After act 3?

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indeliblestain wrote:
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wizarrrd wrote:
what are we supposed to do once we've completed it?


After completing Acts 1-3 on Normal, there are then Cruel and Merciless difficulties. These allow you to continue to level your character (up to the 80s area).

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wizarrrd wrote:
Again even harder?


Yes, precisely. This has been the model of loot-based ARPGs since the dawn of time.

There are also end game maps that drop at higher levels, which are pretty rare atm.

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wizarrrd wrote:
Will we need to restart a fresh?


No. When you die in Cruel or Merciless, you suffer minus exp. This mechanic can reduce you down to having near-0 progress for your current level, but you can't delevel.

Unless you're playing hardcore. If you play hardcore and die, your character gets kicked to the default league. You can either carry on playing in default, or you will have to start a new character in hardcore.

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wizarrrd wrote:
Suppose we do get to the end dungeon, what's the point of farming and grinding for really good gear? What benefit will we see from it all.


The benefit you get from better gear is defined on the gear as stats. There are many stats in the game that have a diverse array of effects on your character. Stats make you more powerful.

Better gear also makes your character look bitching.

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wizarrrd wrote:
I understand this game is in BETA and you have an "Indie Team" working on it, however there doesn't seem to be a lot in terms of end content. I appreciate there's alot more to it than that, however there doesn't seem to be much point of it all.


The team is not indie. They, to my knowledge, have no involvement in the racing of crap cars. They are also not, to my knowledge, from India. To make sure I've covered all possible bases here... I do not believe anyone in the team is familiar with Vishnu.

Regarding the "pointlessness" of the game: Path of Exile is as pointless as any other game out there. Why do you get better gear in World of Warcraft? Why do you get better gear in Diablo 3? Or even single player games like Skyrim? To be more powerful, and look better. Eventually you run out of "new" content in all of those games and end up having to cycle old content over and over again until more "new" content is added. Path of Exile is no different; new content will be added, but you'll have to wait for it. Until then, enjoy becoming intimately familiar with the current crop of content.

If you are complaining about that set up, your complaint is less to do with Path of Exile, and more to do with online RPGs in general.

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I know you'll probably be working to get more acts out, but there really needs to be something big added, or else it's going to turn out like diablo 3 with it's rubbish auction house feature.


Diablo 2 sustained a significant population of gamers using the same format for many years. Diablo 3's failure is less to do with the content layout, and more to do with the game being utterly rubbish in all other regards, apart from the combat system (which looked pretty).

Also, I'm finding it hard to see how you got from "not enough content" to "crappy auction house" as a matter of cause and effect. Therefore, I think you may be confused, or just a troll.

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There really doesn't seem to be an end goal or point, not to sound angry or anything, but if someone could explain the goal of this then I'd be most appreciative.

Thanks


The goal is to be more powerful, to have the best gear, to run the best build, to clear the game on each difficulty level, to get to level 100. Until you can say you've achieved those goals, you do not need any more goals. Simply ignoring the goals also does not afford you the right to demand more goals.


Don't be an obtuse asshole, please. "indie" has quite a bit more meaning than it does when talking about music. "indie" gaming means "independent", i.e. does not have a publisher. End. Done. Grinding Gear Games self-publishes, making them independent. Don't be stupid.
I am getting the impression you have never played a hack & slash RPG before. Otherwise most of these questions you wouldn't be asking.
I used to play Diablo 3, then I realized it doesn't have a Shabby Jerkin.
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SolidGod wrote:
Don't be an obtuse asshole, please. "indie" has quite a bit more meaning than it does when talking about music. "indie" gaming means "independent", i.e. does not have a publisher. End. Done. Grinding Gear Games self-publishes, making them independent. Don't be stupid.


Read further, my foolish friend.

Obtuse enough for you?
MOAR PANTS, because every good game needs a pointless meme.
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indeliblestain wrote:
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SolidGod wrote:
Don't be an obtuse asshole, please. "indie" has quite a bit more meaning than it does when talking about music. "indie" gaming means "independent", i.e. does not have a publisher. End. Done. Grinding Gear Games self-publishes, making them independent. Don't be stupid.


Read further, my foolish friend.

Obtuse enough for you?


I read far enough for someone to call you on your bullshit, and then you pretended like it was a joke to cover up your complete ignorance on a subject. Was that far enough?
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SolidGod wrote:
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indeliblestain wrote:
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SolidGod wrote:
Don't be an obtuse asshole, please. "indie" has quite a bit more meaning than it does when talking about music. "indie" gaming means "independent", i.e. does not have a publisher. End. Done. Grinding Gear Games self-publishes, making them independent. Don't be stupid.


Read further, my foolish friend.

Obtuse enough for you?


I read far enough for someone to call you on your bullshit, and then you pretended like it was a joke to cover up your complete ignorance on a subject. Was that far enough?


Search through my post history. I've used the term "indie" before :) Many, many times.

Good show, old boy!

Edit: ib4 the "I can't be bothered"; I can:

June 2012: " I realise that GGG are indie, and have a limited pool of money and time, but when you compare PoE to TL, and big budget games like D3, PoEs animations just don't hold up. "
MOAR PANTS, because every good game needs a pointless meme.
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wizarrrd wrote:
So I've been playing for around 5 or so days now, tried hard mode (the level above default) and done a fair bit of leveling.

Currently on Act 3 at the moment with a friend and we're levels 30 and 33, we're pretty close to completing this final act which is great and all, however what are we supposed to do once we've completed it?

I mean, fair enough we could try it all again with harder monsters etc, but then what? Again even harder?

What happens if we die once we've completed the acts in default difficulty and move onto the harder difficulty? Will we need to restart a fresh?


Suppose we do get to the end dungeon, what's the point of farming and grinding for really good gear? What benefit will we see from it all.

I understand this game is in BETA and you have an "Indie Team" working on it, however there doesn't seem to be a lot in terms of end content. I appreciate there's alot more to it than that, however there doesn't seem to be much point of it all.

We really enjoy the game, the fights are interesting, it's great to play but I think myself and my other friends who are playing all agree that it would become boring very quick if we just have to keep re-doing it all only harder?

I know you'll probably be working to get more acts out, but there really needs to be something big added, or else it's going to turn out like diablo 3 with it's rubbish auction house feature.

There really doesn't seem to be an end goal or point, not to sound angry or anything, but if someone could explain the goal of this then I'd be most appreciative.

Thanks


Welcome to dungeon crawl ARPG games. I'm not being a smartass here, this is what games like these are. You usually go through a few difficulty levels ending with farming gear. The style of game definitly isnt for everyone. I would offer the advise of just playing and having fun till its not fun anymore with the understanding thats what the game is. Beyond the loot grind the other thing this game has is various types of races. Short races that last an hour up to week long leveling races. And a race where its full loot PvP (anyone can invade other peoples instances and kill them).
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indeliblestain wrote:

Search through my post history. I've used the term "indie" before :) Many, many times.

Good show, old boy!


I read this in Sir Hammerlock's voice. I'm not sure who wins, but I'm smiling after an Angry Internet Debate. We're both Winrars.

Double post
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SolidGod wrote:
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indeliblestain wrote:

Search through my post history. I've used the term "indie" before :) Many, many times.

Good show, old boy!


I read this in Sir Hammerlock's voice. I'm not sure who wins, but I'm smiling after an Angry Internet Debate. We're both Winrars.


Props for the BL reference. Sir Hammerlock is awesome.

MOAR PANTS, because every good game needs a pointless meme.
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wizarrrd wrote:
Took my post pretty much the wrong way as u

Millions play WoW because it has so much to offer, same goes for Diablo 2 and tons of other titles. They may have been round for a hell of alot longer, however certain things have distinguished them from many other games and made them stand out.

My question is, what does POE have that many other titles do not? A overly sized skill tree isn't going to draw in the millions if that's what you're thinking.

The possibilities are endless, so if you believe the game is fine as it is, then you must live in a very small world my friend.


Rarely do I respond to an obvious attempt to be inflammatory, however, this just made me laugh.

Maybe you are new to this bit of FUD. Might I suggest you do a bit more homework before trying to create doubt about another game. D2 and PoE are pretty much the same thing...so of D2 has 'so much to offer'...well...you do the math. They play out in the exact same fashion. PoE actually has better character customization, better itemization, updated graphics, and it is still just in beta with much more content to come. All of this is true...so...wouldn't it be blatantly obvious to why PoE is gaining popularity and, if things continue to develop, offers gamers something better?

So if D2 offers so much, my question to you is simple: why can't you answer your own question? Obviously you seem to think D2 still offers things that PoE doesn't...which if you actually did a bit of homework...is kind of silly really considering the relationship of the two games.

Oh...and don't forget PoE is also free...unlike the other two titles you list that offers 'so much' to gamers.

Lastly, who said the game needed millions of players? This is not a game for the masses. It has a target audience. Actually, that is a significant plus in its favor. Unlike the first Blizzard title you mention...this is not a game for the 'average gamer'. Its success will not be measured in how many subscribers it draws but how it fills a need for the target audience. It is a game for those who have in depth experience with ARPGs...and to that end it offers far more than the superficial comparisons that you made.

Thank you and have a nice day.

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