[3.5] CheeQu's CoC Ice Nova Assassin - Up to 7m Shaper DPS + Amazing Clearspeed [In-Depth Guide]

Just making sure? the Thing with cospri's + ice nova combo is it not because of this:

You crit on cyclone > Body armor ice nova triggers and frost bolt triggers from cospris.

2nd time you crit > the body armor ice nova can proc on your body armor and frost bolt! so 1 crit = casts ( ice nova can cast 2 times on frostbolt ) Why do we take aoe on this build you ask? So thath those 2 ice novas hit the same target! So if we have 14% cd = 7.5 spells yes! But after the first crit dose that not mean 15 icenovas can get proced with 7.5 ats?

what I'm trying to say is are you not missing 100% of your damage cuz you are missing the frostbolt cast if you dont use cospris! So while you have 300k avg dmg on your solo ice nova! we that use cospri's only need half thats cus we get 2x ice novas?


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I came here to ask somthing.. Im dual wielding cospri's.. using cyclone... cyclone hit's 2 times right.. so I only need 3.75 ats.. but is there any downside to have 7.5? cuz I cant get it lowered to 3.75? Won't it just cast every other melee crit? So nothing is lost?

I also want help with calculating my avg ice nova hit into actual dps...? Tryd some ppls explanations but it seems so off..

1st why cospri's + frostbolt is better, or am I wrong in my explanation how it procs 2x times

2nd the aps question

3d how to calc my ice nova dps out of avg hit

PS : Making scret coc ice nova build


Deathless Uber Elder :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYeNPt61j40&t=92s
Hi everyone.

I'm trying to decide if I should upgrade my +ES on hit Watcher's Eye 9which I picked up super cheap) to one which also has the flask charge on crit Precision mod as well. I'm thinking it would be nice for tough boss fights like Uber Elder because it will keep the flask charges up between add stages.

Has anyone played with this mod before? Are the extra charges noticeable? I'm thinking it will get anywhere from 3-6 charges per second which should be enough to boost flask time to almost permanent uptime (e.g. for Diamon which uses 20 charges and lasts 6 seconds).

Your thoughts would be appreciated,
Hey guys,

Just reached level 90 and having fun with this build.

Just one question, at what level do you guys recommend for me to spec into might of the meek + unnatural instinct setup?

From what I understand, I should only respec my points when I'm ready to slot in all 3..
Most fun build I've ever played, great survival and damage,very good clear speed, and makes absolutely all map mods.

I tested with cospri and a foil in offhand, but I noticed that I was casting less frostbolts, so I noticed cospri only casts when she crit with her, if crit with offhand she doesn't cast the spells, so I'm using a shield, which by my tests has been the best option.

Bellow is my pastebin, I accept suggestions of what to improve, but I think there is not much to change.

https://pastebin.com/f3wmSX4y
Last edited by billy#9367 on Aug 4, 2019, 2:31:12 PM
Can anyone explain to me why my damage is still so insanely low? [ IversithyCoC on Profile]
Currently Lvl 90 and while I can clearly T14-T15 "decently" I still take roughly ~5 sec on Bosses and/or Rares.
I'm not sure what I'm overlooking.

Edit: Qualitied some of the Gems just yesterday (they were 20/0 before mostly).
While I know that 21/20 is important for any type of spell damage it shouldn't make millions of DPS difference...
Tooltip DPS Icenova is btw. 6,000 in hideout.


Last edited by Iversithy#1509 on Aug 5, 2019, 5:45:37 AM
I've wondered the same. During the last two patches each Frost Bolt I shot use to always explode into an Ice Nova. Now-a-days it seems to shoot out Frost Bolts everywhere without them exploding making most of the damage come from Frost Bolt's instead of Ice Nova.

I started this league with this character; while it worked out great it still didn't do anywhere near the damage it use to do. I have always thought that it was because of the Frost Bolt explosions being nerfed by adding more cooldown time. I don't know of any databases that have the cooldown time to do any updating the guide(not that it is mine anyway, I meant to improve the build).
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Can anyone explain to me why my damage is still so insanely low? [ IversithyCoC on Profile]
Currently Lvl 90 and while I can clearly T14-T15 "decently" I still take roughly ~5 sec on Bosses and/or Rares.
I'm not sure what I'm overlooking.

Edit: Qualitied some of the Gems just yesterday (they were 20/0 before mostly).
While I know that 21/20 is important for any type of spell damage it shouldn't make millions of DPS difference...
Tooltip DPS Icenova is btw. 6,000 in hideout.


I've wondered the same. During the last two patches each Frost Bolt I shot use to always explode into an Ice Nova. Now-a-days it seems to shoot out Frost Bolts everywhere without them exploding making most of the damage come from Frost Bolt's instead of Ice Nova.

I started this league with this character; while it worked out great it still didn't do anywhere near the damage it use to do. I have always thought that it was because of the Frost Bolt explosions being nerfed by adding more cooldown time. I don't know of any databases that have the cooldown time to do any updating the build(not that it is mine anyway, I meant to improve the build).
Last edited by magicturtle91#6665 on Aug 5, 2019, 11:38:16 PM
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magicturtle91 wrote:
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Can anyone explain to me why my damage is still so insanely low? [ IversithyCoC on Profile]
Currently Lvl 90 and while I can clearly T14-T15 "decently" I still take roughly ~5 sec on Bosses and/or Rares.
I'm not sure what I'm overlooking.

Edit: Qualitied some of the Gems just yesterday (they were 20/0 before mostly).
While I know that 21/20 is important for any type of spell damage it shouldn't make millions of DPS difference...
Tooltip DPS Icenova is btw. 6,000 in hideout.


I've wondered the same. During the last two patches each Frost Bolt I shot use to always explode into an Ice Nova. Now-a-days it seems to shoot out Frost Bolts everywhere without them exploding making most of the damage come from Frost Bolt's instead of Ice Nova.

I started this league with this character; while it worked out great it still didn't do anywhere near the damage it use to do. I have always thought that it was because of the Frost Bolt explosions being nerfed by adding more cooldown time. I don't know of any databases that have the cooldown time to do any updating the build(not that it is mine anyway, I meant to improve the build).


So, yesterday I did a Red Elder with it. Since I haven't done one in quite a while I needed a bit to get used to the fight but on my 2nd Attempt (New Map) I did it entirely Deathless. The Damage overall was okay but really nothing special.
The only things that would increase my damage going forward would be:
1. Jewels with 2x +crit multi
2. More dmg on gear (Belt with increased damage etc.)
3. Getting my 17-19/20 gems to 21/20
But these 3 aspects shouldn't make a difference of multiple millions in dps. (Also I need to 6L my chest)
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Iversithy wrote:
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magicturtle91 wrote:
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Can anyone explain to me why my damage is still so insanely low? [ IversithyCoC on Profile]
Currently Lvl 90 and while I can clearly T14-T15 "decently" I still take roughly ~5 sec on Bosses and/or Rares.
I'm not sure what I'm overlooking.

Edit: Qualitied some of the Gems just yesterday (they were 20/0 before mostly).
While I know that 21/20 is important for any type of spell damage it shouldn't make millions of DPS difference...
Tooltip DPS Icenova is btw. 6,000 in hideout.


I've wondered the same. During the last two patches each Frost Bolt I shot use to always explode into an Ice Nova. Now-a-days it seems to shoot out Frost Bolts everywhere without them exploding making most of the damage come from Frost Bolt's instead of Ice Nova.

I started this league with this character; while it worked out great it still didn't do anywhere near the damage it use to do. I have always thought that it was because of the Frost Bolt explosions being nerfed by adding more cooldown time. I don't know of any databases that have the cooldown time to do any updating the build(not that it is mine anyway, I meant to improve the build).


So, yesterday I did a Red Elder with it. Since I haven't done one in quite a while I needed a bit to get used to the fight but on my 2nd Attempt (New Map) I did it entirely Deathless. The Damage overall was okay but really nothing special.
The only things that would increase my damage going forward would be:
1. Jewels with 2x +crit multi
2. More dmg on gear (Belt with increased damage etc.)
3. Getting my 17-19/20 gems to 21/20
But these 3 aspects shouldn't make a difference of multiple millions in dps. (Also I need to 6L my chest)


Your character is a mess,

1. You do not have a 6L, you are missing a lot of crit.
2. Your Crit chance is 38%, with a build that is based on crit it is impossible to do any damage with it
3. Your Flasks are wrong, get the diamong flask enchant of crit, get a Wise Oak.
4. Your jewels are shit, the abyss ones add no extra damage and the other ones have only 1 damage mod?
5. Your ring enchant does nothing, elemental damage with attack skills doesn't add any damage to this build.
6. You need new rings, mark of the shaper is not that expensive

And yeah all those things adds to million DPS.

This is your current damage with flasks active of each ice nova:


this is one of a geared character:


multiply that for each nova you cast, 6APS from cyclone, double the novas for each frostbolt... that a lot of novas.

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