[1.0.1b] Summoner Guide / Minion Guide

This is a Minion Guide, u wont get tips to ur Summoner Build (so far) so every Summoner can take a look and post a Information because this guide is NOT a "build" its more collected information for lazieness :)
Support Gems vary very much from the creature you Spectre .You should have at least alot of Different support gems. like minion dmg and !!! every support gem you think fit the situation!!! Keep them in ur invent if something dies at Maps and u need to Respec. I ll exclude Rarity and Quantity support gems. ITEM SECTION in post nr2 lack of space :)


FAQ - Frequently Asked Question - Häufige Fragen

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1.Which mobs to spectre?
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God Tier

~ Flame Sentinel -Akt 3, Solaris Temple 1/2/3
~ Void Bearer - Akt 3, Docks
~ Carrion Queen - Akt 3 Marketplace/sarn slums
~ Burning Miscreation - Lunaris Tempel lvl 2 - 3
~ Tentacle Miscreation - Luncaris Tempel lvl 2-3

Shit Tier
~ everthing else


2. I cant target my Spectre I have Sometimes 2 same and 1 other spectre
How can i target a corpse ? with they key "A"
Press A and hover over the mob u want to spectre. if there is a big group first corpse target other mobs and make zombies and then if u have the right use spectre

3. My Spectre keeps dying all the time. I loose my spectre all the time.
Try Life Leech is one of the best Spectre support gems in my opinion
thx to budget player cadet who suggested the gem

4. Necro Aegis ?
passive skill tree point which gives all shield bonus to the spectre
recomended 24+ all resi shield , springleaf unique , the unique one i think?
some summoner use this.
in HC u sometimes need the shield buff / resi / armor / max life.
u can recast a zombie , but u cant resurect urself back into HC :)

5.My Minions dont attack enemys at the screenedge. My Minions only attack 1 time and run back to me(AFK MINIONS)
your Zombie / Spectre wait for ur action. If u do a "channel" action like firestorm they only run forward to hit 1 time and come back. Activate ur minions with active spells which need to be recast the whole time. Arc, Ice Spear , Fireball ,Ranged/Meelee Attack, Curses will all activate ur minions.

6.Can i spectre a BOSS mob /Champion? Is it usefull?
Yes u can spectre a bossmob and it will gain the lvl bonus +2lvl for bosses
so its very good to find a boss spectre or champion to spectre. But it will loose all additives it had before (life regen , haste aura , dmg reflect , multiple projectiles)


-7.Remote Mine?
Buffs the Dmg of "Spell/caster" spectres , or nearly every spectre
but NOT DOTS!!!! so far. means no use at Burning Miscreation , Undying Alchemist , Chaos Bear


8.ITEM SWAP ? Forum Question
If I raise a minion with Midnight Bargain and then swap weapons, does the minion retain +minion damage and speed from Midnight Bargain?
Yes it will Remain , Same for Every Unique Minion Item.


9.I Have troubles to LVL as True Summoner to lvl 40.
There are 2 Ways
NO ITEM REQUIRED FOR THIS
First and i think the faster way is Freezing Pulse/Fireball Kombo until lvl 25 than u can start to spectre the Big Fire Bugs at "sarn slums" act 3 with the Projectile from ur Fireball / FP (lvld the third summoner in no time)

Second Way
I read somth about Life Gain on Hit on the Zombies. Merevil can drop +1 Minion helmet with 3 socket. Helps alot. Its not easy i did it with my second HC summoner and was slow. (y i had a 3 link +1 minion helm lvl 15 or so.)


10.MINION INSTABILITY
Shall i take Minion Instability ?
There is a split opinion in the forum. With the right item u can boost zombies to around 22k HP. with the right support gem u can boost the explosion as well. Helps ALOT at boss fights.
It depends on ur playstyle how lazy u are to recast stuff.


11.I have Troubles with Maps. Loosing Spectres all the Time.
See "MAP SECTION" below

12.There are so much Curses which one do i Use?
Depends on Playstyle and Spectre but Vuln helps the zombies and the dogs / BM . Elemental Weakness helps every elemental spectre. Fire Curse - Good for Flame sentinels for the ingition. Enfeeble will keep them alive :)

13.Do your passives increase the dmg of your spectres (Burning dmg/ Spell dmg) ????
. Only minion life passive node and minion dmg (and specific minion nodes) nodes effect the spectre /zombies. All other (Burning dmg / fire dmg / spell dmg / physical dmg) will NOT effect any minion.


14.does your gear have any affect on your spectres (e.g. searing touch-burning dmg ) or redbeak 100% dmg on low life ???

Yes, only items that increase minion life (chober, sidebreath). Use them when you raise your spectres as its a snapshot. Even if you remove your weapon or you ramu after, the life bonus will still exist.
And if the unique himself had "has added XX support gem"
for example thunderfists "gems in this item has added lighting dmg lvl 18"
so it will be added to. overview of these items below

15.does the dmg of multiple "aura dot dmg" stack? (3 burning miscreation will not , 3 chaos bear will not)
No ,
but 1 Burning Miscreation , 1 Chaos Bear will "stack" because its a different AURA DOT DMG!

16.how do they work with ele equilibrium? is it possible to make a use of it?
It works fine and i find that it's a must have. Use it every time you need a boost in damage. Simply cast a cold or lightning spell on a boss or on a rare mob; at this very moment, EE is up and the burning damage is increased. Cold snap or shock nova are just fine. What is important to understand is that its not because the mob is within the BM's fire aura that EE is up and the mob gains +25% fire resistance. No. The only person that can trigger EE is you and not your minion. Its one of your cold or lightning spell that will trigger EE.

17. Snapshot
Cast a Spectre with some Unique item Bonus (incr minion dmg) and swap the item afterwards the bonus will still stay at the spectre. Same for Support Gems.
If this thread gets a Sticky i ll delete this information ;)

18. Do Minions use my IIR / IIQ from my items? AND OR my gems?

Yes, they do use your IIR/IIQ, and, if applicable, linked IIR/IIQ gems. See here: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/42535/highlight/
IIR/IIQ on your character does apply to minion kills. Their kills counts as yours hence u get flask charges. Try running with a dedicated group. The increased quantity will let u see a lot more drops.

Kills via damage over time (e.g. the burning degen aura of burned miscreations) do not benefit from IIR/IIQ gems, though that issue is not limited to minions.

ty to dessloc and mattc for decent english :)

for general info MOBS WHICH SEEM TO CAST - WHICH RLY DO A AUTO MEELEE / RANGED attack

voidbreaders - the flames are spells
carrion queen - the fireball is Ranged attack
Cinder elementals - the rolling is Melee attack
Undying Incinerator - the fireball is Ranged attack
ancient construct - the chaos arrows are spells
undying alchemist - the chaos ball is Ranged attack


ZOMBIES
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Zombies should be in a +1 or +2 minion helmet.Not Necassary but it Helps.
They can act as ur Meat Shield , or as ur Damage depends on the support gem and the spectre / Curses / Auras u are using. Details Below


~ Tank Zombie [Framerate drop factor: None ]

Gems
1. Raise Zombie
2. Minion Life
3. Multi Strike (drop only)
x. Life Leech
x. Minion Resist
x. Added fire dmg


Stats
Time to get: Corpse needed for summoning them.
Attack/Spell :Melee Standard Attack/Auto Attack
Behaviour : they attack as long as you attack/curse/fire a wand
and they got a aggro range for themself,a half screen they ll react on their own.
Survivability : Zombie like :) just read zombie stats /no resi
Since u can Recast them infight and have alot of hp its ur defender nr1
Attack/Cast Speed :slow meelee attack
Dmage Output: low to medium - their explosion make more Damage
Curses: Flammability / Elemental Weakness / Temporal Chains /
ulnerability(burn dot)
Support Auras : vitality,purity,dicipline , haste

Description / Info / Personal Feeling

Every Summoner know them , zombies - raise from a dead corpse have a guard always
at ur side. If u get ingame First time summon them at a save area like Ledge Normal.
They get Decent amount of HP with a +2 Helm as Support since Minion Health also gets +2
The Auto attack is very slow.

Personal TERROR CRAFT!!! late at night
zombies - minion life - minion resi/multistrike - life leech
remembARR!!!
got to test vs cinder
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~ Dmg Zombie [Framerate drop factor: None ]

Gems
1. Raise Zombie
2. Multi Strike
3. Faster Atks
4. Melee Splash
x. Chance to Ignite
x. Added Fire Damage
x. Elemental Pr. (drop only)
x. Increased Burning Damage


Stats
Time to get: Corpse needed for summoning them.
Attack/Spell :Melee Standard Attack/Auto Attack
Behaviour : they attack as long as you attack/curse/fire a wand
and they got a aggro range for themself,a half screen they ll react on their own.
Survivability : around 23000 with the right support. Zombie like :) just read zombie stats /no resi
Since u can Recast them infight and have alot of hp its ur defender nr1
Attack/Cast Speed :slow meelee attack
Dmage Output: low to medium - their explosion make more Damage
Curses: Flammability / Elemental Weakness / Temporal Chains /
ulnerability(burn dot)
Support Auras : vitality,purity,dicipline , haste

Description / Info / Personal Feeling

update 18.8**
New Dmg Zombies , with some support from some special spectres/curses Multi Strike gives out alot dmg with area splash , special with the frenzy apes - not yet in this guide
Dmg zombies from "kripp" was rumoured and praised in the Forums. **
They make fine Burning Damage with their hits and their MI . the increased burning damage gem if u dont have a elemental prof gem you could also use any other bonus fire quests gems.


SKELETONS
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Skeletons Another meat wall OR u can also make some dmg with them since you have alot and they have medium atk speed

~ Defensive Sekeletons [Framerate drop factor: medium- First cast/then low ]

Gems
1. Summon Skeletons
x. Spell Totem
x. Faster Cast
x. Minion Life
x. Minion Damage
x. Chance to ignite
x. Blind

Stats
Time to get: 0 mins - from ur mouse/hotkey :)
Attack/Spell :Melee Auto attack.
Behaviour : sometimes if bosses are "swarmed" some of them will walk
around very brainless
Survivability : Check the stats.
Attack/Cast Speed : Medium
Dmage Output: Very low - just for blocking big waves.
Curses: Flammability / Elemental Weakness / Temporal Chains /
ulnerability
Support Auras : vitality,Dicipline , haste

Description / Info / Personal Feeling

The skeletons - used from every char in poe combined with the spell totem.
the best way to keep u NOT targeted :) Get the Spell totem ASAP with 31 :) will helps u alot with not being busy recasting them.

added faster cast
note : ALL THE FIRE stuff is related with minion explosion skill KEYPOINT

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~ Offensive Sekeletons [Framerate drop factor:medium- First cast/then low ]

Gems
1. Summon Skeletons
x. Spell Totem
x. Added Chaos Damage (drop)
x. MultiStrike (drop)
with this setup skelis have around 300 Mana cost per totem


Stats
Time to get: 0 mins - from ur mouse/hotkey :)
Attack/Spell :Melee Multi Auto Attack
Behaviour : sometimes if bosses are "swarmed" some of them will walk
around very brainless
Survivability : Check the stats.
Attack/Cast Speed : High
Dmage Output: High
Curses: Flammability / Elemental Weakness / Temporal Chains /
ulnerability
Support Auras : vitality,Dicipline , haste

Description / Info / Personal Feeling

Suggested again from Matt - Multi Strike with Added chaos damage u have at least 10 Skelis very fast and if they hit 3 times - calculate urself :)
This results in quite a huge single target dps increase, enough dps to single handily run maps with just a skeleton totem.
*note matt*


For the Gem explanation - IF a gem is NOT in the Specific Spectre Setup the support gem will have NO or very Small effect

------------------------- 1.0 Spectre Section ----------------------------

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~ Undying Evangelist [Framerate drop factor: xxx ]
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1. Raise Spectre
x. Life Leech - just for the cast i looove this game and always lazy to get new spectre
x. Increased Duration (for the superman aura)
x. Incr AOE , Concentrated effect (dmg output for their spell)
x. Remote Mine / Minion Dmg / Added Fire dmg
x. x Support Gem

Stats
Time to get:2-5 mins - Sceptre of God
Attack/Spell : Spell / AOE , And a small melee atack
Behaviour : Buffs first , and then makes his !PHYSICAL! AOE spell
(thx for confirmation)
Survivability : Little Higher than Zombies
Attack/Cast Speed : fast
Dmage Output: medium ~ high Depends on support gems
Curses : .... None yet
Support Auras : vit /purity - what the spectre needs most
Minion Speed : Medium , like Burning Miscreations

Description / Info / Personal Feeling

Nice new spectres. They have a lil "superman" aura , everthing inside stays pretty much unharmed . They rly cast very fast (like flame sentis).

*note* I think with 1.0 they took away a little Cast speed of the flame sentinels

Since they make physical dmg , we take "ethernal knives" as spell we want to push. So added Fire dmg/ remote mind / minion dmg will push their dmg. Faster Cast , Concentrated Effect.

MAYBE - and its a big maybe - added chaos dmg for a wierd dmg output.
AOE Physical / Chaos

Pros
Superman Aura

Cons
not so much dmg output as flame sentis


~ Undying Aristocrat / Lighting Trap from Sceptre of God [Framerate drop factor: xxx ]

** under construction 15.11*
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____________________meelee variation ____________
1. Raise Spectre
x. Melee Splash
x. Multistrike / Faster Attacks
x. Life Leech - life leech will only work with the initial hit of multistrike just 4 info
Correct me if im wrong i tested it alot with the Burning Miscreations.
x. Incr Phys Dmg
x. Added Fire dmg

_____Trap variation__
under construction , check trap projectile with chain / fork
1. raise spectre
x Multi traps
x

Stats
Time to get: 2-5 mins Sceptre of god
Attack/Spell :Melee Attack , Lighting Trap
Behaviour : set 1 trap and begin to melee fight
Survivability : low to medium compared to Zombis/Skeletons/Carrion Queens/Flame Sentinels
Attack/Cast Speed : unknown slow - medium - fast - very fast (TentacleMistress)
Dmage Output: unknown - compared to GOD TIER
Curses : xxxx
Support Auras : xxx vit /purity - what the spectre needs most
Minion Speed : medium

Description / Info / Personal Feeling

Still not much research done. when u target them it says "cast lighting nova" i dont know if their spell/trap - is truly a trap wwhere "multiple traps" come in.
Input appreciated since i started a new league.


~ Plumped Chimera [Framerate drop factor: xxx ]

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Gems
1. Raise Spectre
x. Lmp/ GMP
x. Life Gain on Hit / Life Leech
x. Faster Attacks
x. Added Fire Dmg / added chaos dmg
x. Minion Support gem / Remote Mine

Stats
Time to get: 3-5 mins Sceptre of God
Attack/Spell :Attack , Projectile , ?? 100% Physical?? <-- more research needed
Behaviour : like titty bitches
Survivability : Very Low , they need Constant Potting
Attack/Cast Speed : very fast
Dmage Output: High
Curses : Proj Weaknes for Knockback , Vuln , Enfeeble , Temporal Chains
Support Auras : vit /purity - Defense Auras - Energy shield aura helps also
Minion Speed : fast

Description / Info / Personal Feeling

very new with the new content 1.0 , more testing needed. but not the best spectre from 1.0
BUT with added somth dmg it may get better. thinking about crits from them? do they crit often? pierce and faster projectiles for more dmg output is also a possibility .

as well as find out if its a attack or spell :)

Pros
good dmg output

Cons
weak as ****

~ Croaking Chimeral ,Jumping Frogs - with Arctic Breath [Framerate drop factor: high ]

Spoiler
Gems
** under construction 15.11*

1. Raise Spectre
x. Faster Cast / attacks / Multiple Projectiles Lesser , Greater
x. Life Leech
x. Remote Mine / Minion Dmg
x. Minion Life Minion Resi
x. Cold Penetration??

for Melee USE MELEE ZOMBIE SUPPORT GEMS


Stats
Time to get: 2-5 mins Sceptre of god
Attack/Spell : They Cast Artic Breath and Jump on the enemy so Spell/cold/Projectile
and Attack/melee / aoe
Behaviour : they cast a bit and jump abit - more research needed
Survivability : low
Attack/Cast Speed : unknown // slow - medium - fast - very fast (TentacleMistress)
Dmage Output: unknown // compared to GOD TIER
Curses : Enfeeble
Support Auras : vit /purity - what the spectre needs most
Minion Speed : medium

Description / Info / Personal Feeling

the jumping frogs from sceptre of god. pretty small and anoying. hope we can PUSH the dmg.



------------------------- Spectre Section ----------------------------
Most of these are still correct with 1.0. Inform me pls if i have something to update.
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~Fire Banner / Flame Sentinel [Framerate drop factor: High]
This is the Nr 1 reccommended Spectre trough the Forum with diff Supp gems

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1. Raise Spectre
2. Minion Damage
3. Life Leech
4. Multiple Projectiles/Chain/Faster Cast/Remote Mine
x. Added Chaos Damage/Concentrated Effect(drop) -> should be on 4th place but gems are drop
5. Culling Strike/Fire Penetration
x. x

Time to get 2-5 mins. Solaris Temple lvl 1/2/3
Attack: Spell/Fire/Fireball
Behaviour : Defensive , They run away as soon as they take a hit.
Survivability: Zombie Like with more AI ,
Normal HP ~750 +-60, without energy shield
Cruel HP ~2150 +-100, without energy shield
Merciless HP ~5600 +-300 without ES
Attack/Cast Speed: Fast
Damage Output: Very high
Curses: Flammability / Elemental Weakness / Temporal Chains /
vulnerability(burn dot)
Support : vitality,purity,dicipline , haste , Regen Totem


Description / Info / Personal Feeling
They cast Augemented Fireballs already with LMP/Fork - Depends how much enemys are in range. They have a decent DMG output and cast rly fast. My Personal Favourite since they survive a pretty long time. As long as no Chaos is near. recomended from alot of people around the forum. with very varius support gems. The showing support Gems is for Maximum Dmg output im always open for suggestions , the HP was calculated with a regen totem so its not accurate but its more numbers than "poof" and he is dead :) they have energy shield as well but i dont know how much. with life leech u can take them to the next difficulty stage normal to cruel - cruel to merciless - merciless to maps .
at Maps life leech is essential .
some information they are floating but will die with "ground fire" when cast from cinder elementals check the video below .
and they are big for indoor maps -> didnt checked it further which will fit better for maps input appreciatet
Checkked again faster cast has not so much effect on them . since all are happy with burning zombies and they do already have burning

my personal setup ist
2-life leech
3-remote mine
4-Minion dmg
the crit isnt worth it :)

"20 seconds piety setup"
mine has spectre
2-remote mine
3- concentrated
4- cullingstrike
5- miniondmg
6-fire pen

thx to couscou

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuDJT3PAi6Q

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~Burned Miscreation [Framerate drop factor: None]

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MATT C Setup
1- Raise Spectre
2- Increased Burning Damage
3- Minion Life
4- Minion Res
5- Increase AOE
6- Minion Speed

Suicigobo setup
1- Raise spectre
2- Increased burning damage
3- Increased minion life
4- Increased minion and totem elemental resistance
5- Increased Area of effect
I run a 4 link which is surely viable. A 5-link will greatly help tho

Baalat
My setup (5L) is:
BM:
1- RS
2- Increased AOE
3- Multistrike
4- Life Leech
5- Inc burning dmg
6- (minion life waiting for 6L)


HaleBopp / HaleJesus ingame Setup
4 Link atm Blue Blue Red Red
1- RS
2- Incr Burn
3- Minion Life
4- Life Leech
5- faster atk
6- xxx unknown terror meelee splash for more LL ,
I Need to test their Meelee survivability but lacking a 5 link. would LOOOOVE to buy one in HC , evasion energy shield +mana , the lvl 71

DONT FORGET THEY ARE MEELEE ATTACKERS AND HIT LIKE TRUCKS without support gems.
i get around 500 - 800 dmg at merciless with granite on 11000 armor i ll update more info


Time to get 2-5 mins. Very common in Lunaris Temple lvl 2/3
Attack/spell: Melee/Caster/Aoe/Fire
Behaviour : Like Zombies , same "aggro" range . But not the same amount hp.
Survivability: Between Zombie /seklis
Attack/Cast Speed : Medium Melee Attack, Cast is 1 time.
Damage Output :unknown , i can watch the enemy die.
Curses: Flammability , Ele Weaknes, Conductivity , Vuln ,
Def Curses : Enfeeble Temporal Chains
Support Aura: Vitality , Discipline , Purity

Description / Info / Personal Feeling

Fire Aura Activation : If they are blocked and have enemys on Screen they will start burning. If u cast a Passive Skill they are "more likeley" to start burn. I had VERY good xp with Rejen Totem. Just cast it ALLL the time if the first mob group comes. instead of a curse and or atk. im 100% sure at least 1 is burning afterwards. Update 28.8 Also Immortal Call , Endurance Cry and !!! OUT OF SIGHT!!! helps. they dont need to be out of sight. just hide behind a tree / corner and shoot 1-3 times on the ground (arc/fireball)

Curse : Vuln is the prefered curse if u only use 1 , it helps the life leech , and the aura gem.So its the best Def/off curse cuz it benefits the zombies as well.
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Since they are tested atm, and frequently mentioned we need to boost their Surv and Dmg.
Good way so far is add lighting dmg "shock stacks = +40% dmg" which can be achieved very easy with Blackguard Mages, they cast ARC. A Reccomended Forum Setup atm is 1 BM with 1 LMage
Use Conductivity to get more Shocks from the LMages. Also Vuln helps their burning dmg and alot of info which is mentioned in the "infos" above.
OLDINFO but still RIGHT info !
They cast unrighteous fire which is different then righteous fire. They do not
deal damage to them selves and it seems to deal a percentage based damage.
With elemental weakness things die VERY fast and another flammability curse
means things die almost instantly. These guys are my NUMERO UNO.
Their damaging aura can go through walls.
| Use elemental weakness + Flammability/Vulnerability(burn dot) |
OLDINFO

Video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQyB9HJZKrA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxsAMkYhUDE

TAG TEAM SPECTRE

Baalat Tag Team setup
Arc mage:
1RS
2- Faster cast
3- Inc crit strike
4- Ele proliferation
5- Life leech
6- (minion life waiting for 6L)

HaleJesus Tag Team Setup
MYSELF!!!

Elemental Equilibrium (thx to maxric)
1.ARC Lvl 15 (lvling it atm loong story but clearing speed was too slow)
2.Ele Prof (its like loooool)
and now cuz i play self found and didnt found sh** so far , and 1 curse
3.Mana Leech
4. Reduced Mana
Gives me -oh my- every 2nd Arc casts shocks and procs EE which end in - i cast 1 arc and the enemys are dead before i can cast the curse (no cast speed skilled / on items)
Sum up:
Elemental Weakness -43%
Elemental Equilibrium -50%
Shock 1-3 times -40%x3
Increased BM Dmg with 2 casts (1 second)
+133% to 213% increased dmg in HC , i mention the HC cuz surviving is more important than clear speed. and with luck 2 casts and 213% more Dmg.

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Unknown Support Gems

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Support gems which has NO EFFECT to the Burning AURA!!
x Minion Dmg
x Fire Penetetration
x Culling Strike
x Chance to Ignite
x Ele Prof
x Chance to Flee /Blind all the other "on hit" gems
x. Iron Will
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At this Point thx to Matt , Dessloc , Suicigobo ,Baalat the MYTH busters :)
Which helped with alot of Testing , Time , Effort and Ideas .
Hope we can fusion at another spectre when the nerf is coming :)


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~ Tentacle Miscreation / MachineGun Girl [Framerate drop factor: Low]
~formerly known as "Titty Bitches"
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1. Raise Spectre
x. MP - Greater/lesser/Chain (Quality helps here faster attack)
x. Minion Damage / Remote Mine
x. Life Leech/Faster attack
x. Added chaos damage / Added lightning damage
x. Faster Projectile / Fire Pen
x. Knockback *thx goes to Budget_player_cadet for suggestion*

Time to get 5-10 mins. Very uncommon in Lunaris Temple lvl 2/
Very common Lunaris Temple 3
Attack: Ranged/Projectile
Behaviour : Very aggresive, Atks First and runs with Zombies, they dont back if they get hit.
Survivability: Like Skeletons
Attack/Cast Speed : Very fast
Damage Output : Very Decent with added chaos dmg - since every spike makes alot chaos
Curses: Flammability , Ele Weaknes,
Def Curses : Enfeeble , Temporal Chains , Projectile Weakness



Description / Info / Personal Feeling
Very Fragile titty bitches , they have decent dmg output and under construction atm

These guys are quite fragile and will need constant potting from you. Their projectiles pierce and hit about 2-3 screens away. GMP'ed one will give great aoe coverage. Kinda looks like an AA-Battery lmao.

| Use elemental weakness + Flammability/Projectile Weakness/Vulnerability(burn dot) |

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Umft1Bi_iL4

*quote mattc3303*

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~ Blackguard Mage [Framerate drop factor: Medium ]
refered in this post as LMage
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NEW * UPDATED 16 nov

___________ Full Dmg Setup
1. Raise Spectre
x Faster Casting
x Minion Damage
x Remote Mine
x Lightning Penetration
x Life Leech


_______________ Full Shock Setup for utility
Personal Setup for Utility / Shock stacks
1. Raise Spectre
x. Life Leech
x. Ele Prof
x Remote Mine
x. Incr Crit Chance
x. Faster Cast
***
Unknown Support Gems in the Utility setup above.
x. Lighting Pen
x. Minion Dmg
x. chain

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Support gems which has NO EFFECT or LESS Effect
x Power charge on Crit

Stats
Time to get: 1-3 mins - and Baracks act 3
Attack/Spell :Arc Spell , lighting
Behaviour : like flame sentis , they run back a little bit when getting attacked ,
Survivability : very weak ,skeletons like
Attack/Cast Speed : medium
Dmage Output: high , they crit frequently
Curses : conductivity
Support Auras : vit /purity
Minion Speed : Medium , Model very small

Description / Info / Personal Feeling

They shock pretty good with 1 Burning Miscreation u have decent map Clearing Speed

OLDINFO
a very small model , they have decent crit chance make good amount of dmg , and cast lighting thorns on ur zombies .
they are very weak i think like titty bitches but with more AI , they ll run back as they get a hit
also reccomended from matt , i checked them in cruel very high ground dmg decent shock chance and has a small model , i ll check them in indoor maps asap i hit them or appreaciate info again :)
they are at a early stage of reasearch so more info will come soon
the new gem section will give the enemys alot of shock charges around a big group.

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~Flame Dogs /Void Breader [Framerate drop factor: xxx]
Spoiler

1. Raise Spectre
x. Multiple Projectiles Greater/lesser
x. Faster Projectile
x. Faster Cast / Added Chaos Damage (Drop only)
x. Minion Damage/remote mine
x. Life Leech


Time to get 1-2 mins.
Attack/spell: Melee / Caster / Fire / Projectile , Incinerate
Behaviour : Aggresive , like ur zombies , if u run back they cancel their cast and come. Like dogs :)
Survivability: Between Zombies/skelis
Attack Speed:very fast
Damage Output: high
Curses
Support Auras : vitality

Description / Info / Personal Feeling
I like the in docks farming every Difficulty . If one dies u can cast another one. They make pretty decent dmg to groups but die as fast as Burning Miscreation.

| Use elemental weakness +lammability/Vulnerability(burn dot)

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~Carrion Queen [Framerate drop factor: Medium]
Spoiler

1. Raise Spectre
2. MP greater or lesser / Chain
3. Life Leech
4. Minion Damage
5. Faster Attacks/Faster Projectiles (Pick one; I really like quality projectiles myself; the range is ridiculous)
6. Fire Penetration (if you're not EE/Flammability ready)/Minion Life/Increased Area of Effect/Concentrated Effect (Any of the above are decent; I'd opt for minion life personally, as I'm specced to subtract over 140 fire res from the nastier mobs and these guys do a LOT of damage)
x. Support Gem Place reserved.

Stats
Time to get: 5-8 mins. Get them from Marketplace; Marketplace doesn't have those stupid snakes on them (and has a higher level). They aren't exactly swarming, but shouldn't be hard to find or kill.
Attack/spell: Big ass fireballs from a very impressive range Ranged/Projectile/Attack
Behaviour : Slow, will attack from almost any range (seriously, these things have HUGE range) and commonly not move until enemy is dead.
Survivability: Best in the game/tied with Flame Sentinels. These things have a massive amount of life. Slap them with life leech and put up Vitality and you might end up losing them to chaos snakes and ridiculously hard-hitting unique bosses; that's pretty much it.
Attack/Cast Speed : Medium-Fast
Damage Output: High. Not as good as incinerators or chaos voidbearers, but still good enough to clear rooms with scary speed.
Curses:
Support Auras : vitality

Description / Info / Personal Feeling
Big bessies are not optimal for tight map crawls like Crypt or Dungeon. What they are optimal for is pretty much everything else. Their damage is off the charts, they live forever with a life leech gem, and their fat abdomen will draw a lot of fire (although you still want to put your more expendable minions in front of them whenever possible).

Support: Vitality Aura (1% of whatever obscene amount they have is a lot of health to get back per second), Flammability, Elemental Weakness, Elemental Equilibrium Lightning/Cold damage.

*quote Budget_player_cadet*

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~ Lightning Banners /Galvanic Ribbons [Framerate drop factor: Low]
Spoiler

1. Raise Spectre
x. Chain
x. Ele Prof (drop only)
x. Faster Casting
x. Minion Damage/Remote Mine
x. Lightning Pen
x. Chaos Damage (Drop only)


Time to get
2-5 mins. Solaris Temple lvl 1/2/3
Attack: Spell/lighting/Arc -with no chain included
Behaviour : Defensive , They run away after they finished their cast.
Survivability: Zombie Like
Attack/Cast Speed: Medium grows to very fast. They need a lil warm up for their spells.
Damage Output: Medium - not tested enough
Curses: Use elemental weakness + Conductivity

Description / Info / Personal Feeling
They cast channeled lightning and combined with faster casting and haste they cast VERY fast. So fast it can virtually stun lock white mobs. They have an energy shield and are quite tanky. They can also spread shock charges. With chain their spell range is quite far hitting things off screen.
*quote mattc3303*

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~Udying Alchemist (chaos thrower) [Framerate drop factor: high ]
Spoiler

Gems
1. Raise Spectre
x. Minion Life
x. GMP
x. Culling Strike
x. Faster Attacks
x. Increased AOE/Faster Projectiles

Stats
Time to get 2-6 mins - Sewers Aqueduct (easy acces both from Barracks WP and Warehouses aqueduct WP)
Attack/Spell : It has 2 attacks. Projectile itself deals damage, and it spreads AoE DoT on hit. We, however, are focused on DoT damage, as it seems to be way superior.
Behaviour : Pretty much like Flame Sentinels. Moreover, you can let them throw their bombs and then just run away, letting DoT do its job.
Survivability: Between Zombies and Skeletons
Attack/Cast Speed : Medium
Damage Output: Well, since you mostly rely on DoT, it hard to compare them to other mobs. They definetely arent as fast as Fire Sentinels / TittyBitches. Still, i had no problem clearing 67-68 maps with them.
Support Auras : vitality

Description / Info / Personal Feeling
This is my absolutely top choice for interiors. They clear them fast, easy, with no clumping behind the walls, and they are more sustainable then burned miscreations. If you can get those off some map - grab them and go clear catacombs.

*quote Zenhayaraxermaar*

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~Ancient construct [Framerate drop factor:low]
Spoiler

1. Raise Spectre
2. Minion Damage
3. Faster Cast
4. x
5. x
6. x


Time to get
2-5 mins. Vaal Pyramide/Waterfall Cave lvl2
Attack/Spell : Chaos, Projectile ,
Behaviour : Ranged -will be tested more
Survivability: Medium
Attack Speed: Medium
Damage Output: Medium
Curses:
Support Auras : vitality

Description / Info / Personal Feeling
The flying little things on the way to vaal. They shoot decent make a good dmg - but shouldnt be ur first choice.

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~ Roling Stones (Cinder Elemental!!) [Framerate drop factor: low ]
Spoiler

Gems
1. Raise Spectre
x. minion dmg
x. minion life
x. multi strike
x. increased burning damage
x. Life Leech ofc :)

Stats
Time to get: 5-8 mins - Act 3 Crematorium only LVL 2 , acces trough sarn slums
Attack/Spell :roll over enemys/auto atk
Behaviour : aggresive like zombies , role sometimes into big mob group
Survivability : zombie like
Attack/Cast Speed : slow , rolling is instant
Dmage Output: ?? more testing needed
Curses : flamability / elemtal weaknes / temporal chain
Support Auras : vit /purity - what the spectre needs most
Minion Speed: Medium

Description / Info / Personal Feeling

suggested inside this forum post . i picked them up and they make decent dmg rolling in the rooms.and yes it IS fun :) . oh and they dont have this anoying "wake up" animation. also info about their rolling would be nice . still testing them so not alot gems atm in them
updated the gems since cinder elementals got tested more ,

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Magic goatman Fire / Lighing [Framerate drop factor: Medium]
Spoiler

1. Raise Spectre
x. minion dmg
x. faster cast
x. Multiple Projectiles Only Fire Goatman
x. x Support Gem
x. x Support Gem

Stats
Time to get: 2-5 mins - act 1 rocky climb/Mountain Ledge Map
Attack/Spell :fireball/molten shell/lighting nova / spark
Behaviour : cast molten shell when he get atacked.
Survivability : between zombies and skelis
Attack/Cast Speed : medium
Dmage Output: medium
Curses : flammability
Support Auras : vitality

Good first spectre if the flame sentinel die in CRUEL. Helps u to get a second spectre for ledge farming if u are to lazy to WP back to solaris. And their molten shell is always a suprise :)
ofc u can get them in normal too but raise spectre is lvl 19 and u can get better ones from act 2 on normal.

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~~under construction~~


------------------------- Map Section ----------------------------
Spoiler

You can find Some Summoner specific information in here.

Reccomended Map Spectres from different People.

-3 Flame Sentinels (both , indoor little slower)
-3 Burning Miscreation (indoor)
-1 Burning Miscreation , 2 Lmage (both)
-3 Carrion Queens (outdoor map)
-3 Undying Alchemists (indoor map)
-3 Void Bearer (both)
-1 Burning Miscreation , 1 Chaos Bear , 1 Lmage
-1 Burning Miscreation , 1 Chaos bear , 1 Frenzy Ape
-3 Titty Bitches

Detailed Map information found here:
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/339977

Spoiler

Dried Lake 66
recommended Spectre : Flame Sentinels , Voidbreader , Carrion Queen
a chaos aura mob at the end , ur sentis will survive this 100%
Its a open Outdoor Map , very easy for every ranged mob , take care if they pull from far away new mobs .

Dunes 66
recommended Spectre : Flame Sentinels , Voidbreader , Carrion Queen
Boss is Kinda Hill OAK he jumps around after 50% , recommend tank zombies
+2helmet
depends on the OAK focus , he will get none to 2 spectre.


Overgrown Ruin 66 indoor map - big doors
recommended Spectre : Flame Sentinels , Voidbreader

Big indoor map . Most u have straight ways and big Rooms - Flame Sentinels with chain fits good here.they mostly fit the doors , queens will get stuck or it feels they are mega slow esp at this map. Small room in the end.
the boss is a nasty lighting spider. Sentis will only survive because they are in the 2nd row. Everything in the first row will get toasted


Tropical Island 66
recommended Spectre : Flame Sentinels , Voidbreader , Carrion Queen
a open jungle map u can use every ranged spectre
*YAAWN* the monkey isnt a problem for zombies / spectres, everyone will survive

Grotto 66
recommended Spectre : Flame Sentinels , Voidbreader
like waterfall cave , minions like to get stuck at the stones in the middle of the way .
will test it further to maybe find smaller "model" minion
depends on the "flamestorm" focus , none to 3 spectre will die

Dungeon LVL 66 indoor map -small doors
Recommended Spectre : Flame Sentinels DO work but they get sometimes stuck , i would recomend smaller spectre models , but didnt find one with more dmg output
some recomended Spectre: Undying alchemists , Flame Alchemists , Burning Miscreation
Brutus Like Boss space: little corridor with a room at the end
Depends on Brutus focus. none to 1 Spectre will die

Crypt Lvl 66 , indoor map - small doors
Reccomended Spectre : Flame Sentinels DO work but they get sometimes stuck
some recomended Spectre: Undying alchemists , Flame Alchemists , Burning Miscreation
endboss should be no prob es summoner medium room before his room comes
Sekeleton Bishop at the end , none spectre will die

Mountain Ledge Lvl 67 :
recommended Spectre : Flame Sentinels , Voidbreader , Carrion Queen
Open outdoor map with a Skele boss, very weak.
Goatman were seen on the map frequently u can take 1 of the mages.
Sekeleton Bishop at the end , none spectre will die
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PRE PATCH INFO - THERE ARE ALWAYS ON A MAP MOBS NOW !!!!
I found some "always on a map mobs" but have to check it more OR - all necros / summoners doing maps can gimme the info i ll collect the info and put it into a good spectre line.


Thx for reading / Commenting and have a nice spectre :)

thx to & Summoner/Witch/Necro Guides
Spoiler

**IF YOU USE INFORMATION FROM THIS GUIDE PLEASE LINK IT FROM UR OWN GUIDE please***
mattc3303 who brought me the idea (and permission) with his Summoner guide found here (see below). i ll mainly use his "spectre tier" and dont make a new one so everbody playing after his guide will feel "at home" :)
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/107541
in this way thx to blacksheepnz cuz he inspired mattc3303 guide. found here
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/114301
HC Necro Build - Alot life/usefull way to minions
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/188249
last but not least - a spectre build WITHOUT minions
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/61726
New Unrightous fire Guide from Surgo
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/478422/page/1

interesting guide which got attention from matt
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/503263/page/1

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/426693/page/1


Special Thx to MattC(guide) , dessloc(bm calculation) , Evilcloud , Malone (zombie), ritualzzz, Maxric , Budget_Player_cadet , Baalat,Suicigobo ,Zenhayaraxermaar, Nithon , Ventiman , Obbes these were all summoner who put DECENT information into this guide , tested stuff alot , and corrected alot of wrong information (also from me)

*patch notes*
Spoiler

*edit 16.11 Format update , added 1.0 spectre*
*edit 21.8 format update*
*edit 20.8 BM Update , new guides *
*edit 18.8 Big Format Update , New Support Gems thx to alot of ppl/guides*
*edit 18.8 Corrected alot of wrong support gems , inform me if u see one*
*edit 18.8 format of map section updated , reccomended spectre/spectre combo updatet*
*edit 9.8 update*
*edit 12.7 supp gem updates*
*edit 6.5 new tier list*
*edit 19.4 added new supp gem , changing format*
*edit 9.4 added new spectre , new supp gems , more info*
*edit 31.3 more spectre info, added zombie/skeletons, added map seciont , changed format*
*edit* 27.3 added new necro build
*edit 26.3 Added Auras,new spectre,new support gems to Tentacle Miscretaion*
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SpectreGuide: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/292391/page/1
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Last edited by HaleBopp on Nov 19, 2013, 2:44:45 PM
Spectre Items

Use +Minion Items(health,dmg,speed) BEFORE U CAST the spectre and take it OFF when the spectre is raised.
The bonus will stay on the spectre!!!!!
There are some Uniques which a pretty good and IMPORTANT.

BOOTS Bones of Ullr +1 Spectre
SWORD 2 Handed Queens decree +1 spectre
WAND 1 handed +1spectre
AMULET +Minion dmg +Minion life
SHIELD +2Minion gem

I ll try to Link every Unique for a good overview for Summoners.
Spoiler





"
mattc3303 wrote:
So the support gems you should focus on getting 20% qual are(in order of importance for each skill):
Spoiler

Zombie:
1. Zombie Gem, +20% move speed and life
2. Melee Splash, +20% AOE radius
3. Faster Attack, +10% attack speed
4. Multi Strike, +10% melee damage

BM:
1. Minion life, +15% additional life
3. Increased AOE, +10 AOE radius
3. Minion res, +6 res

Curse
1. Elemental weakness, -10 additional resist
2. Vulnerability, 10% more physical damage (for zombies)
Spoiler




FARMING SPECTre

piety flame sentinels
lunaris temple 2 and 3 BM

Spectre form if u want to add a new one , or if u think the descrition above isnt enough

Spoiler

~ xxx NAME [Framerate drop factor: xxx ]
Gems
1. Raise Spectre
x. x Support Gem
x. x Support Gem
x. x Support Gem
x. x Support Gem
x. x Support Gem

Stats
Time to get: x-x mins - and location
Attack/Spell :xxx *note Ranged,Attack;Spell,AOE,Projectile,etc.*
Behaviour : xxx how they react on attacks to themself
Survivability : xxxx compared to Zombis/Skeletons/Carrion Queens/Flame Sentinels
Attack/Cast Speed : xxxx slow - medium - fast - very fast (TentacleMistress)
Dmage Output: xxxx *thx to Budget_player_cadet* - compared to GOD TIER
Curses : xxxx
Support Auras : xxx vit /purity - what the spectre needs most
Minion Speed : slow(skeletons) - medium - fast (zombies) - very fast (zombie with minion speed/some snakes )

Description / Info / Personal Feeling

XXXXX

Pros

Cons
________________________________


keep it simple and clean :) Copy - Paste this Form and fill in the XXX.
Everbody is free to add personal feelings - or special description,playstyle, hints with the spectre after the decent informations :)
Witch : HaleJesus LVL 82 Arc Summoner
SpectreGuide: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/292391/page/1
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Last edited by HaleBopp on Aug 23, 2013, 6:52:33 AM
Looks good. You could mine the other posts - Lord of the Dead etc - for more spectre info.
I disagree with a couple of things here.

First and foremost, this really shouldn't be controversial, the must-have specs for voidbearers do not include minion damage; rather your priority should be

1. GMP
2. Added Chaos
3. Minion Damage/Faster Projectiles

Minion damage is awesome, but GMP is absolutely mandatory for good AOE damage output, and a high-level Added Chaos Damage makes their power skyrocket in a completely unreasonable manner. I basically watched Prison Incarcerator melt in a matter of 3 seconds. I was at level 62 at the time. Shit was hilarious. Beyond that, I really like Faster Projectiles - the quality version is awesome, and it turns the flamethrower into a giant monstrosity of an AOE attack.

Second, you really understimate the value of a Life Leech gem. Especially in maps, or longer dungeons without stellar mobs (like, say, Merciless Chamber of Sins - there is nothing worth having in there, it takes forever, and the refresh time is so short that you don't want to be leaving to get more spectres in Cruel A3), you don't want to lose spectres, and survivability has to be a factor. Life Leech won't make Tittybitches or Voidbearers that much less fragile, but it will ensure that glancing blows won't add up without leaving you waiting around for Vitality to do its job.

Speaking of survivability... You really overestimate the utility of tittybitches, incinerators, and burned miscreations - the former two are incredibly fragile, and the burneds are melee mobs and thus not liable to last very long due to their dumb AI - once the mobs stop melting, they start dying. Meanwhile, you underestimate what may be the best mob in the game - the Carrion Queen. Slow? Yeah. Clunky in small spaces? Never, EVER run a Spider's Nest map with these things. However, the live forever. They have the highest base life of almost any mob, do stupid damage with GMP, and vitality+life leech means they can facetank forever. If you plan on running a fairly open map like Strand or Dried Lake, they are without a doubt the best mobs to have if you don't wanna go running back for more, and they murder everything.
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Last edited by Budget_player_cadet on Mar 26, 2013, 2:29:26 PM
It's worth noting that regen totem is extremely useful. Obviously place it when running between groups of mobs and if you're fighting when it skele totem isn't needed.

The best 2 specters to get are flame sentinel and carrion queen, imo, for 3 reasons....easy to get, high dps and decent survivability. I personally prefer the sentinels because they are faster and seem to position much better.


TERROR CRAFT !!!!!!!!!!! **************


Spoiler


MATT C Setup
1- Raise Spectre
2- Increased Burning Damage
3- Minion Life
4- Minion Res
5- Increase AOE
6- Minion Speed

Suicigobo setup
1- Raise spectre
2- Increased burning damage
3- Increased minion life
4- Increased minion and totem elemental resistance
5- Increased Area of effect
I run a 4 link which is surely viable. A 5-link will greatly help tho

Baalat
My setup (5L) is:
BM:
1- RS
2- Increased AOE
3- Multistrike
4- Life Leech
5- Inc burning dmg
6- (minion life waiting for 6L)


HaleBopp / HaleJesus ingame Setup
4 Link atm Blue Blue Red Red
1- RS
2- Incr Burn
3- Minion Life
4- Life Leech
5- multistrike / faster atk/ Minion Resi / Incr Area (ill check minion speed if it helps for LL)
6- xxx unknown terror meelee splash for more LL , Minion Speed for Meelee Atk
I Need to test their Meelee survivability but lacking the right colours and 1 multi strike gem for HC.

DONT FORGET THEY ARE MEELEE ATTACKERS AND HIT LIKE TRUCKS without support gems.
i get around 500 - 800 dmg at merciless with granite on 11000 armor i ll update more info


Time to get 2-5 mins. Very common in Lunaris Temple lvl 2/3
Attack/spell: Melee/Caster/Aoe/Fire
Behaviour : Like Zombies , same "aggro" range . But not the same amount hp.
Survivability: Between Zombie /seklis
Attack/Cast Speed : Medium Melee Attack, Cast is 1 time.
Damage Output :unknown , i can watch the enemy die.
Curses: Flammability , Ele Weaknes, Conductivity , Vuln ,
Def Curses : Enfeeble Temporal Chains
Support Aura: Vitality , Discipline , Purity

Description / Info / Personal Feeling

Since they are tested atm, and frequently mentioned we need to boost their Surv and Dmg.
Good way so far is add lighting dmg "shock stacks = +40% dmg" which can be achieved very easy with Blackguard Mages, they cast ARC. A Reccomended Forum Setup atm is 1 BM with 1 LMage
Use Conductivity to get more Shocks from the LMages. Also Vuln helps their burning dmg and alot of info which is mentioned in the "infos" above.


OLDINFO but still RIGHT info !!!!!!!
They cast unrighteous fire which is different then righteous fire. They do not
deal damage to them selves and it seems to deal a percentage based damage.
With elemental weakness things die VERY fast and another flammability curse
means things die almost instantly. These guys are my NUMERO UNO.
Their damaging aura can go through walls.
| Use elemental weakness + Flammability/Vulnerability(burn dot) |
OLDINFO

Video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQyB9HJZKrA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxsAMkYhUDE

TAG TEAM SPECTRE

Baalat Tag Team setup
Arc mage:
1RS
2- Faster cast
3- Inc crit strike
4- Ele proliferation
5- Life leech
6- (minion life waiting for 6L)


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Unknown Support Gems
x. Iron Will
****
Support gems which has NO EFFECT to the Burning AURA!!
x Minion Dmg
x Fire Penetetration
x Culling Strike
x Chance to Ignite
x Ele Prof
x Chance to Flee /Blind all the other "on hit" gems
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At this Point thx to Matt , Dessloc , Suicigobo ,Baalat the MYTH busters :)
Which helped with alot of Testing , Time , Effort and Ideas .
Hope we can fusion at another spectre when the nerf is coming :)














thx for your response ,

to the voidbreader u can see there is a X so it should be - what ever u want to have not in a specific row . if u like

1.raise spectre
x.gmp
x.added chaos
x.minion damag

then make it this way,

btw i ll setup every gem after the first as X now - i thought about this while writing but didnt thought someone will hang in the "specific combination" thx for this hint.

first gem should always be
1. Raise Spectre

so u need at least a 4 link at ur specific setup- since its a guide , new player should know about the first gem spot .Maybe some people only think about playing a necro .

and i have to thank you again - i nearly forget life leech :) i ll add it in asap.
again since its a guide it should have full information and i appreciate every information or game experience in any stages of the game.

in the last section i wrote about maps and my actual game status - if the post is too long read it again :) *the edited version i hope it will fit everbodys needs and expectations*
im happy for every usefull information about maps

and the guide isnt finished yet - i can post a "form" so everbody can type in his favourite mob.


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0ArsB7KohOhhpdHoyZzU2WVZZNXQxMDg4MVk1b0FGbkE&f=true&noheader=false&gid=1
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Last edited by HaleBopp on Nov 16, 2013, 2:23:55 PM
"
HaleBopp wrote:
thx for your response ,

to the voidbreader u can see there is a X so it should be - what ever u want to have not in a specific row . if u like

1.raise spectre
x.gmp
x.added chaos
x.minion damag

then make it this way,

btw i ll setup every gem after the first as X now - i thought about this while writing but didnt thought someone will hang in the "specific combination" thx for this hint.


I guess, but in most cases there are simply really optimized combinations that you should go for in pretty much every case - at least for the first 2-3 gems. With the voidbearers, the order is clear: Raise Specter -> GMP/LMP -> Added Chaos -> other stuff. It's not usually quite this clear-cut, but sometimes it is.

"
so u need at least a 4 link at ur specific setup-


Honestly, I'd say that as a summoner, a 5L Chest should take precedence over pretty much any other piece of gear, save perhaps for the Bones. It's the difference between a build that's solid and a build that can carry a whole party through high-level maps.

"
in the last section i wrote about maps and my actual game status - if the post is too long read it again :) *the edited version i hope it will fit everbodys needs and expectations*
im happy for every usefull information about maps


I have some stuff to say about maps as well, from my experience being and partying with a high-level necro.

"
and the guide isnt finished yet - i can post a "form" so everbody can type in his favourite mob.


Good idea. Here's mine, in the format above:


Carrion Queen [Framerate drop factor: Medium]
1. Raise Spectre
2. GMP
3. Life Leech
4. Minion Damage
5. Faster Attacks/Faster Projectiles (Pick one; I really like quality projectiles myself; the range is ridiculous)
6. Fire Penetration (if you're not EE/Flammability ready)/Minion Life/Increased Area of Effect/Concentrated Effect (Any of the above are decent; I'd opt for minion life personally, as I'm specced to subtract over 140 fire res from the nastier mobs and these guys do a LOT of damage)

Time to get: 5-8 mins. Get them from Merc Marketplace; Marketplace doesn't have those stupid, stupid, stupid snakes on them (and has a higher level). They aren't exactly swarming, but shouldn't be hard to find or kill.
Attack/spell: Big ass fireballs from a very impressive range
Behaviour : Slow, will attack from almost any range (seriously, these things have HUGE range) and commonly not move until enemy is dead.
Survivability: Best in the game/tied with Flame Sentinels. These things have a massive amount of life. Slap them with life leech and put up Vitality and you might end up losing them to chaos snakes and ridiculously hard-hitting unique bosses; that's pretty much it.
Attack/Cast Speed : Medium-Fast
Damage Output: High. Not as good as incinerators or chaos voidbearers, but still good enough to clear rooms with scary speed.

Big bessies are not optimal for tight map crawls like Crypt or Dungeon. What they are optimal for is pretty much everything else. Their damage is off the charts, they live forever with a life leech gem, and their fat abdomen will draw a lot of fire (although you still want to put your more expendable minions in front of them whenever possible).

Support: Vitality Aura (1% of whatever obscene amount they have is a lot of health to get back per second), Flammability, Elemental Weakness, Elemental Equilibrium Lightning/Cold damage.
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thx for ur input , tested them on a map they make decent dmg. so i confirm this , nice description , but i wouldnt give it to my child to read :)
Bazinga

as i mentioned its for every player state . please dont think always in merciless could be frighten new players .


for the maps part . i have the feeling at the end/unique boss (i wrote it down but didnt do alot maps yet) there are always the same creatures . or sometimes usefull creatures

so far i got

dunes map - merivil chosen 2 times made my map 2 times merivil chosen always at the end , and necros.

dried lake 3 times - always new mobs








Witch : HaleJesus LVL 82 Arc Summoner
SpectreGuide: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/292391/page/1
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HaleBopp wrote:
for the maps part . i have the feeling at the end/unique boss (i wrote it down but didnt do alot maps yet) there are always the same creatures . or sometimes usefull creatures


I'm not convinced that this is the case. I know that some mobs will always spawn on some maps (You'll always get statues on Arcade and some form of water elemental on Reef) but beyond that I have seen very limited repeatable results.
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Last edited by Budget_player_cadet on Mar 27, 2013, 2:31:08 PM
I rly like the guide, plenty of useful information here.

I disagree about your chaos thrower description. Heres how i would do it.


Udying Alchemist (chaos thrower) [Framerate drop factor: medium ]
1. Raise Spectre
2. Minion Life
3. GMP
4. Culling Strike
5. Faster Attacks
6. Increased AOE/Faster Projectiles/Item Rarity/Item Quantity


More detailed support gem info:
First of all, Minion Damage doesnt affect DoT damage (and projectiles dont seem to do much dmg on their own), so we dont include it.
GMP dmg penalty affects only projectile, so you dont have to worry about lower dps.
Culling Strike and Faster Attacks dont rly need explanation
I dont have any good idea for sixth gem. You could add any of those, but you dont rly need them.

Time to get 2-6 mins - Sewers Aqueduct (easy acces both from Barracks WP and Warehouses aqueduct WP)
Attack/Spell : It has 2 attacks. Projectile itself deals damage, and it spreads AoE DoT on hit. We, however, are focused on DoT damage, as it seems to be way superior.
Behaviour : Pretty much like Flame Sentinels. Moreover, you can let them throw their bombs and then just run away, letting DoT do its job.
Survivability: Have no idea about their hp, but they seem be quite sustainable
Attack/Cast Speed : Medium
Damage Output: Well, since you mostly rely on DoT, it hard to compare them to other mobs. They definetely arent as fast as Fire Sentinels / TittyBitches. Still, i had no problem clearing 67-68 maps with them.

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This is my absolutely top choice for interiors. They clear them fast, easy, with no clumping behind the walls, and they are more sustainable then burned miscreations. If you can get those off some map - grab them and go clear catacombs.
Last edited by Zenhayaraxermaar on Mar 31, 2013, 8:06:06 AM

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