Private league Suggestion

lol....

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

and you should get banned for the insults but i ll just report and hope :D

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

This is 10th time im explaining this...
YOU WILL NOT GET ANY BETTER THINGS TO PRIVATE LEAGUES!
IT MEANS PAY 2 PLAY A BETTER VERSION!
NO MATTER VOIDED OR NOT!
if you complete the content easier that means you can complete achievements-challenges easier. you can reach endgame easier and that is pay 2 play an easier version of poe.
once again this is not happening. stop asking for it.
its a game breaking feature and you are acting like spoiled brats.
poe is already an easy game if u know how to play.

MrsDeath is correct here.
It's kind of like allowing to "mod" the game. Nobody really plays vanilla GTA V anymore, same would happen with PoE and i would imagine GGG doesn't want that

NO, obviously not.

Not happening, and there does not seem anything else to "discuss" here.


Private leagues is about adding new challenges to the game, period.

Ok, let me expand a bit.

People like racing in PoE and GGG knows it. But they also don't plan on spending their time on it in the very near future. Introducing private leagues was a temporary solution to this to allow players to create these races themselves, like what Kammell is doing, where you can have an actual separate league with it's own leaderboard, system messages about who did what first and so on. Also developing this would allow GGG to set up races easier in the future whenever they are ready to do something with it. In the past they said that they don't want to separate the player base into different leagues too much, i believe it was before SSF was implemented, maybe at a different time, no way i can find it now. Why? Maybe balancing, maybe (drum rolls) trading, maybe to advertise MTX through other players, i don't exactly know. As long as PoE is not D3.. sorry, i mean as long as it's not a dead game with no future plans - GGG would want to have control over what content there is and excessive modding is not going to be a thing

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ajo wrote:

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

IT MEANS PAY 2 PLAY A BETTER VERSION!
NO MATTER VOIDED OR NOT!

Just lol. That's exactly what stashtabs does. You have no valid argument against OP as long as tabs exists. Give up.

LOL thats exactly what stashtabs does not.
I have the game itself behind my back as an argument to prove its free 2 play ^^
Stash tabs give you no advantage over other players.
I own 20 tabs and barely use 5 during trade leagues.
Only time i use my 20 is just ssf times using as trash storage.
Anyway you can use forum as private stash tab to sell items so any argument you have here is just useless.

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ajo wrote:

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Nubatack wrote:

MrsDeath is correct here.
It's kind of like allowing to "mod" the game. Nobody really plays vanilla GTA V anymore, same would happen with PoE and i would imagine GGG doesn't want that

LOL She is dead wrong and you too. Also wtf is your logic here? Private leagues is about modding the game. Did you even read any posts before posting this nonsense? Did you read the topic?

You are DEAD wrong again.
Private leagues are about making the game difficult as Fruz stated.
They are not just ''mods''.
+ I told this before but I am not a ''she''. Its just an ingame rpg tag that stick me for years. Dont take it literally.

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Soulistika wrote:

lol....

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

and you should get banned for the insults but i ll just report and hope :D

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

This is 10th time im explaining this...
YOU WILL NOT GET ANY BETTER THINGS TO PRIVATE LEAGUES!
IT MEANS PAY 2 PLAY A BETTER VERSION!
NO MATTER VOIDED OR NOT!
if you complete the content easier that means you can complete achievements-challenges easier. you can reach endgame easier and that is pay 2 play an easier version of poe.
once again this is not happening. stop asking for it.
its a game breaking feature and you are acting like spoiled brats.
poe is already an easy game if u know how to play.

I will just LOL at you just cuz ;)

spoiled brats is a general term not a personal attack.
I did not say he is a spoiled brat I said he is just acting like one.
LOL just for fun.

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ajo wrote:

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Fruz wrote:

Private leagues is about adding new challenges to the game, period.

Private league don't have to be explicitly that (as discussion).

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

You are DEAD wrong again.
Private leagues are about making the game difficult as Fruz stated

Nope. The discussion is, can it be done. Something that you firmly claim is impossible due to the free-to-play label.

Private leagues are there to challenge peope OR give them as equal challenge as current league.
They cant be better OR easier.
They cant have any special mods such as headhunter.
If they did have these special easier to play mods that would be pay to play.

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ajo wrote:

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Fruz wrote:

Private leagues is about adding new challenges to the game, period.

Private league don't have to be explicitly that (as discussion).

What you want it to be does not change what it is.

They are that.


You want GGG to give up on their "ethical line", and I for sure hope that it will never ever happen.
Paying for playing an easier version of the game is blatantly pay to win, how hard is this to understand.

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ajo wrote:

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

Private leagues are there to challenge peope OR give them as equal challenge as current league.
They cant be better OR easier.
They cant have any special mods such as headhunter.
If they did have these special easier to play mods that would be pay to play.

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Fruz wrote:

Paying for playing an easier version of the game is blatantly pay to win, how hard is this to understand.

What do you win? It's just pay-for-convenience right? RIGHT? ;)

Paid leagues are already pay-to-play and what is there to gain when everything is voided? Are you saying that adding new and harder bosses exclusively for paying customers would be totally fine, because it adds difficulty to the game? Are you saying that buying exclusive content is fine as long as it provides a challenge? Sorry but this is also pay-to-win.

You could have a black screen where you would "win" by clicking the left mouse-button. Having to pay for an actual target to click on would make the game "harder" but it's still pay-to-win (or pay-to-play) in the same sense. You are too hung up on the word "win" in the term pay-to-win.

Same as always with these discussions.

P2w is not to be taken literally. Its a term long used in gaming world about games giving some advantage,easier playtrough via money.

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pay-to-win
The sad proof that gaming is in its most dead and soul-less state so far.

Several games nowadays have the option to pay real money to enhance the experience of the player, often frustrating him unless he pays up.

Good ways to milk players of the money they thought they wouldn't spend in the game include: energy bars that reduce the time he can devote to his game, huge timers that need to be reduced for the player to be able to continue his journey, better gear to deal with players that don't want to pay, and, the most common one, the existence of a currency in the game that can't be earned without your credit card.

source: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pay-to-win


about voided and its already paid playtime argument:
nobody cares about loot in std in this game. voided or not does not matter.
currently you can pay to add more challenges to the game which sounds fair. its already pretty hard if you dont know the way around things and you dont have the best gear to play it.
So that is not pay to win. its just a way to self challenge players which they have been asking for a long time.
you cant just give away your precious server space for free i mean come on!

Private leagues were designed in specific way to not upset people who are not able to pay while still providing something what other people can use. They are not creating controversy. You know, there are some people who would pay for ingame currency, ability to start at 90, or way to skip Lab. Theoretically these things wouldn't bring harm to other people, cause majority of players don't care about ladders, economy or other players in general. But in reality this would make game unfair and cause big uproar. Same thing with buffed Private Leagues. Think about other people who are not able to pay, or people who can but don't want to because they feel it is unfair. Western PoE is strongly against paid advantages and there is no point in playing with fire here. Blah blah stashtabs - in other f2p games there would not be even any discussion about stashtabs because how these games don't care about being p2w, meanwhile in PoE we are so sensitive. This overreaction to paid convenience/advantages through all this years perfectly sums up how adding more would be horrible idea.

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

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Give it up, he is still playing dumb and I don't think it will change.


Oh well.

/facepalm
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