PRNG, you fucking bastard!

Guiz I spent 4 Jewelers and 3 fusings just getting a 3l on my helm now I check xyz and find out I could have bought one already with a 3l for 1 fusing.... I am a grown man and a self proclaimed mathematician and I am almost in tears over this.... please someone love me T_T

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johnKeys wrote:

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Xavderion wrote:

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johnKeys wrote:

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You gambled when the odds were highly against you and you expectedly lost. You made a dumb decision you can only blame yourself for. Deal with it.

I am trying to deal with it.
but since you are a proud member of "group (1)", and as such can't be bothered to read anything longer than a couple lines - let me just ask you this:

WHY exactly is using orbs for their intended purpose - especially Fus/Jewel - such a bad decision? does it have to be a bad decision? is it so fucking impossible for this game to have real crafting, like people have been suggesting from before you, me, and most of the people reading this were even playing Path Of Exile?

riddle me this, Xav.
or at least think about it, before spewing the usual bullcrap.

There are situations where using the orbs as intended is a good option.
A thing about trying to get a 5L in a 6S item is that you have the possibility of getting a 6L.
When you have the capability to link many items, gambling on average will be better than crafting.
If you are poor and you have not a strong mind to accept losing all your orbs, just use Vorici.

Remember to assess the situation first, to at least not cry later.

About this suggestion:

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Yerond wrote:

I think an easy way to make things better for crafting, would be to add a system where with each jeweller's/fuse you use on an item, the chances of getting 6s/6l augments, that way using one and not getting the desired result wouldn't be a 100% loss, and you could even sell items with a higher fuse/jewel investments for a higher price even if they aren't fully socketed or linked

The thing is, with this suggestion you have no choice. Just keep putting orbs (even if it ends spending one thousand) until you are done. It's boring, and people would keep complaining about spending a lot more orbs than average (those "I spend 3k/2k fusing in my chests could still happen).

With the actual options, you actually have to make a informed choice to play.

So yes, I firmly believe this system is fine right now (with a orb quantity caveat, but that's arguable).


And about the trading: to my understanding, there are situations where trading will overprice you for a linked item (like with expensive uniques). So no, it's no easy mode.

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johnKeys wrote:

but GGG don't want crafting. they want Casino with a side of just buying what you need. be it from Vorici or poe.trade.

There is also other point of view:
You can easily get what you need in a shop OR if you understand the odds and you are feeling lucky, you can gamble.

I have no idea what's "real crafting" you want. Some abstract "working towards the goal"? You can work towards 5L/6L (or whatever you want) by saving up currency and trading or using Vorici. Increasing probability of getting what you need with each used piece of currency? That would make linking etc much much much much easier and available to more people. Which is exactly what majority wants and what would be awful from design perspective.


And random thought to end my post:
This game is all about trading. Item drops, orb drops, orb usage...they are all balanced around trading. If you don't trade or don't trade efficiently, you are voluntarily gimping yourself and you have to deal with consequences - either quit the game or stop whining on forum.

John John John.

Can I be in both groups? I think you have a legitimate concern and the problem youre having is one we all have, but I still think youre incredibly whiny and make terrible decisions most players stop making a month into the game.

Problem with your legitimate concern is that the devs couldnt give any less of a fuck about your concerns, that much should be obvious by now. The first thing I tell my friends when they start playing? DONT USE A SINGLE ORB, NOT ONE. And that is the best advice you can give any new PoE player, because using orbs is just some hilarious joke GGG included so that could laugh at your misery.

Whenever youre about to use an orb, go buy a scratch ticket.

But making a thread saying youre almost crying because you pissed away an exalted orb (Probably the least valuable orb to a person who does not trade) is absolutely pathetic, and no one will feel sorry for you in your time of need.

Should have just titled this shit Cut my life into pieces.

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go ahead. call me "entitled" but damn it, all of this for almost nothing.
and looking at the trade site auction-house, is just adding insult to injury: a 5-socket Chin Sol sells for 4 Chaos Orbs in there.
so screwed, I'm almost crying right now.

I crie everie tiem. No trading, or trading? Make up your mind, will you? If you chose NOT TO TRADE, that 4c, 5L Chin Sol doesn't exist to you.

You want to go around saying that every item should be craftable with the amount of currency it is sold by players? Please, stop?

BTW, 5L is worth 3ex, on average now. So "ALL THIS ONE EXALTERDED"... naah, it wasn't even much.