Is it normal for buyer not respond after invite?

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cyberthopp wrote:

We already have trade bots, so that shouldn't be an argument. They could simply add a captcha on the in-game AH/CH/market/whatever UI which would eliminate botting.

Can share or pm me where to get these bots so i can see how they work atleast?

These bots are legal with GGG?

If "Vendor Silence" is toxic to legit buyer,
then "Buyer Spamming" is toxic to legit vendor.

So frustrating.

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Zvrs wrote:

If "Vendor Silence" is toxic to legit buyer,
then "Buyer Spamming" is toxic to legit vendor.

So frustrating.

so i already said "Vendor Silence" and "Buyer Spamming formed a feedback loop to make more and more players became part of both (or either one) categories

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henrikfj wrote:

The problem for me as a buyer is this:

Search for whatever you need on poe trade site.
PM the first person and wait a minute - no response.
PM the second person and wait a minute - no response.
PM the third, fourth and fifth person and wait a minute - most likely no response.
Start mass PM'ing 10 persons at a time, until someone answers.
Accept the first trade that pops up, and ignore if anyone else answers (I already spend 5-10 minutes trying to PM 30 people)

Thats pretty much how it always work. Trading is so tedious.

poe.trade is a big fail. The site have a few hours to 15 minute lack. Thus almost certain all listing you saw are in fact sold

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neohongkong wrote:

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henrikfj wrote:

poe.trade is a big fail. The site have a few hours to 15 minute lack. Thus almost certain all listing you saw are in fact sold

Using the wording poe trade site was bad wording on my part. I always use pathofexile.com/trade since poe.trade is so outdated.

Why are legit vendors not happy?
Received too many Buyer Spam

Why are buyers spamming?
Buyers not happy

Why are buyers not happy?
Vendors no respond

Why are vendors not respond?
Not in hideout

Can we stop listing vendors who are not in hideout just like those who have set dnd?
Currently no. This depends on vendor to set /dnd explicitly and most will forget or don't bother to do so.

Vendors can always portal back to trade?
Some vendors will reply and ask whether you can wait, but 9 out of 10 just ignore.
First depends on where they are, maybe in a intense boss fight;
Second whether the price is worth to portal back;
Final nail is a league mechanic like heist just forbid it.

Just maybe, if the official trade site can somehow stop showing vendors who are online but not in hideout, buyers will have more confidence to get a reply from vendor.

Thus buyer no longer need to spam multiple vendors. Pretty sure most buyer don't like to spend time on spamming many vendors in the first place, but no other choice now, period.

With buyer spamming gone, happy vendors come!

Can GGG make it happen? I don't know.
Create an "Auto dnd when not in hideout" might be a good start.

After some tests, i found out whenever you change your presence status (login, dnd, afk, logout) or update item's price it will take about 2-3 minutes to reflect the changes on the official trade site (I only have 1 public tab). Current system is not realtime so tracking player in a hideout or not might be tricky. There's always /whois to find out player location in-game but... prefer to have it on trade site in a glance. Or atleast a whois button click to quick check on trade site.

To stop buyer spamming -> Raise buyer confidence
To raise buyer confidence -> Stop showing vendor is online where in fact they are no different than unavailable

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Liquid_stone wrote:

Try to put 100+ maps at once on trade for the low price and try to respond to everyones request...

If you spent a day or 30 minutes, that is not that big flow of trade request due to low population of Standard, but may be undercut a lot of other people. People may treat you as god to sell them a lot of map (say 20 of the same tier Mesa).

As long as you don't turn in cross league online, this is more ez and lazy way to delete 3000 + map and bank 3000 c

For league however, you better gift the map to guildmate than try to sell map. Either you became hideout fighter, or keep on receiving annoying pm when mapping or Heist

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Zvrs wrote:

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Can we stop listing vendors who are not in hideout just like those who have set dnd?
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Really? So you want that one should stay in hideout until he sold the item he found before he can do the next map/delve/heist/whatever?
I think that will support trade-botting even more since every player is virtually forced to use a second account or trade-bot as long as he still want to sell stuff while playing the game at the same time.