Atziri's reflection = ultimate bait and switch

I rarely get more than a little frustrated at GGG but I need to vent.

I am genuinely disgusted at how rare they made this item and how we had no way of knowing that it effectively wouldn't be in the game. Yes it is powerful, but based on its stats during the teaser post I expected it to be T1 rarity (~15 ex tops). I could deal with that. Now we find out it is literally mirror rarity, and it's too late - my build is fucked. And no, I don't mean it's worse - I mean it is fucked. I meticulously plan out my builds even down to resists and reflection meant I could actually make a viable ES build (need many specific uniques like auxium to make it tanky enough to feel comfortable with crippled leech since I can't reach Vaal Pact). Reflection let me ele weakness cap (effectively 65% all res on a shield) my res and provide defense against vuln, which is now one of the biggest threats to ES.

But, of course, GGG literally decided to troll the fuck out of us and not only make it mirror rarity but string us along and say it is an indexing bug, when in reality it's so rare nobody even sells it across any league. Thus, I wasted several more days waiting for the "bug" to be fixed. I now have a level 86 char I either have to respec or dump. GG. I can resell my gear but given how shit this league is to begin with I may just retire at this point, which would be monumental for me - I have gotten at least 36 challenges every league since I joined in prophecy. /rant

TL;DR - if you plan to make a build enabling item literally multiple times rarer than a mirror then you need to at least be up front about it so that people don't waste time building around it. If only the uber elite get to play with it then tell us. I wasted so much time hoping I would be able to use this item only to find out it is, for all intents and purposes, not in the game.

I learned this when they released the agressive golem gem, looked like great build. Still havent found one...

I was actually pretty disgusted that they released such a powerful item, since it was a must-have for the build I was planning. Now I know it's like 40 billion ex I don't have to worry and can pretend it doesn't exist and feel like my build is fine without it, instead of being annoyed that I had to build another unique in to it.

But I can understand that for people who theory-crafted after it was teased, it must have been a huge letdown.

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Chadwixx wrote:

I learned this when they released the agressive golem gem, looked like great build. Still havent found one...

Try poe.trade

Not the same as in the past, even made an occulist as first char.

People complain about lacking a chaser item (HH). When ggg says something is rare, i think they really mean its rare now.

Feel bad for op, i found a soul mantle and thought i was rich, sheilds drop rate is affecting (havent even found base, used to vendor every 10 maps). Would be a great spec, but much like the golems when they came out, probably op

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dudiobugtron wrote:

I was actually pretty disgusted that they released such a powerful item, since it was a must-have for the build I was planning. Now I know it's like 40 billion ex I don't have to worry and can pretend it doesn't exist and feel like my build is fine without it, instead of being annoyed that I had to build another unique in to it.

But I can understand that for people who theory-crafted after it was teased, it must have been a huge letdown.

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Chadwixx wrote:

I learned this when they released the agressive golem gem, looked like great build. Still havent found one...

Try poe.trade

Oh sure it was (is) powerful no doubt - but no more powerful than like skyforth or something (and I would argue much less so - it has no offensive capabilities besides inc curse effect, unless you count being able to use opals/steels instead of kikazarus for the same effect). T1 items should have an associated rarity/cost, hence why I said ~15ex would be a reasonable price to pay. However, the rarity does not match the power, at all. There are, when I last checked, 11 mirrors for sale in BSC. There are zero reflections or Queen's Sacrifice prophecies. That seems messed up to me. Being able to dupe some insane weapon or something is far more powerful than a 250 ES shield that gives you curse immunity and no offensive stats. Why would they even bother teasing this item if like 10 people in the league get to use it?

two factors to that:

a) if there is an item that 'looks reaaaaaly good' to a lot of people and fit into many builds at the same time it FOR SURE be rare and expensive. mjolnr looked like that, headhunter looked like that and this shield looks exactly like that

b) it is not 'rare'. it is 'inaccessible'. imo it is because it is a prophecy item. players (esp speed clearers etc) are ignoring prophecies completely (and coins, coins too). rarity of the prophecy spawn might be 'fair enough' but as long as players do not even know what shortcut opens their prophecies screen - there wont be many shields floating around.

I like the item.
Lately there has been a decline of chase uniques, which have gotten a single return to spotlight in the form of Bisco's which was an item wrong in its own way.
It may be the effect of being used to different age of PoE and gaming in general, but this is one of the uniques I like here the most:
Overpowered, lore-based, rare. Expensive.
That's what we needed in my opinion.
And if you're complaining because you planned your build down to resists (which is a mistake...) and it's ruined due to one item, well, then, tough luck - I could also plan my builds with mirror tier gear and complain I didn't drop it. Or a Curse on Hit Acuity. And so forth, i hope you get what I mean. That is design, not a mistake

best to not plan builds around items that haven't been released yet.

good builds can do most content without expensive items, great builds have no item requirements.

~sorry, deleted~ (why can't we delete our posts?)

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Miazga wrote:

best to not plan builds around items that haven't been released yet.

good builds can do most content without expensive items, great builds have no item requirements.

We should be able to plan around the item existing. I recognize it would be chase, but it being rarer than a mirror is stupid. You could plan a build around skyforth even though it is ~15ex because you know that, even if not right away, you can 100% obtain it with enough grinding. If only 0-1 reflections show up per few days on trade (I personally have never seen a single one) then how the fuck is that item even in the game?

I'm not stingy, I can shell out for items...but this is going too far. If ES didn't suck so much besides RF then I wouldn't need to stuff so many uniques into my build to make it not feel like shit to play in red maps without shelling out hundreds of ex for GG ES gear or playing standard.