[Discussion] Why is pornography censored?

i really hate how big brother dictates us on how to live.

if i want my children to play GTA all day long and watch hardcore dp porn, they will.

i tend to respect only those laws i find meaningful <- needless to say, i had a LOT of problems with police in my life

edit - also i think in ideal world ppl are born sterile and the right to reproduce is earned and given by some authority. Because the truly hurtful stuff wont be ever censored, like unhealthy food. With our current system we got buch of 8 year old kids with 90kg+ of weight and typeII diabetes, but thank god they dont watch two ppl having sex on internet, cause thats gross!!
Last edited by species258 on Feb 16, 2013, 5:45:03 PM
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species258 wrote:
if i want my children to play GTA all day long and watch hardcore dp porn, they will.


Exactly.
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I disagree on most points. Most kids grow up somewhat normally. If allowed to grow up normally, a young boy will encounter pornography pretty much on his own, through friends, or through the internet, or through mommy and daddy not hiding their secret tapes not well enough. Seeing pornography at extremely impressionable ages can give a child some very skewed ideas about sex, and it can get even more twisted depending on what "Type" they run into.

I grew up pretty normally, meaning I found the dirty stuff when I was about 13-14. by that time, I already had "The talk" and sex ed from my school. But since I already knew what sex was meant to be between two people, pornography didn't influence my views on it. And since I wasn't more or less restricted from most things sexual ( I usually had to close my eyes during movies where the more erotic scenes happened, but no more than that.

My point is, Kids shouldn't be exposed to more open forms of sex like pornography, before they know what is fantasy and reality/ acceptable between two people, and what is unacceptable/unappealing. Other than that, let kids be kids, and don't try to control their sexuality by shielding them forever and repressing them. Give them some measure of freedom and help them make the right decisions.

I don't know if I got my point across, but I just wanted to give my two cents.
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species258 wrote:
i really hate how big brother dictates us on how to live.

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also i think in ideal world ppl are born sterile and the right to reproduce is earned and given by some authority.
Yeah, hate that big brother.
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FWIW I don't think it was a troll topic and I applaud the OP for creating it and engaging in an intelligent, reasonable manner, as well as all respondents.
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NCPereira wrote:

Then, following your thinking, every minor shouldn't be able to legally watch over 90% of all TV shows, including soap operas, racing shows, series, movies, etc is that what you are saying?

Then you are saying what I said a few posts ago that is:

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NCPereira wrote:
So in here we have 2 cases: We either lock kids in some sort of cage and prevent them from getting access to about 90% of what the world has to offer, or we let them get access to everything.
Not sure how 'following my thinking' leads to that dichotomy, but sure, let's go with no minor is allowed to watch anything ever, because all things are either 100% diabolical and unsuitable for all minors or 100% wholesome.



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species258 wrote:
i really hate how big brother dictates us on how to live.
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edit - also i think in ideal world ppl are born sterile and the right to reproduce is earned and given by some authority.
You hate big brother, but in an ideal world big brother wouldn't allow non-conformant individuals to reproduce. Got it, thanks.

edit: gus pls stop being faster thanks
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Marxis wrote:
I disagree on most points. Most kids grow up somewhat normally. If allowed to grow up normally, a young boy will encounter pornography pretty much on his own, through friends, or through the internet, or through mommy and daddy not hiding their secret tapes not well enough. Seeing pornography at extremely impressionable ages can give a child some very skewed ideas about sex, and it can get even more twisted depending on what "Type" they run into.

I grew up pretty normally, meaning I found the dirty stuff when I was about 13-14. by that time, I already had "The talk" and sex ed from my school. But since I already knew what sex was meant to be between two people, pornography didn't influence my views on it. And since I wasn't more or less restricted from most things sexual ( I usually had to close my eyes during movies where the more erotic scenes happened, but no more than that.

My point is, Kids shouldn't be exposed to more open forms of sex like pornography, before they know what is fantasy and reality/ acceptable between two people, and what is unacceptable/unappealing. Other than that, let kids be kids, and don't try to control their sexuality by shielding them forever and repressing them. Give them some measure of freedom and help them make the right decisions.

I don't know if I got my point across, but I just wanted to give my two cents.


Regarding the second half of your post, Yes, I agree completely that children should be given freedom. I agree completely that we shouldn't control them. And is because of that, that I'm completely against them being deprived from anything, in this case pornography.

Also, as I said before, I'm not saying we should force kids into pornography, I never said that, I'm only saying that if a minor wants it, why shouldn't he have it? I mean, even if 90% of kids don't care about pornography, there is still a 10% that is forced to get access to it illegally.


Now, regarding the first half of your post, I'm gonna answer to you exactly like I answered a couple post ago: If you say children are not mentally able to distinguish right from wrong, good from bad, real from fake, then why are kids LEGALLY ABLE to watch other kind of shows like soap operas, violent shows, racing shows, and so on... Hmm?

I'm gonna quote what I just quoted:

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NCPereira wrote:
So in here we have 2 cases: We either lock kids in some sort of cage and prevent them from getting access to about 90% of what the world has to offer, or we let them get access to everything.
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species258 wrote:
edit - also i think in ideal world ppl are born sterile and the right to reproduce is earned and given by some authority. Because the truly hurtful stuff wont be ever censored, like unhealthy food. With our current system we got buch of 8 year old kids with 90kg+ of weight and typeII diabetes, but thank god they dont watch two ppl having sex on internet, cause thats gross!!


EXACTLY!! On the point!!

Where are our PRIORITIES? I mean, stuff that DOES NOT HARM anyone, is like the Devil in person, while so many other stuff is fine and no one cares about it.
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NCPereira wrote:

How is anyone harmed if a kid sees pornography?

You asked a general question about why should someone be disallowed something and then answered it yourself. Maybe you should have started with this question.

This question, though, seems really odd in light of various facts:
1. Children imitate what they see. Should children participate in sexual activities when they don't understand what they're doing, or what the consequences are, or...?
2. Children are not adults. They do not have the mental capabilities of adults, nor do they have the experiences of adults. They can't handle the truth.
3. Pornography is unrealistic, but it is also often degrading, objectifying, etc.

There are more like this but this should be enough to get started.
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Although I'm 99% sure you are trolling, I'm still going to answer your question.

No, watching violence doesn't harm anyone.

ha ha oh wow

So, like, if you saw someone get shot right in front of you, and you were a little kid, you wouldn't be upset? If you saw daddy performing maxillofacial surgery on mommy with a hammer, you wouldn't get some odd ideas about what appropriate behaviors are in adult relationships? If you saw Clint Eastwood and Lee Van Cleef in a shootout, you would play-lynch your neighbor for being a cattle rustler?


Then, following your thinking, every minor shouldn't be able to legally watch over 90% of all TV shows, including soap operas, racing shows, series, movies, etc is that what you are saying?

Then you are saying what I said a few posts ago that is:

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NCPereira wrote:
So in here we have 2 cases: We either lock kids in some sort of cage and prevent them from getting access to about 90% of what the world has to offer, or we let them get access to everything.



your problem is your thinking like an adult not how a kid thinks and that's why your not getting it. Your able to handle pornography, excessive violence, etc.. because you old enough and experienced enough to know what it is and how to handle it responsibly. Children are not adults though they don't think and process and understand information like we do. Children are still learning and its important that before they are exposed to media like this they understand the difference between fantasy and reality as to not confuse the two. I believe exposing them to this before they are ready with no moderation can be extremely harmful to a child's mental development.


kids are idiots they need supervision to protect them from themselves. They don't know any better and its the parents responsibility to protect them until they do. One day you'll be old enough to understand but you seem to lack the understanding and wisdom to comprehend what we are saying something that will change in time and hopefully before you have kids of your own.
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NCPereira wrote:

EXACTLY!! On the point!!

Where are our PRIORITIES? I mean, stuff that DOES NOT HARM anyone, is like the Devil in person, while so many other stuff is fine and no one cares about it.

I know right? and the best example is marihuana/alcohol. They literally got one commercial on how drugs are bad and you shouldnt be destroying yourself by using em and the NEXT commercial is about beer. So its ok to drink your drug, but dont you dare smoke it!

Maybe its because the beer is taxed and they really cant tax marihuana, naaah goverment wont be that reckless right? riiight?

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You hate big brother, but in an ideal world big brother wouldn't allow non-conformant individuals to reproduce. Got it, thanks.

i said i hate the current state of things where they censor only things that arent really hurtful.
Im really stunned that i have to explain this to you, maybe next time read the whole post instead of posting anything just for the sake of it
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