[2.1 DoubleTrouble] Aims' Blade Vortex : 300+K DPS : >5K life Atziri EZ Cheap: Hybrid option added.

Hi Everyone. Here is my effort at Blade Vortex.
Previous builds
SuperNova - GGG featured Ice nova
SuperTank Incinerate - Uber capable incinerate
FleetFoot - Cheap flame totem

New Atziri run with double dagger and volls protector lvl 18 gem
https://youtu.be/xUY90zlWR6Y 16.5K Conc dps
Wasteland map https://youtu.be/arpE_kfPITQ
More to come including reflects no curse and other high hard map.


Old spec vids w Tabula Rasa and carcass jack
Atziri down painless! < cybils + dagger spec
https://youtu.be/HMY9rRgk_EQ
Quick Gorge Video with lvl 15 gem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A67O9uidas


Highlights
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-Tanky
-5K+ life
-Fortify always up /good mitigation
-20-30%+ chance to Evade (with dex glove, dex helm)
-End Game 46% Spell dodge and 40% Dodge
-can be very Cheap
-Up to triple instant life leech from warlords paw and LL gem
-Looks cool as hell w/two daggers, or One dagger and one paw
-Vaal grace/haste last a ridiculous 16 seconds - you're a fool not to use vaal gems with all this duration we have.
-Abyssal Cry everything explodes!
DPS 150-600K

Cons
Cant do hardest maps in game Core, Uber and Colosseum. We simply do not have EHP to take the hits those boss put out nor DPS to kill them before they start laying us out.

About how DPS works with Blade Vortex from Syclic
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Syclic wrote:
The tooltip DPS on blade vortex is a huge chunk of misinformation. The tooltip DPS it shows assumes that you are hitting once with each blade and constantly casting.

To get your actual DPS you need to multiply your DPS by your Cast Time on the tooltip, then multiply by 2. This is because regardless of any factors each blade deals it's damage twice a second.


So if you have 10k tooltip with 0.15 cast speed you are actually doing 3k dps per blade out and 150k if 50 are out.


My Base Conc DPS w/ lvl 18 gem 16,419 x 2 x .17 cast time x 50 blades = 279,123 DPS




There are two builds one with power charge one without
The with power charge is 25% more DPS but about 200 less life and less evasion and wears a volls protector
The other uses a carcass jack (or tabula rasa/rare if you're broke) Carcass jack spec most tank more aoe.
Gear
Spoiler


Word about gear
-Life everywhere possible
-Tabula Rasa works fine just no power charges so leave them off tree
-Crit rings and ammy - if you cant afford crit implicit look up just resits, and life jewelry cheap
-Double life belt
-Ideally you want evasion gloves and helm to get high evasion.
-Two cheap Divinarius daggers are fine or one and Cybils Paw for super hard content

END game gear



Gem Setup
Spoiler

Main spell


CWDT and Vaal grace or haste


Abyssal Cry


Why Abyssal Cry From Sinalot:
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Specifically, I have found that with my shit ass gear there is one spell gem that you don't use that makes everything simply melt for me when OP blade vortex gives me a moments chance. That gem is abyssal cry.

I currently have it set up on one of my weapons with increased area of effect and blood magic. Apparently, I am not allowed to link my gear in a private message to allow you to see its nastiness alongside the gem set up. But, anyways, with your 6 link voll's...damn. I am thinking nothing could stop it.

In a nutshell, I vortex blades in, pop abyssal cry and refresh blade vortex. Usually everything dies before I even refresh due to the chaos damage increases we both have in our builds. Which is fine, as I am basically refreshing for my next pack encounter.


Movement + fortify


Aura's (if you are not rich skip enlighten but u wont be able to run Herald of Ash unless you take Charisma)



Aura 2 and vaal skellies Then you can have a Golem here which is some DPS.



Warlords Mark Curse alternative w/o Blasphemy and expensive Enlightens and you still want to run HoA
Actually you can run 3 aura now HoA HoI and Hatred. But this has issues.





Leveling progression for Volls Protector
Spoiler

Life and long runs first
crit last.. crit is luxury.

lvl 20ish
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwYABx4I9A5IEZYWvyL0JpUqC0lRVUtd8mHiakNqjGwLbRlwUn_GidOMNpMnlS6X9KLZsNjAVMgU8NX1bw==?accountName=Aim_Deep&characterName=Jumpin_Jack_Slash

Run clarity for mana

Run Blades + fast cast

lvl 40ish
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwYAA-4FQgceCPQOSBEtEZYWvxzcHb4i9CaVKPoqCyycM4c1kj1fPydBh0GWRZ1JUUrITLNSU1NSVUtZbV3yX5hh4mpDaoxsC20ZbqpwUnyDf8aCx4nTjDaTJ5Uul5WX9Jrgotmus7DYtfK3PriTwFTIFM8y0PXYvevu8NX1b_no_go=?accountName=Aim_Deep&characterName=Jumpin_Jack_Slash

start running blasphemy + warlords to curse all mobs for life and mana


Or add one of these and run blood magic in your main spell someplace in a 5-6L



Lvl 60ish
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwYAA-4EswVCBbUHHgj0DkgPqxEtEZYWvxzcHb4i6iL0JIsmlSj6KgssnDBxMtEzhzWSOkI8BT1fPydBh0GWRUdFnUlRSshLeEyzUlNTUlVLWW1d8l-YYeJqQ2qMbAttGW6qcFJ8g3_GgseJ04w2jb-TJ5Uul5WX9Jrgn9-iAKLZrrOw2LXytz64k8BUwGbDOsgUzzLQ9dQj2L3dqOjW6-7vfPDV9W_56P4K?accountName=Aim_Deep&characterName=Jumpin_Jack_Slash

Can maybe afford tabula rasa now and start making 6L



lvl 80ish
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwYAA-4EBwSzBUIFtQceCPQOSA-rES0RlhXtFr8c3B2-Iuoi9CSLJpUo-ioLKjgsnDBxMZ4y0TOHNZI64TwFPV8_J0GHQZZFR0WdSVFKyEt4TLNN41JTU1JUvVVLVcZZbVxAXfJfmGHiakNqjGwLbRluqnBSfIN_xoLHg9uExYnTjDaNv48aj_qTJ5UulouXlZf0muCbtZ_fogCi2aZXrrOw2LXytz64k8BUwGbDOsgUzzLQ9dQj1bnYvd2o6Nbr7u988NXyRfVv-ej-Cv6P?accountName=Aim_Deep&characterName=Jumpin_Jack_Slash

Time to move into this @ ~66


My tree @95 - as witch just change first 5 node - do spell dam at start instead of phys dam
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwYBA-4EBwSzBUIFtQceCPQN0Q5ID6sRLRGWFe0WvxzcHb4gbiLqIvQkiyaVKPoqCyo4LJwwcTGeMtEzhzWSOkI64TwFPV8_J0GHQZZFR0WdSVFKyEt4TLNN41AwUlNTUlS9VUtVxlltXEBd8l-YYeJjQ2SdakNqjGwLbRluqnBSdf18g3_GgseD24RvhMWJ04w2jb-PGo_6kyeVLpaLl5WX9Jrgm7Wf36IAotmmV66zsNi1SLXytz64k8BUwGbDOsgUzzLQ9dQj1ELVudi9217dqOOE6Nbr7uv173zwH_DV8h3yRfVv-ej-Cv6P?accountName=Aim_Deep&characterName=Jumpin_Jack_Slash



Leveling progression for Tabula Rasa Or Carcass Jack
Spoiler
Life and long runs first
crit last.. crit is luxury.

lvl 20ish
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwYAD6sWvySLJpUqTTWSPydKyFFMX7Bh4mqMbqp9W5u1otmsR7DYtfLDOsgUykrYvfVv?accountName=Aim_Deep&characterName=Jumpin_Jack_Slash

Run clarity for mana

Run Blades + fast cast

lvl 40ish
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwYAA-4Pqxa_HNwdviSLJpUo-ipNM4c1kj8nQYdFnUrIS1dRTFNSWW1fmF-wYeJqjG6qb559W4LHmuCbtaLZrEew2LXytz64k8DjwzrIFMpKzzLYvevu8bP1b_no_go=?accountName=Aim_Deep&characterName=Jumpin_Jack_Slash

start running blasphemy + warlords to curse all mobs for life and mana

Or add Cybil's paw and run blood magic in your main spell someplace in a 5-6L




Lvl 60ish
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwYAA-4Esw-rFr8c3B2-JIsmlSj6Kk0y0TOHNZI8BT8nQYdFR0WdSshLV1FMU1JZbV-YX7Bh4mqMbqpvnn1bgsea4Ju1n9-iAKLZrEew2LXytz64k8BmwOPDOsgUykrPMti96-7vfPGz9W_56P4K8kU64aZXMZ5N4_6PVUuMNonTcFIqC13yDkgRlgcelS7w1UlR?accountName=Aim_Deep&characterName=Jumpin_Jack_Slash

Can maybe afford tabula rasa now and start making 6L



lvl 80ish
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwYAA-4EswVCBbUHHg5ID6sRLRGWFe0WvxzcHb4i6iSLJpUo-ioLKk0snDBxMZ4y0TOHNZI6QjrhPAU9Xz8nQYdBlkVHRZ1JUUrIS1dLeEyzTeNRTFJTU1JUvVVLWW1cQF3yX5hfsGHiaoxuqm-ecFJ8g31bgseJ04w2jb-P-pUulouXlZrgm7Wf36IAotmmV6xHrrOw2LXytz64k8BmwOPDOsgUykrPMtD11CPVudi93ajo1uvu73zw1fGz8kX1b_no_gr-jw==?accountName=Aim_Deep&characterName=Jumpin_Jack_Slash

Time to move into a Divinarius Dagger @ ~66


My tree @95 - as witch just change first 5 node - do spell dam at start instead of phys dam
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwYAA-4EBwSzBUIFtQceDkgPqxEtEZYV7Ra_HNwdviLqJIsmlSj6KgsqOCpNLJwwcTGeMtEzhzWSOkI6WDrhPAU9Xz8nQYdBlkVHRZ1JUUrIS1dLeEyzTeNRTFJTU1JUvVVLVcZZbVxAXfJfmF-wYeJknWqMbqpvnnBSdf13B3yDfVuCx4MJg9uEb4TFhxOJ04w2jb-PGo_6lS6Wi5eVl_Sa4Ju1nKSf36IAotmmV6xHrrOw2LVItfK3PriTwGbA48M6yBTKSs8y0PXUI9RC1bnYvd2o6Nbr7uv173zw1fGz8h3yRfVv-ej-Cv6P?accountName=Aim_Deep&characterName=Jumpin_Jack_Slash

Jewels
Spoiler
Useful prefixs
life - always life
increased Critical Strike Multiplier while Dual Wielding
increased Spell Damage while Dual Wielding
cast speed while Dual Wielding

Useful suffexs

increased Critical Strike Chance for Spells
increased Area Damage
cast Speed
increased Global Critical Strike Chance
spell dam
global Critical Strike Multiplier
increased Critical Strike Multiplier for Spells
increased Damage


Bandits
Spoiler
Life
Passive or +16% Physical Damage from Oak
Passive w/o Volls or power charge with volls


How to play
Spoiler
Charge up to 20-30 blades and Whirl Blade into packs for constant fortify buff. Spam main spell while in the pack so you have blades for next pack. You can Hit Abyssal Cry at the same time you're holding down Blade Vortex button and watch mobs explode. It's a sight to see. Move fast and keep your blades up pack to pack.

On bosses. Charge up to at least 40 before encounter and pop you life flask to regain life you just spent. Whirl Blade into him and keep spamming all the way up to 50 until dead


Hybrid Option Best of both worlds awesome AOE mapper with BladeFall and devastating boss killer with Blade Vortex.

Edit gem hit 19 now 20K DPS
Git R Dun!
Last edited by Aim_Deep on Jan 9, 2016, 2:55:07 PM
Last bumped on Aug 28, 2016, 4:18:19 PM
Added a video to show quick clear with only lvl 15 gem

https://youtu.be/NpMSlffwk_s

Will be much faster when i find a Carcass Jack in right color and gem levels
Git R Dun!
Last edited by Aim_Deep on Dec 15, 2015, 12:42:33 AM
So after watching your video I don't think that we can just multiply TT by number of active blades. I think 400k-500k DPS would be killing the boss a little bit faster. It might be time for some good ole spreadsheeting.

Then I'm thinking since this is a phys build, you would benefit greatly from Hatred, Herald of Ash, Atziri's Promise, and Taste of Hate. This basically leads to a tree like Ghudda's lowlife flask build. He gets 260k dps with EK and 4 or 5 uses out of taste of hate before refilling. That might be something to consider.

If you don't go LL, or the goal is budget, you might be able to get cheap survivability by going life+ES hybrid, since you're already in witch+shadow. I honestly don't think 4.8k life is enough anymore.
All my builds /view-thread/1430399

T14 'real' clearspeed challenge /1642265
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MatrixFactor wrote:
So after watching your video I don't think that we can just multiply TT by number of active blades. I think 400k-500k DPS would be killing the boss a little bit faster. It might be time for some good ole spreadsheeting.

Then I'm thinking since this is a phys build, you would benefit greatly from Hatred, Herald of Ash, Atziri's Promise, and Taste of Hate. This basically leads to a tree like Ghudda's lowlife flask build. He gets 260k dps with EK and 4 or 5 uses out of taste of hate before refilling. That might be something to consider.

If you don't go LL, or the goal is budget, you might be able to get cheap survivability by going life+ES hybrid, since you're already in witch+shadow. I honestly don't think 4.8k life is enough anymore.


Hi Matrix- I'm not sure if Herald of Ash can apply the curses...will definitly try tomorrow. I'm running Hatred and will slot promise...no need for movespeed flask since I don't walk anywhere with 10 MS boots and use Whirling Blades all the time.

I have about 5K life and ~700 ES with a carcass which I am trying to buy with right colors but no one was online when I threw this together. total 5700-5800 EHP when done. I tested with my old carcass which I'm not about to change colors. was hard to roll...


The hybrid version I worked on misses out on the duration nodes south of Scion. It's definitely doable though but shield for that fat ES is almost required to get into 8-9K total EHP. Then you have the 35% hit on Discipline so you're not running a DPS aura...basically two major DPS hits.... I let you build the hybrid since you're an expert!:P

Something like this with almost same gear we wear on your Dischargers?
http://cb.poedb.tw/us/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwYBsNii2cgU9W9qjBa_D6ski8M6KjgmlWHiVUuMNonTcFIqC13yKwoRL-OEDdFjQzY9napsjGKsDkgRlgcelS7w1Y_66_VknfId0NBfaklRf8aTJ--I-TfXz0mxvorK07QM6roNfFfJKPqCxx2-M4cD7riTHNyPGuvufIMRLSycBUJBltD1rrNMs5eVUlM9X5f0bRkRUDW5pyvZWxslS67pAqEvMtFFR8BmBLOiAPAfaPI8Be98n9-aO-081aaCm-w4hXtmVCBuUDDbXtAf7-ubtYTFbWy1SOtj1EKEbw==
Git R Dun!
Last edited by Aim_Deep on Dec 15, 2015, 6:06:23 AM
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Aim_Deep wrote:

Hi Matrix- I'm not sure if Herald of Ash can apply the curses...will definitly try tomorrow.

The hybrid version I worked on misses out on the duration nodes south of Scion. It's definitely doable though but shield for that fat ES is almost required to get into 8-9K total EHP. Then you have the 35% hit on Discipline so you're not running a DPS aura...basically two major DPS hits....


HoA can't apply curses, and the overkill doesn't proc with spells. I would only use it in a lowlife build.

In order to get both sets of skill duration as a life+es hybrid it's a bit more efficient to start as scion than anything else.
All my builds /view-thread/1430399

T14 'real' clearspeed challenge /1642265
The tooltip DPS on blade vortex is a huge chunk of misinformation. The tooltip DPS it shows assumes that you are hitting once with each blade and constantly casting.

To get your actual DPS you need to multiply your DPS by your Cast Time on the tooltip, then multiply by 2. This is because regardless of any factors each blade deals it's damage twice a second.


So if you have 10k tooltip with 0.15 cast speed you are actually doing 3k dps per blade out and 150k if 50 are out.
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Syclic wrote:
The tooltip DPS on blade vortex is a huge chunk of misinformation. The tooltip DPS it shows assumes that you are hitting once with each blade and constantly casting.

To get your actual DPS you need to multiply your DPS by your Cast Time on the tooltip, then multiply by 2. This is because regardless of any factors each blade deals it's damage twice a second.


So if you have 10k tooltip with 0.15 cast speed you are actually doing 3k dps per blade out and 150k if 50 are out.


Very interesting. Seems way more damage than my 200K tool tip IceNova on another build. I mean I like to switch to flame surge to kill atziri. I will adjust number with your math though. TY
Git R Dun!
What jewels Do you suggest?
crit
crit multi
area dam
spell dam
life

etc


Updated tree very refined now.

Git R Dun!
Last edited by Aim_Deep on Dec 16, 2015, 12:01:08 AM
Do you have any suggestions in how I would progress through the tree while leveling?

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