Want to feel even more bad about playing a life build?
" You fail to understand that with a big pool like that of es, regen is much better and much more consistent than any vaal pact build you can come up with. Remove zealots oath now? Buff vaal pact? ey
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" this is simply false. we are talking about regen, not es recharge, right ? getting something like 20% regen isnt trivial at all and requires a lot of investment and at 12k es that will only give you 2.4k per SECOND with ZO and obviously it will take you 5 seconds to regen all of it if, again, you are taking constant damage and recharge never triggers there is simply no comparison between regen and instant leech. none. non-instant leech, however, is basically conditional regen. | |
"Technically, ES is worse than life..."
This is their view. Balance is doomed. Sometimes, just sometimes, you should really consider adapting to the world, instead of demanding that the world adapts to you.
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" ES doesnt need a nerf you break all sorts of ES builds that dont use 900es chests. Like LL, let alone volls, etc. Life just needs to have fatter % to keep up. I'd settlle for you could get 12,500 life which is still half opies 25K ES, by taking 38 life nodes like he takes 38 ES nodes. Assuming T1 life on all gear. Would still be half ES but we have flasks so thats fair. Git R Dun! Last edited by Aim_Deep on Jan 14, 2017, 4:56:11 AM
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" Really they said that? I wont play life again until VP moved by life and life buffed. It's so lopsided it's comical. Git R Dun!
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The problem is not the ES itself. The problem is that all downsides of ES had been removed.
ES was always higher than life, but it had the downside that it only regenerates itself after a (long) time without being hit. This justified a much higher ES pool. But now you can decrease the waiting time before it recharges a lot. You can use leech to fill it up ... So all downsides which justified a higher ES pool compared to life had been removed. THAT had make ES so OP. Last edited by DeltaWing on Jan 14, 2017, 5:55:15 AM
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" Seriously dont destroy leech thats stupid as fuck. Then everyone will go 20k + ES CI regen tanks. This is what GGG doesnt understand we will always find a way to beat their shit. If the game is sooooooo hard that we cant thats when people leave out of frustration. They desperately need to stop the nerf train madness. ProbablyGettingNerfed - L100 Occultist Vinktarded - L100 Pathfinder GoogleDiversityHire - L100 Necromancer 3.13 was the pinnacle of PoE. IVYS+1 Gang 4 Life. Last edited by TheAshmaker on Jan 14, 2017, 9:30:12 AM
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Lol if you fuck with leech I'll just do some dumbass build that does 9999999k DPS as usual.
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How did a "ES has way more buffer than life, thats op!" turn into "VP is op!"?
That has zero relevance. Its literally the opposite. Because if you remove VP now, people would make regen tanks. What are the best regen tanks? CI builds. (because you could go either normal regen, or wicked ward ES recharge) CI has too much buffer period (or life doesnt have enough). Before any other balance considerations, this needs to be adressed. Changing anything else with the current sustain methods will result in exactly the same situation as we have now. (ie. whatever you do, CI is better at it) | |
VP isn't the problem, its ghost reaver.
remove ghost reaver so ES cannot have instant leech. life by all means should have something ES cannot have in order to compensate for the lower values. potions is just not enough because they are not enough to keep you alive now-a-days. right now all life builds depend on vaal pact. without VP no life build could survive t16/shaper, to be honest. |