1.3 Life Based "Shatter Chuck Lite" Barrage - CoC build (updated the tree)

So patch has hit and I allocated my points, i'm not noticing to much of a difference imo, even with sticking with the tree I had before patch hit I still hit the Barrage Crit Cap at 91% accuracy, just with a lower Crit-Multi :/ ...anyone else noticing a large difference? Maybe it's just hard to tell...


Here's my current Tree, I was going stay out of the ranger area and head to templar for the power charge and get some of that easy to reach ele-dmg and whatnot but I decided to leave my build in the state it was "the best I could of course" to see if I still liked it as is!

Last edited by justinmm1988#6504 on Dec 12, 2014, 8:40:45 PM
i think the trick is to take out atkspd nodes and add multi and spell dmg nodes, plz report back guys
[2.0] 5L Uber Viable Incinerate (1.4m Burst): The Zippo: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1211719
I've never tried this build yet, I'm planning to make a build for the new Torment, any comment is appreciated, please? Also, has anyone tried the new nerfed COC yet? Any significant drop of DPS?

Spoiler
https://www.poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgMA37BEq4-mghAsnFWu0PVBlgVC215QMEyzrrOVIC0fDkgRln_GoqPB8yoLcFKJ03DVXfK1SPPqNj1tbLl8jAvssAMeH0EGIxa_1CMFtejW53Q6Qkt43agwcWHiJpWMNlVLKjipbrXybqpKyD8nKk19W6xHUUzKSsM6m7Ui6ncHhxOcpG-eUUeNv9aKfyswfIMJ2wuCHsDjS1fxs9i9NZL-CrFC8xFxhcAaPC3Grrc-Jy8aOJBVGo_22vsJGYqvbEz_aPKiAPAfgpvsOOFz7SBjQxhdPO-t8cBm


I always feel safer with Acro, Ondar and Phase, I have to drop a few life nodes, though.
Last edited by wiwigvn#7566 on Dec 13, 2014, 6:21:46 AM
Build is fine really, tested it out works just as well. Dropped probably a bit in damage but still everything gets 1 shot anyway. ( only tried domi / piety and some maps atm ).

Leech nerf isn't a problem with this build as it didn't move into acuilty and 1% doryani's healing. vaal pact + life leech is completely intact.

Nothing really as to change only the imuum to stun node got relocated but still has the same distance as before from vaal pact so no biggy there.

Build is fine.
hey i need actually tree for this build.
Its my stuff
WTS


coc color

ign//@fofomeme
Hi guys,

Just wanted to share with you the tree i made for this build with my scion !

With that tree i'm able to drop purity of lightning and purity of ice to take haste instead :)

Spoiler
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAAAx4DlgSzBUIGIwixDkgOXA-rES0Rlha_GYoaOBqPH0EmlScvKU8qCyo4LJwtHy2DMtE1kjY9Oyg__EGWRUdFfkrIS1dMs03jUDBTNVVLWlJd8mBDYeJirGNDavpsjG49bqpvnnBScNV3B3gNfIN9dX_Ggh6Cm4MJhX2HE4nTjAuMNpBVlSCXBptdm7WcpJ2qogCio6iaqW6us7VItfK4k7l8u-PAZsDjwfPDOsSiykrN-tD1037YvdsL217hc-OE6GbsOOyw7SDxs_KX8-r22vsJ_o_-ug==


Tell me if you see something i could improve !
Haste is good.
But whats the best aps is?

2.4 or 2.5 after coc nerf?

Anybody knows?
Last edited by takepan#2863 on Dec 17, 2014, 5:48:48 AM
without haste i have 2.4 aps and with haste on i get to 2.7. I don't know is all of that is usefull but my dps is really better with it.
According to the APS discussion, I'm reposting post (not mine) from other thread:
"
sftruze wrote:
(im japanese. im bad at egnlish. my english is sometimes wrong. sorry.)

I did some experiments to measure the interval of barrage projectiles.

-----Experiment-----

In PvP mode, I attacked my another char with Barrage - GMP - CoC - Summon raging spirit.
and i checked the Max number of spirits summoned.

max 8 spirits from 1 barrage = CoC activated 8 times = the interval is more than 0.05s
max 4 spirits from 1 barrage = CoC activated 4 times = the interval is less than 0.05s

I did some experiment with changing the attack speed modifier.


-----Result-----

APS(tooltip) / AS modifier(tooltip) / max srs from 1 barrage

1.6 / +10% / 8 <--with slow attack speed, the 0.05s cooldown is not problem.
1.7 / +15% / 8
...
2.1 / +40% / 8
2.2 / +45% / 8
2.3 / +50% / 8 <--Max speed with 0.05s or more interval
2.3 / +55% / 4 <--the interval is less than 0.05s.
2.4 / +60% / 4
...
3.8 / +150% / 4 <-- this is my Max APS.

*the weapon APS is 1.5 (imbued wand, no AS affix).


-----Summary-----

-the APS which have just 0.05s projectile interval is 2.25~2.325 APS.
-the APS which have just 0.025s projectile interval is maybe 4.5~4.65 APS.

so
~2.25 APS : no less damage
2.325~4.5APS : 35% less damage
4.5APS~ : 50% less damage

-with my last post's math, the DPS of 2.3APS and 3.5APS are same.
2.3APS (+50%) = 4.8spells * 2.3APS =~ 11spells/sec
3.5APS (+130%) = 3.138spells * 3.5 =~ 11spells/sec
my last post
"
sftruze wrote:
(im Japanese. im bad at English . my English is sometimes wrong. sorry)

i did the math about the CoC cooldown change.

math
CoC chance (Lv21 coc gem) = 70%
Chance to hit(accuracy) =~ 86%
0.7*0.86 =~ 0.6

>>each barrage projectile has 60% chance to cast spell.

Barrage fires 8 projectiles in about 50% of attack motion time.
and the real attack speed is slower than the tooltip aps. its about 80% of tooltip aps.

therefore

~1.5 tooltip aps : 0.05 sec or more projectile interval.
1.6~3.1 tooltip aps : 0.05~0.25 sec projectile interval.
3.2~ tooltip aps : 0.25 sec or less projectile interval.

calculation in google sheet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qL_APFVXF5eYoH528V9Rcz_mTHif1VRaY_Rly4Okw5g/pubhtml
i listed the all case of 8 projectiles Cast or NoCast.(all cast to all NoCast. 256 cases.)
and calculated the chance to happen that and number of spells casted in that for each.
then calculated the "average spells cast per barrage".


spells cast per 1 barrage (8 projectile) is
~0.05 sec : 4.8 (no change)
0.05~0.025 sec : 3.138... (=~35% of casts are stopped by the 0.05s cooldown.)
0.025~ sec : 2.433... (=~50% of casts are sotpped by the 0.05s cooldown.)

the CoC gem nerf is equal about
35%less damage for 1.5~3.1 aps.
50%less damage for 3.1~ aps.

To do in 1.3.0

test and find the best tooltip aps. (fastest one that have 0.025s or more interval) (or 0.05s )


Edit:

I did atziri after the patch. i have no mirror gear, but it was easy.
im thinking about,

-2.3 APS with slow attack speed & high crit wand.
-2.3 APS without Blood rage(Blood rage makes frenzy charges, its not good to get just 2.3APS.)
-no change. use current gear. (3.5 or more APS is better than 2.3 APS.)


please tell me your opinion.

thank you for reading.

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