So i did the first Uber atziri as 2h melee[recorded it], my feedback.

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VictorDoom wrote:

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

The problem with Staves is that we have Immortal Call. When you truly break down this game for 2H defenses, immortal call > block. You can have nearly 100% uptime on it which renders block on staves virtually useless, not to mention all the points you have to allocate in inefficient damage nodes for staves makes it even less appealing. Not to mention going crit staff is pretty laughable, you have to try to manage soo many stats the everything becomes mediocre. Way back it was actually kind of common for some builds to take extended duration immortal call for 2H builds, its funny how the game pretty much reverted back to that for 2H Melee.

The other problem though with immortal call being better than block for 2H is that immortal call is EASILY accessible to every single other class, many of them use it because of how good it is. You dont even need extended duration nodes, simply a 20/20 immortal call and increased duration with 4 endurance charges will give greater than 6 seconds of physical immunity (which is generally enough to go pack to pack completely immune to physical damage if you have decent clearing speed). Heck back in the day it was also common to even swap to Saffles in really "oh shit" moments when dealing with spells, which are far more dangerous than physical damage for 2H melee (That was back when saffles was 120% of block chance as spell block).

You can only achieve an small amount of spell block with a stave (It requires sacrificing alot). These are a few reasons why i just cant give a shit about staves, no matter how much they "buff" them. We expected a big stave buff last time and look at we got, it was a pretty big joke.

Its not only staves that need to be buffed, its all 2h weapons, the lack of defense is the same with all of them, you pretty much need IC, but most of the stuff that kills you is obviously spells cause you dont have high resist caps and no spellbock, just some spelldodge if you go really far.

And with staffs again you cant get high block chance unless you use stuff like BoR and anvil, even then youre block chance still wont be capped and you sacrifice a ton of dps, spellblock is stupidly hard to get, since you cant get any block.

I just hope they buff all 2h weapons, they said something about that staff circle, but i hope they add some new nodes and buff other 2h weapons as well..

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StormHunter wrote:

I did normal atziri too, and thats almost impossible, with a 2 handed cyclone build,

NO Crit, NO Legacy Kaoms, NO Mirrored Gear, just pure balls

needed all 6 portals, died 2 times at the trio and the other 4 at atziri herslef because yo uget oneshotted by the flameblast and nearly oneshotted form the stormcalls with 9000 life and 79% resistance, and this was before the nerf to life on the tree and the loss of 4% maximum resistance, now its jsut impossible, you just cant stack auras, mom, block, acrobatics as a two handed melee user, if oyu want them too be viable there must be somehing done

oh and some days ago i got olmecs sanctum as daily, got oneshotted there too with 8500 life, the problem is theres to mcuh stuff that can oneshit you and can only be avoided through block and evasion, why even try to take hit which will oneshot you anyways

Spoiler

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StormHunter wrote:

oneshotted by the flameblast and nearly oneshotted form the stormcalls with 9000 life and 79% resistance

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VictorDoom wrote:

Baiscally 2h builds have nothing to offer at the moment, they dont do as much or higher dps than other builds and are not as tanky or tankier than other builds, the tankyness needs a buff really badly in any case.

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VictorDoom wrote:

dps should be buffed

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Daresso wrote:

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VictorDoom wrote:

Baiscally 2h builds have nothing to offer at the moment, they dont do as much or higher dps than other builds and are not as tanky or tankier than other builds, the tankyness needs a buff really badly in any case.

I agree.

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VictorDoom wrote:

dps should be buffed

I think the dps is fine. It's the survivability with 2handers and melee in general that needs to be addressed.

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VictorDoom wrote:

Its my view that 2h builds are mostly focused on dealing damage, since they sacrifice a shield in favour of a high damage weapon they should theortically do more damage than 1h + shield, for example, logically, they should be able to dish out more dps than a guy wielding a wand or a dagger/sword, but they dont and they also have a lot less survivability than any of those builds, which is why im suggesting that they buff both. 2h is completely lacking in any proper damage mitigation like block or high resists and it also dishes out one of the lowest dps from all build archetypes, which makes no fucking sense.