Grandmaster Resubmission
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" Letting us know is appreciated, but not required - I'll just work on whatever's submitted if I don't hear otherwise. Depending on how your entry was affected by the Awakening balance changes it may not be broken at all, or it may be easily fixable and nothing that you need to worry about. I should emphasise that this isn't a mandatory resubmission - we do have a lot of tools for balancing or altering grandmasters, even taking into account the mechanical changes of 2.0. " There's no deadline planned, just as there wasn't with the previous submissions. If for whatever reason we do decide a deadline is required, then people will be notified well ahead of time. Gameplay & Level Design
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" Good call on that infernal armour! Guess I'm going to resubmit a char. ps. As at first I was a bit annoyed I had to resubmit. but if GGG can promise this isn't going to happen with every major (tree)overhaul. I'm kinda ok with it now. http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/913599 <--- mirror Thread
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" This whole resubmission process is an optional, extra thing I wanted to do for our Grandmaster supporters, in case they were unhappy with the idea of their Grandmasters being adjusted without their input. Frost wall received a massive damage buff in 2.0, so I could give your Grandmaster a way to bypass the cooldown, thus making her deadlier than ever. I could also go the extra, extra mile and nerf her damage to a pre-2.0 state if that's what you really care about. But ultimately, your grandmaster is still functional, and requires no work on my part to use all her skills as well as she can. If you take such exception to me doing additional work on your behalf, than that's fine - it's your right to reject the rebalance offer as well. I am happy to dedicate the time I would have spent rebalancing her to other Grandmasters. Gameplay & Level Design
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Dan, what you're offering is appreciated. But I feel you seemed rather focused on the singular concern that grandmaster supporters won't get an opportunity to redefine their submitted characters and less on folks who are worried about what this means for grandmasters submitted in the longer term.
GGG's track record for POE suggest that moderate to extensive reinvention of the game mechanics is something to be expected from time to time. This is well and good and keeps the game fresh. However, you would already know that some players are moaning the fact that their existing builds often get shafted with such changes. A portion of these players might still be able to rationalize that such changes are for the better, but by and large, casual and semi casual players cannot ensure they can always min-max the current builds they are playing. While playing non-optimized build might be ok for regular play, grandmaster submission is a single opportunity for supporters to submit their defining character/build - most people, even the more causal grandmaster supporters, would like to put their utmost effort into submitting a build that's not a complete joke into the hall. While you had alluded to the point that you can try to maintain the spirit of supporter submissions following the awakening changes, but your clarifications also suggest that existing submissions with modification on your end may not completely maintain the viability of existing builds. This compels supporters who cares about their submission to want to resubmit something that they know WOULD work in the Awakening but they may not have the time and ability to do so. It's this issue that leaves some of us fustrated and concerned. It will convert your forum titles into decorative square badges that use the space next to your forum posts more economically so that you can show off an unlimited number of them at any one time. - GGG, 2018 (https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3573673)
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Why's everyone so butt-hurt. We've all had like a year to improve our previous Grandmaster submissions (anyone who couldn't think of a way to make improvements in that time obviously is NOT a grandmaster, but is in fact a noob), there is no reason not to be happy about this.
If youre going to whine, whine about something that matters, like new t1 mods, or eternals being removed, or newer better item bases. Oh wait that doesn't affect me either. PS - Thanks GGG for letting us re-optimize our submissions. Ignore the forum babies. IGN - Xukai Mirror Service - /1046531 Last edited by trav_dawg#1277 on Jul 29, 2015, 11:01:48 PM
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" Oh really, you're telling me what I can post now? Lets see how that works out for you lol IGN - Xukai Mirror Service - /1046531 Last edited by trav_dawg#1277 on Jul 29, 2015, 11:06:49 PM
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" I never called you a baby in my post post, you weren't the only person with feeback. But I should point out that babies are usually the ones who cry the most, and you claim to have the most forum posts by a wide margin (that is some incriminating data) Regardless, I was thanking GGG for their work and offerings. I feel that is more productive than another needless/pointless rant. But that is just my opinion. Anyway, I'm off to Vegas shortly, enjoy the forums. IGN - Xukai
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I was going to say Dirk had more posts, but I remembered you had another account.
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" I can definitely see how clarifications like this might give that impression. While many grandmasters are affected by these changes, for the vast majority the effects are minor - such as not being able to automatically trigger Enduring Cry on damage taken. These characters can still trigger Immortal call, and achieve the same effect, with slightly reduced duration, they can also be made to self-cast Enduring Cry, which will probably just make them more defensive. In this case the viability of the build itself is unaffected, it just uses one of its tools slightly differently. Other cases may be that a CI character can no longer sustain Blood Rage. Most of those builds still do plenty of damage without it and your grandmaster doesn't have a clear speed to be perceptibly affected. The frenzy charges gained on kill are also somewhat irrelevant in a PVP setting, outside of fighting summoners. Stats like leech can be provided, auras can have mana reservation reduced to fit - there are many powerful tools available, even if the final numbers aren't identical. Charan's Grandmaster is a case where the changes directly impacted the build, but that puts it in the minority. Gameplay & Level Design
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