Atziri's Acuity = Pyramid Scheme of PoE

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Aim_Deep wrote:

I'm too scared to try uber. Still die to three baddies before atziri 0-3x even though standard atziri is easy for me. How much harder is the uber set?

Make ST crit build and run it, bcs there no other way to farm that "content", its just spacial money making for ST/crits to get free money from lows

Can't wait to taste the tears of defeat when Atziri's Acuity gets the retro nerf like Crown of eyes Muahahahahha.

Look at the only thing that is going to get nerfed on these gloves.

I think its a good was GGG decided to stop make new stupid legacys nonstop, now its more fair and good for everyone!

Good work GGG!
Love you more now

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Fluffy_Puppies wrote:

It is a pyramid but it is not a pyramid scheme or a scheme at all.

It is a class pyramid. The poor and lesser geared people farm the midnights, the middle class buy the midnights and farm the hopes, the upper class farm uber.

It is profitable for everyone. It is a good system for everyone. This system is a product of the free market and is proof that GGG has a firm grip on how to make a dynamic virtual economy.

It is a terrible system. The poor do most of the work, and by far the most boring, with little chances of gaining much. The middle class is slightly beter, and have better chances of actually profiting for their work(3 hopes on my 130+ runs, so it is considerable). The upper class gains the most, with minimal effort, just 10 mins to run Uber. It is pure exploitation of the "working class".

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Poutsos wrote:

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Fluffy_Puppies wrote:

It is a pyramid but it is not a pyramid scheme or a scheme at all.

It is a class pyramid. The poor and lesser geared people farm the midnights, the middle class buy the midnights and farm the hopes, the upper class farm uber.

It is profitable for everyone. It is a good system for everyone. This system is a product of the free market and is proof that GGG has a firm grip on how to make a dynamic virtual economy.

It is a terrible system. The poor do most of the work, and by far the most boring, with little chances of gaining much. The middle class is slightly beter, and have better chances of actually profiting for their work(3 hopes on my 130+ runs, so it is considerable). The upper class gains the most, with minimal effort, just 10 mins to run Uber. It is pure exploitation of the "working class".

And on the side there are those crazy hippies who don't care for material things and just enjoy the game without thinking about the economy.

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carkasjak wrote:

And on the side there are those crazy hippies who don't care for material things and just enjoy the game without thinking about the economy.

That's great, and it has been the case for most people while starting the game. After you start mapping, you are forced to care about material things, in order to be able to succed in them. The addiction starts building on you. Then you reach the final stage of face rolling 78 maps. But yet you are not satisfied. From that point on you only cherish your gear. You do not really need it. You do not get satisfaction of slaying monsters. You get satisfaction over improving your gear.

Wow, the posts just out of pure spite on people having something.. You guys....

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Poutsos wrote:

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Fluffy_Puppies wrote:

It is a pyramid but it is not a pyramid scheme or a scheme at all.

It is a class pyramid. The poor and lesser geared people farm the midnights, the middle class buy the midnights and farm the hopes, the upper class farm uber.

It is profitable for everyone. It is a good system for everyone. This system is a product of the free market and is proof that GGG has a firm grip on how to make a dynamic virtual economy.

It is a terrible system. The poor do most of the work, and by far the most boring, with little chances of gaining much. The middle class is slightly beter, and have better chances of actually profiting for their work(3 hopes on my 130+ runs, so it is considerable). The upper class gains the most, with minimal effort, just 10 mins to run Uber. It is pure exploitation of the "working class".

Midnights are about 20 chaos and hopes are about 30-35 ex. It takes an average of 40 runs per hope so 800 chaos worth of midnights.

That is 25 ex spent on midnights for a 30-35 ex hope + belts (mace is too rare to get consistently). That is profitable for everyone involved.

The low class could do Atziri themselves if they are so upset about it. Just use the fair wage they make selling midnights to invest in a build capable of killing Atziri.

The same goes for people selling hopes. If you aren't happy selling your consistent 30-35 ex for a chance for gloves with the huge risk of getting shit on by the helm than invest that currency from selling hopes in a low life ST build and kill uber yourself.

Just because you say it isn't fair doesn't make it so. Every layer of the Atziri pyramid is profitable.

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Alea wrote:

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Fluffy_Puppies wrote:

Just because you say it isn't fair doesn't make it so. Every layer of the Atziri pyramid is profitable.

no, it isnt fair, just taking my own example when i farm maps 78 and i buy 3 fragments for 1c, everytime someone selling me a set i feel guilty, lol



those mechanics arent good, and should not be overpromoted with guaranted and exclusive boss loot like atziri.

In the case of buying fragments...I didn't mention that in my original post and it isn't mentioned in the OP. The midnight farmers should be running all those fragments. They aren't out of pure ignorance. So in that specific case the profit is all fucked up...lol

It is crazy to sell lesser fragments 3:1 chaos. There is more than 1 chaos in alterations alone in those 3 corrupted zones, and not even full clearing just clear the boss and his blue pack.

even if this wasn't the case those fragments function as 5 chisels so a chaos for 3 is daylight robbery.

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terrex wrote:

Wow, the posts just out of pure spite on people having something.. You guys....

Pff

The reason i posted that was because i myself had fallen in that "gear obsesed' trap. I am happy i have stopped playing. I still consider PoE a great game BTW. I just see no point in playing it anymore, after some point.