[3.5] Occultist Vortex/Cold Snap ES/CI - Deathless and Safe Uber Elder and T16's

May I ask how hard it is to craft the needed item in early league.
But yeah just idea, instead of using controlled destruction using concentrated effect, and possibly taking amplify to help with aoe, and a node for crit spell chance. seem fine in PoB. DPS seems to come out the same. Just a bit smaller vortex. Also take a few spell crit chance nodes.

Or maybe use crit chance support gem with storm brand might proc EO?
Last edited by daimonxp on Mar 5, 2019, 5:21:09 AM
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GraphixArts wrote:
is this build viable without the crafted afix "Trigger blablabla" ? Items with that goes for like 100+ ex (wtf) ands in Standard i cant get that afix so... what can i do? i really wanna play this build.

help me please :(


yes it works!
I was playing it without triggers during whole betrayal league and it works just fine.
Bind "right mouse button" to "Vortext" cast and "Q" & "W" to cast EO skills.

The build is very cheap and powerful!
Buy tabula, as soon as you get "Vortex" gem and late game buy clear 6 link "Vaal Regalia" to craft ES on it for the end game. Don't re-roll for a perfect tier 1, tier 2-3 is enough!
I crafted mine very cheap - spent 30 chaos for a 6 link and then spend around 20 to get 400+ ES on it.
With discipline and Enfeeble I have 7500 ES in game.

Actually, I have enough currency to buy 700+ ES body armor but decided to save it.

Bottom line - manual casting works pretty well.
Last edited by Helmsman527 on Mar 5, 2019, 6:43:50 AM
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Do you use leech? Or not? Because i dont see any leech source
Thanks


Our DoTs cant leech. We use regen/recharge which is more than enough.

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GraphixArts wrote:
is this build viable without the crafted afix "Trigger blablabla" ? Items with that goes for like 100+ ex (wtf) ands in Standard i cant get that afix so... what can i do? i really wanna play this build.

help me please :(


Jun will now be core next patch, you'll get trigger enchant unveiled relatively easy or you could just get someone from betrayal with it unlocked to craft it for you in standard once they completed the migration process. It will be cheap.

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dcamp25 wrote:

I was wondering what your thoughts are on the changes to crit that just came out, now that the minimum is going to be capped at 0%, meaning that with controlled destruction and elemental overload, we're going to get zero crits to proc ele overload.


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daimonxp wrote:
Could run concentrated effect over controlled destruction? I see it keeps it near the same dps.


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Zenos456 wrote:
I've seen some builds drop orbs of storm and link an increased critical strikes onto storm brand, that should proc eo right?


We didn't really procc EO with with vortex anyway, we procced it mostly with storm brand/oos in our weapon trigger while also proccing EE.

Example:
Mainskill - CD... some other supports = 0crit chance, unless you got crit increases somewhere else.
Supportskill... some other gems = still crits for us.

Nothing changed, we still use vortex (or any other skill for that matter), our weapon drops any of our linked spells in it. Those skills crit, we gain EO.


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Ayam1414 wrote:
May I ask how hard it is to craft the needed item in early league.


You don't need any specific items early league. Generic rares works just fine. Lvl as life -> life+mom -> life+mom+eb -> swap to CI once you got good enough es gear. Some lvld as CI as soon as they got vile bastion.

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As I see it, nothing has changed for us so far except that some tree changes might make us want to path slightly different. We still need to see the complete patch notes but I don't think they'll change vortex a lot. There's bigger fish out there that was a huge problem last league, vortex potential is still sort of capped by the cooldown it has and the nature of the skill.
Last edited by Lysithea on Mar 5, 2019, 7:23:08 AM
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We didn't really procc EO with with vortex anyway, we procced it mostly with storm brand/oos in our weapon trigger while also proccing EE.

Example:
Mainskill - CD... some other supports = 0crit chance, unless you got crit increases somewhere else.
Supportskill... some other gems = still crits for us.


Oh so our gems in the weapon themselves, ie. storm brand, oos, etc have crit chance on them. And that what was helping proc EO? sorry if noob but really want to play this next league.
And because of your build I delved 500ish+, kill shaper first time, red elder and didn't get time to face uber elder during Betrayl. =) Though I had to save currency to buy most items, suck at crafting.

Last edited by daimonxp on Mar 5, 2019, 8:00:05 AM
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daimonxp wrote:
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We didn't really procc EO with with vortex anyway, we procced it mostly with storm brand/oos in our weapon trigger while also proccing EE.

Example:
Mainskill - CD... some other supports = 0crit chance, unless you got crit increases somewhere else.
Supportskill... some other gems = still crits for us.


Oh so our gems in the weapon themselves, ie. storm brand, oos, etc have crit chance on them. And that what was helping proc EO? sorry if noob but really want to play this next league.
And because of your build I delved 500ish+, kill shaper first time, red elder and didn't get time to face uber elder during Betrayl. =) Though I had to save currency to buy most items, suck at crafting.



Correct
Only the gem linked to CD goes to 0% crit (assuming you don't have other crit increases). Vortex critting or not doesn't matter for us. OOS/SB was our spells proccing stuff for us, eo/ee.
Last edited by Lysithea on Mar 5, 2019, 8:12:38 AM
I wouldn't be that concerned over EO. Yes, it is a bit of a nerf, if we still want to use Controlled Destruction. But who knows what support gems come along with Synthesis? Maybe we don't even need CD and can proc EO just as easily as before? On top of that consecrated ground is getting some crit tagged onto it, so the standard sulphur flask will help hitting that 1 crit/8 sec.

I'm way more worried about EE! Seems like the change on some abilities from -% ele resistances to "exposure" could hit EE too? Frost Bomb is already confirmed to change that way. Now if it is true that only the highest source of exposure counts, this could change quite a lot. Only my speculation, but seems possible to me.

And don't even get me started on the Enfeeble nerfs...

Either way, I'll still be playing this as a starter next league. Even if everyting gets worse, it should be fine as long as Bonechill stays as it is :)
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Monti_Jones wrote:
I wouldn't be that concerned over EO. Yes, it is a bit of a nerf, if we still want to use Controlled Destruction. But who knows what support gems come along with Synthesis? Maybe we don't even need CD and can proc EO just as easily as before? On top of that consecrated ground is getting some crit tagged onto it, so the standard sulphur flask will help hitting that 1 crit/8 sec.


CD changes doesnt affect us as long as you used a trigger weapon as explained above.

Eagerly awaiting full patchnotes to see the rest of the changes.
Will OP update the build before synthesis hits? I'd like to run this build as my league starter
Hey Idarroc, you write you played some endgame RF builds and this one is kind of similar to RF. What would you say is the tankiness of it vs. a LL RF Guardian with similar ES? I’m hesitating between the two, and I played a Guardian in the past several times.
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