things
With this build u just slap all flasks together every few seconds, not need to be precise
but if it is inconvenient for you - screw it

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one more thing: i got now a "Tabula Shavs" (Shavs corrupted to all 6 white sockets)
do you think its worth trying other combos for Arc or did I already hit the best one?


On your level of investments change of a support gem will most likely don't make much of a difference
When you have let's say 500% More damage, having 510% or even 520% will be only 2-4% total damage increase, which is not really noticeable
Slapping HH might only noticeable thing I guess
I am going to make Aspect of the Spider belt..
If I understood correctly it is the only aspect you see as efficient?
Thanks :)

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