so... Anuhart just hit Solo Self Found level 100 on his Stream

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mokaiba wrote:

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johnKeys wrote:

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

awesome man!
you deserve it!

http://www.twitch.tv/theanuhart

age of char?

time played?


cause 100 doesnt really seem like big deal to me (If I really wanted to, I could get to it in another week...).

Spoiler

:)

So much to learn, yet.

Yes, I believe this character was ~lvl 85 at 5 days /played.
Not only does the amount of XP required per level get more, but the amount of XP monsters give you gets less, to a dramatical extent.

For example, this character was doing lvl 77 maps at lvl 75 and getting about 20% of a level from them.
The same character at lvl 93 was getting only ~2% of a level from a lvl 78 map.
At lvl 99 it can take 4-5 78 maps for 1% of the level.

I could chain lvl 73 maps for 12 hours straight and maybe see 3% of the level, if I was lucky.

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mokaiba wrote:

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johnKeys wrote:

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

awesome man!
you deserve it!

http://www.twitch.tv/theanuhart

age of char?

time played?


cause 100 doesnt really seem like big deal to me (If I really wanted to, I could get to it in another week...).

Spoiler

PFFFTAHHAHAHAHAHA
AHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHHHA

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

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TheAnuhart wrote:

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mokaiba wrote:

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johnKeys wrote:

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

awesome man!
you deserve it!

http://www.twitch.tv/theanuhart

age of char?

time played?


cause 100 doesnt really seem like big deal to me (If I really wanted to, I could get to it in another week...).

Spoiler

:)

So much to learn, yet.

Yes, I believe this character was ~lvl 85 at 5 days /played.
Not only does the amount of XP required per level get more, but the amount of XP monsters give you gets less, to a dramatical extent.

For example, this character was doing lvl 77 maps at lvl 75 and getting about 20% of a level from them.
The same character at lvl 93 was getting only ~2% from a lvl 78 map.
At lvl 99 it can take 4-5 78 maps for 1%.

I could chain lvl 73 maps for 12 hours straight and maybe see 3% if I was lucky.

eh, we shall see when I get to the 80s how bad it is, but so far, everything people have said is bad or hard or time consuming has been wrong and extremely easy. hell, I play this game in merciful while working and dont have issues doing live chats or phone calls while running around killing mobs. So far, I have leveled at least once an hour (more in the lower levels)...even up to 70 (yesterday, I went from 66 to 69 in 30 minutes...), this ratio has not slowed down. maybe all you people are doing something wrong?


edit: btw, at least 30 hours of my play time is sitting in town afk because work got really busy...

I like you, :)




















I like him.

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mokaiba wrote:

So far, I have leveled at least once an hour (more in the lower levels)...even up to 70 (yesterday, I went from 66 to 69 in 30 minutes...), this ratio has not slowed down. maybe all you people are doing something wrong?

Saw that you recently started playing... welcome & good to hear that you enjoy the game :)

Just to clear up some confusion:
To go from 69 to 70 you need 30,000,000 xp.

From 99 to 100 you would need 300,000,000xp - 10x as much.
And you have the xp penalty (a whooping 92% in 78 maps). So even if you would chain 78s (which is near impossible) - you would need 100x as long to level from 99 to 100 than it would take to level from 69 to 70.

Now think how long it would take to level from 70 to 99... :D

See http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Experience

Also:

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mokaiba wrote:

So far, I have leveled at least once an hour (more in the lower levels)...even up to 70 (yesterday, I went from 66 to 69 in 30 minutes...), this ratio has not slowed down. maybe all you people are doing something wrong?

Saw that you recently started playing... welcome & good to hear that you enjoy the game :)

Just to clear up some confusion:
To go from 69 to 70 you need 30,000,000 xp.

From 99 to 100 you would need 300,000,000xp - 10x as much.
And you have the xp penalty (a whooping 92% in 78 maps). So even if you would chain 78s (which is near impossible) - you would need 100x as long to level from 99 to 100 than it would take to level from 69 to 70.

Now think how long it would take to level from 70 to 99... :D

See http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Experience

Also:

Spoiler

I went from 69 to 70 today and only played an 30 minutes according to steam.

To do your 90-100 math of 300,000,000

300mil/30mil=10

10 plays of 30 minutes each time to get 300mil = 10/2 = 5 hours + give/take an extra hour or two due to various reasons = 6 to 7 hours.

100 - 70 xp = 3,886,428,281 to go. If I kept up the same pace of 30milxp per 30 minutes -->

129 / 2 = 64 hours + current time played of roughly 122 hours = 186 hours (7 days play time) to get to level 100.

Will I bother? probably not. I want more of a challenge, so Ill be making a hardcore soon.

just leaving this out there, calculated with dethklok some time ago how many maps we'dneed to go from ~94 to 100... its at least 600 78 maps... thats 600 standard exalts not incudling rolling them and not including the possibilty of losing xp form death.

Now you have to understand that getting 78s maps is hard and theres no way you can run palace and courtyard 300-400 times each without going fucking insane so you pretty much HAVE to go down to 77s, weather you want it or not, and youll go down to 77s and 76s without it being your choice at some points too when youll run out of luck and 78s... its a lot harder than you think

Now factor in even if you were chaining the highest maps (78s) you have an XP penalty of 93%.

Meaning monsters are only granting you 7% of their XP. So you can now take your estimate and multiply by 100/7. Which nice and tidily makes your 7 day estimate become 100 days.

Now that's IF you chain the highest maps.

If you were in lvl 75 maps, you are getting only 3% of the XP a monster would give to an equal or close level player.


Take a look at ladders, there's a reason you don't see a linear representation of players and levels.
Or, do you think the majority of people throw in the towel 90% into the grind?

as people mentioned... you aren't allowing for the massive exp penalty that gradually kicks in as you level.

Your exp gain slows right down and it will take multiple lvl78 maps to gain even 1% - at lvl99 you're generally looking at just over 0.2% per 78 you run, so between 4-5 lvl78 maps per 1% of the level you gain.


Fyndel claims that we've pulled 30mil/hour on his latest lvl99, in a 6man group of lvl95+ characters all playing either LL ST or Wander. (you NEED at least 1 Wander in the configuration for the Cull - speeds you up 10+% just by having one)

I never tracked the exp so I don't know if he was right or not. Point is, it gets very, very slow. If you can't rotate endless 78s then your time to level goes up dramatically as well. (we usually do 5 maps each before swapping to next hideout, so 30 78s total in a session with 6 people - helps cut down on hideout switching downtime)




this is a guide by a guy on reddit (I haven't read most of it, but apparently it's not bad) on how to get from start to level 60 in 10-12 hours.

http://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/2k0px5/guide_the_12_hours_to_endgame_guide/

Anybody can follow that guide, new or experienced. Some experienced levelers consider that slow, and would aim for 70+ in that same time frame.



There were (I think) 2 level 100s in the 1month race last time it ran. AFAIK that's the quickest it's been done from fresh start. (unless etups Beyond lvl100 this season was faster, or one of the Rampage guys, dunno)

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TheAnuhart wrote:

Now factor in even if you were chaining the highest maps (78s) you have an XP penalty of 93%.

Meaning monsters are only granting you 7% of their XP. So you can now take your estimate, divide by 100 and multiply by 7.

If you were in lvl 75 maps, you are getting only 3% of the XP a monster would give to an equal or close level player.

what about just ignoring maps and playing act 3 in Merciless?

Sceptres:

lower: Caliga, Imperatrix is 81163
upper: has several:

Compulsor Octavia Sparkfist 71577
Dominus, High Templar 119295
Draconarius Wilhelm Flamebrand 71577
Imperator Stantinus Bitterblade 71577
Paradisae Venenum 74558

= 408,584 + whatever else you kill listed in http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Monster_Experience#Merciless
= 408584 + 934050 = 1,342,634

Over time, you'll become more efficient at it (kill only those specific mobs and any in the way) and do it in 8minutes depending on dps and run speed. The sceptre has a pattern to it and its not hard to find the stairs quickly to move on.

8 minutes a run: 9,398,438 an hour solo. for a party, even with penalties, it will be even higher. This is just running that one area. Typically, you get find a docks merciless party with six players clearing it in five minutes and you get a ton of xp.

I think I know what you all do wrong now. its maps. if the penalty is so bad on them for xp gain why play them? seems like a waste of time.