How do you value items? [NEW PLAYER]

EDIT: LOOKING FOR HC PLAYERS VIEW (mostly but not exclusively)

I played PoE in the past and returned last week.

I always had a special interest for game currency systems and item evaluation but I don't have the experience (never played merciless or maps content) to back up my ideas.

Can you look into this system and give me some feedback?
I have been using it to try to buy items but people laugh at my offers (usually too low) and when I try to sell items using same system people say I ask for too much.

Links and item quality not relevant.
2 alts per:
- 10 of combined life/mana
- 10 of combined Str/Int/Dex
- 10 of combined resists (elemental + 3x chaos resist)

4 alts per:
- 25% defense or attack on top of base
- 25% dmg on top of base
- relevant max mod (mod present at the max tier for the item level)

1 alch per:
+1 skill

3L - additional alch
4th link - additional 50% value
5th link - additional 50% value
6th link - additional 50% value

Example:

+ 18 Int (4 alts)
+ 24 Life (6 alts)
+ 2 Life regen (no value)
+ 13% Resist (4 alts)
3L (1 alch)
TOTAL VALUE = 1 alch + 14 alts = 2 alch + 6 alts


+28 Life (6 alts)
+16% rResist (4 alts)
3L - 1 alch
TOTAL VALUE = 2 Alch + 2 alts


+15 Str (4 alts)
+29 Mana (6 alts)
+19 Res (4 alts)
+ 15 Chaos (10 alts)
3L - 1 alch
4 Alch / 2 Chaos if this would be a 3L
TOTAL VALUE = 6 Alch / 3 Chaos
5L chest with these mods would be 9 alch
6L chest with these mods would be 15 alch

Vendor all of the above.

"Substandard items" - this is what I don't understand.

When you (experienced old player) start a new toon on a different build that you don't have the leveling gear for, what do you do?
Use whatever drops until you get to a specific point like merciless or whatever point/level?
I need to understand what items should I keep for both myself and the market.
I buy leveling items (cheaper than crafting them myself) and I thought others did the same.

Am I wrong?

Search for items with similar stats to yours in poe.xyz.is, make sure to select "buyout only". Then realize that those are the price at which those similar items did not sell.

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Deadpeng wrote:

Yeah. None of these are worth anything. You need to understand that the long time of existence of this game has inflated the values of items too much.

Substandard items values drop more and more as they are gradually replaced by extreme end game gears while the price of useful items increase as old players are becoming more affluent.

It's almost as though new players in standard don't exist

Learn how items are rolled:

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Item_affix

thats how value is created. The higher the tier, the rarer the item, the higher the value.

The items you display aren't even good leveling gears just vendor thrash without value.

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Crossflip wrote:

It's almost as though new players in standard don't exist

Ah... now THAT is the thing.
The first two posters are Standard players.... where item availability is ever growing.
I play hardcore. I JUST play hardcore.
Different ballgame altogether.

Can I get some opinion from a HC player? Someone with 2+ characters on level 70+ please?
Answers from Standard-only players are as worth as players of lets say... Call of Duty. totally unrelated to the HC reality.

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nmc09331 wrote:

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Crossflip wrote:

It's almost as though new players in standard don't exist

Ah... now THAT is the thing.
The first two posters are Standard players.... where item availability is ever growing.
I play hardcore. I JUST play hardcore.
Different ballgame altogether.

Can I get some opinion from a HC player? Someone with 2+ characters on level 70+ please?
Answers from Standard-only players are as worth as players of lets say... Call of Duty. totally unrelated to the HC reality.

Hardcore is a dead league. The main focus of the game is the temporary leagues. And I already gave you a good answer: "Search for items with similar stats to yours in poe.xyz.is, make sure to select "buyout only". Then realize that those are the price at which those similar items did not sell."

There are absolutely too many factors affecting the price for a new player to simply just ignore the actual market situation and still be able to do accurate estimations. It is far better to just look directly at how the market situation is right now.