[2.5] Burning Vortex Build - Double Degen Tank Elementalist - Shaper Viable - HC or SC

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slimq3 wrote:

Maybe shield charge + fortify is not bad idea ? im thinking about the sinergy to go in to spam vortex more faster lw for my part this skill sucks xD...
Shield charge need faster attacks to be more fast?

In the past I have run Flicker Strike + Fortify, this seems to have a decent enough range to help with movement around the map and might be worth trying to see if you like it.

Hey man,

looks like a really fun build, currently leveling it to try it out.

Two questions though:

1. Do you think it would be safer to drop "Beacon of Ruin (since we are basically blowing everything up anyways due to ignite and Pyre ring)" and instead take the reflect node?

2. I might have missed it, but how do you run both Discipline and Grace at the same time, it would be 100% mana reserved and I don't see any reductions to mana reserved in the skill tree with the dual curses?

EDIT: Nevermind the 2nd question, thought Disci would cost 50% mana reserved... :O


Thanks for the build & guide

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firef0kz wrote:

1. Do you think it would be safer to drop "Beacon of Ruin (since we are basically blowing everything up anyways due to ignite and Pyre ring)" and instead take the reflect node?

Hey you could drop beacon of ruin and the build would still function fine, the main reason I didn't go for Paragon of Calamity for the reflect reduction is that it still wont allow me to do reflect maps. The elemental Proliferation is more powerful then it may seem, if I shock and ignite a tanky rare he will shock and burn the mobs around him until he explodes. I would try both and see how you feel without the Prolif and if you still like it the reflect will be a nice bonus to protect against them cases when a friend opens a box with a reflect monster and you have already charged a flameblast. Thanks for opening the discussion about this I might put some information in the Ascendancy section so people can see the pro's and con's a bit better.

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SmokinTumbleWeed wrote:

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firef0kz wrote:

1. Do you think it would be safer to drop "Beacon of Ruin (since we are basically blowing everything up anyways due to ignite and Pyre ring)" and instead take the reflect node?

... if I shock and ignite a tanky rare he will shock and burn the mobs around him until he explodes.

Havent played witch much, didnt know that, thought it would only spread if the mob dies ^_^
Thanks will try it out

Tested and sucks xD fortify is good but shield its kinda slow now..

Ay Just started leveling this build and I was wondering just how bad the reflect on maps is with paragon?

I'm doing a more hybrid variant with about 200% inc energy shield and 160% life so i can switch To CI later but I was thinking it'd be viable with high enough regen since ignites don't reflect.

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OddNawlins26 wrote:

Ay Just started leveling this build and I was wondering just how bad the reflect on maps is with paragon?

Hey the problem is the more monsters you hit the more damage you take so there isn't a typical number for the reflect. If you use the reduced reflect ring aswell as the 50% reduction then it might start to be ok but if you plan to play on HC I would still be very careful with reflect maps.

How viable is this build for high quant red maps?

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firef0kz wrote:

1. Do you think it would be safer to drop "Beacon of Ruin (since we are basically blowing everything up anyways due to ignite and Pyre ring)" and instead take the reflect node?

You can bypass this with
This is a life build too, so going up to 16% life on gloves is pretty solid.

Ok so i am gonna be playing this build. What order of importance would you put on getting certain uniques and gear upgrades for this build.

Edit: never mind just read the gearing section in your build