Atziri's reflection = ultimate bait and switch

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krixy wrote:

I would love to see an official response in this thread.

you will have better lucky following the general discussion thread on this where bex posted twice already

this is more result of 'people ignore prophecies' than of rarity per se

it could be quite common but if people ignore prophecies (and wait until others waste their time) - it would still be rare and unobtainable

given that most loot filters remove silver coins in their 'strict' versions it is no wonder noone has it (and it is rare on its own right as a prophecy).

double dip rarity in action

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sidtherat wrote:

this is more result of 'people ignore prophecies' than of rarity per se

Multiple people dumped thousands and thousands of coins into prophecies on standard to get this prophecy with little to no luck.

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krixy wrote:

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sidtherat wrote:

this is more result of 'people ignore prophecies' than of rarity per se

Multiple people dumped thousands and thousands of coins into prophecies on standard to get this prophecy with little to no luck.

And 99% of people didn't. If they had, there would be a lot more of the prophecy going around.

Dude. They literally named it Atiziri's Reflection, and you get it from an Atiziri's Mirror. It kind of makes sense that it would be mirror rarity all of its lore points to that.

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MeWhenum wrote:

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suszterpatt wrote:

Let me get this straight.

OP is complaining that 1 week after league launch, a top end unique that can only be acquired by defeating one of the hardest endgame bosses is not so abundant that he can just buy it from someone.

GGG, see what happens when your only method of rewarding players is to keep giving them MOAR STUFFZ patch after patch? They start expecting things like this.

Let me get THIS straight - you genuinely believe that uber azoobi is not farmable within the first week of league? Lol? Sounds like your issue is that you're a baddie, and that's why you feel like this item should be unattainable. I utterly fail to see how me expecting something - a single item, mind you - to cost more than a typical player makes in a whole three month league and being willing and able to pay that cost 1 week into league makes me entitled or something. Either you have a serious case of rose tinted glasses for D2, you are a masochist, or you're trolling. There are 10+ headhunters and mirrors for sale in BSC at most times of day. If you think atziris reflection is so strong that it deserves to be many times rarer than either of those then you genuinely have no idea what you're talking about.

Just wondering, do you think it's healthy for a game on a 13-week update schedule to saturate its market with every single chase unique in 1 week?

I just find it funny like most chase items, people get uber pissed no pun ok well maybe. That they can't get one.

I've played for 2 years never got a HH was it impossible? no i tried numerous times. Not cause I want the item but cause of it's value.

Atziri's reflection is pretty trash really. It only has any value at all to curse builds, that are stacking 3+ curses. It's super niche so 99% of the community isn't going to chase it.

Yes I could magically become ultra rich, but that is assuming the couple thousand niche players have the money to pay me for it anyways.
Unlike Head hunters, mirrors, etc this item only impacts a super small group.

While yes a handful of people have slammed coins for it, it's not like head hunters where the entire player base is going after it. Cause the buyer pool is actually pretty low.

Overall the only thing the item gives of any value is, 20% effectiveness of curses. Which can be huge I give you that, but... It's not build defining, you will only pick up a small amount of actually benefit from the item.

The curse immunity is easily done via just about any flask. Rest of the stats are pretty meh, and depending on your damage method, you can probably get more damage, out of a better item in that slot than you can the curse effectiveness.

It has 2 mods that make it a unique people would want to build around. Curse Immunity (for some specific encounters, and some hipster builds that rely on being cursed), and +15-20% curse effectiveness (so it's a replacement for dying breath in curse builds, and a bis shield for curse/skill hybrid builds.)

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BearCares wrote:

Dude. They literally named it Atiziri's Reflection, and you get it from an Atiziri's Mirror. It kind of makes sense that it would be mirror rarity all of its lore points to that.

Well then they should at least make it as easy as a mirror to get.

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dudiobugtron wrote:

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BearCares wrote:

Dude. They literally named it Atiziri's Reflection, and you get it from an Atiziri's Mirror. It kind of makes sense that it would be mirror rarity all of its lore points to that.

Well then they should at least make it as easy as a mirror to get.

if the odds of a prophecy to proc was as rare as a mirror versus other currency to drop, you would need to have about 200,000 prophecy's to proc on average before this one would

the reality from reports is that 3000 coins can yield one of these, therefore it is much less rare than a mirror