Who is balancing this game? Lmao

I wanna ask him why he's allowing players to cheese end-game bosses with millions of dps.

Some of the most common skills used to 'delete' shaper and other bosses: Barrage, Molten Strike, Blade Flurry, Glacial Cascade and others.

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Because they deserve too if their gear is cable of it? The fuck is the point of an ARPG if they can't do that.

Loot?

Loot is pointless if it doesn't make you fucking do that.

It's done in every ARPG

D1
D2 + LoD
Titan + Exp
Dogshit Doo doo D3
Grimdawn even
etc
etc

All of them do that people wanna feel strong THAT'S THE ENTIRE POINT OF AN ARP FUCKING G to collect loot to make you into a god.

Not a hard concept there.
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Last edited by Coconutdoggy on Oct 10, 2017, 8:30:48 AM
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Because they deserve too if their gear is cable of it? The fuck is the point of an ARPG if they can't do that.

Loot?

Loot is pointless if it doesn't make you fucking do that.



Shouldn't the last boss of the game present a certain challenge regardless of how good your build and gear is? Killing him in a matter of seconds seems rather silly.
Last edited by emulatin on Oct 10, 2017, 8:38:32 AM
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emulatin wrote:
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Because they deserve too if their gear is cable of it? The fuck is the point of an ARPG if they can't do that.

Loot?

Loot is pointless if it doesn't make you fucking do that.



Shouldn't the last boss of the game present a certain challenge regardless of how good your build and gear are? Killing him in a matter of seconds seems rather silly.


Shaper is far from beeing the hardest boss of the game, or the " last ".
I'm pretty sure if you ask kindly GGG they will provide you stats about players four years later that has been able to kill Uber Atziri versus shaper kills.

Hf :)
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Heli0nix wrote:
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emulatin wrote:
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Because they deserve too if their gear is cable of it? The fuck is the point of an ARPG if they can't do that.

Loot?

Loot is pointless if it doesn't make you fucking do that.



Shouldn't the last boss of the game present a certain challenge regardless of how good your build and gear is? Killing him in a matter of seconds seems rather silly.


Shaper is far from beeing the hardest boss of the game, or the " last ".
I'm pretty sure if you ask kindly GGG they will provide you stats about players four years later that has been able to kill Uber Atziri versus shaper kills.



You can do the same to Uber Atziri, it's not just Shaper. The so called 'boss deletion' is just poor balancing imho.
Last edited by emulatin on Oct 10, 2017, 8:42:05 AM
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Heli0nix wrote:

Shaper is far from beeing the hardest boss of the game, or the " last ".
I'm pretty sure if you ask kindly GGG they will provide you stats about players four years later that has been able to kill Uber Atziri versus shaper kills.


Because Uber Atziri is gated by 2 layers of RNG where Shaper is way more accessible.
over 100 builds can kill shaper, but only a hand full of them can beat him with special mods active (e.g. no leech).

Same for other maps and there mechanic. e.g. the lab with there traps can hurt some special builds. or party play with full party cann kill a build.

i think that the problem is, someone join the game from a different game and gerne and think its easy to kill monster x becouse 100x videos of people killed him easy in milisec. that not the goal of the game to pick the same build and redo it. its the way to understand how the game works. to build builds or try out special mechanics with friends that only works in party. sure you can farm things at a special boss. you also can only trade in that game. or you can try to find a guild and chat with people. what you like.

the real balance probleme is that skill x with support skill y kill monter z. but skill a cant do it with support y on monster z. you need to add skill b to get work. thats the shit. you need one more skill e.g. or a special item to do the same. and im not talking about boss monsters.

they destroy old pre 3.0 mechanics and dont fix the new or exist one in 3.0 and both together crash the game logic.

but there are plenty of threads where this is discussed

sorry for my english
Last edited by SiegfriedXX on Oct 10, 2017, 10:15:56 AM
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Because they deserve too if their gear is cable of it? The fuck is the point of an ARPG if they can't do that.

Loot?

Loot is pointless if it doesn't make you fucking do that.

It's done in every ARPG

D1
D2 + LoD
Titan + Exp
Dogshit Doo doo D3
Grimdawn even
etc
etc

All of them do that people wanna feel strong THAT'S THE ENTIRE POINT OF AN ARP FUCKING G to collect loot to make you into a god.

Not a hard concept there.


In this circumstance the loot works, and you delete bosses with any skill but there is an issue called just about any melee build does triple dps if you swap any other skill for BF, molten strike and barrage are the same.

Barrage does 240% base, making it the hardest hitting bow skill already by a massive margin with no drawback, it then has scaling options completely superior to every other skill - its balanced like dogshit as you like to say its got nothing to do with gear if you wearing pajamas and using a quillrain it still hits way harder than the other bow skills.

no idea why OP thinks glacial cascade is that strong though any build that deletes with GC is gonna delete with just about any spell you put in there, OP but not on the scale of barrage/MS/BF
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emulatin wrote:
I wanna ask him why he's allowing players to cheese end-game bosses with millions of dps.

Some of the most common skills used to 'delete' shaper and other bosses: Barrage, Molten Strike, Blade Flurry, Glacial Cascade and others.


Are you new to this genre? The whole point of it is to reach demi god gear level and delete shit.
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emulatin wrote:
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Because they deserve too if their gear is cable of it? The fuck is the point of an ARPG if they can't do that.

Loot?

Loot is pointless if it doesn't make you fucking do that.



Shouldn't the last boss of the game present a certain challenge regardless of how good your build and gear is? Killing him in a matter of seconds seems rather silly.


This is a isometric hack n slash ARPG not E-sports challenge 2017. It's not supposed to be incredibly hard. Everything is hard with shit gear, everything is easy with great gear. Working as intended.
Last edited by DamageIncorporated on Oct 10, 2017, 10:30:45 AM
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Because they deserve too if their gear is cable of it? The fuck is the point of an ARPG if they can't do that.

Loot?

Loot is pointless if it doesn't make you fucking do that.

It's done in every ARPG

D1
D2 + LoD
Titan + Exp
Dogshit Doo doo D3
Grimdawn even
etc
etc

All of them do that people wanna feel strong THAT'S THE ENTIRE POINT OF AN ARP FUCKING G to collect loot to make you into a god.

Not a hard concept there.

this.

butt it shouldn't be op without op gear tbh xd and some builds are.
so balance still isn't there tho.
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